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:The basic WikiIndex problem is low participation. That's fine for a wiki that can gradually and slowly build content or maintain it, for design purpose. However, when you have a wiki owner who doesn't take responsibility for basic decisions, but wants the community to do it, then there is chaos. Chaos can be great, but it tends to be quite inefficient except under circumstances I don't see operating here. The problem with the lack of standards is that someone can come here an build content that they think is peachy-keen, and then it gets blanked or blasted or deleted. That is not fun. Nobody likes to see their work deleted. (Wikipedia really missed the boat here, sowing the seeds for continued disruption. Plenty of alternatives existed, but the community became extremely conservative almost immediately. They could have created a *more reliable* project *and protected their users. But Wikipedia really never cared about the users, it was the *content*, man! Yet the only standard for neutral point of view is genuine consensus, Wikipedians imagined that NPOV was objective, and, of course, *they had it.* | :The basic WikiIndex problem is low participation. That's fine for a wiki that can gradually and slowly build content or maintain it, for design purpose. However, when you have a wiki owner who doesn't take responsibility for basic decisions, but wants the community to do it, then there is chaos. Chaos can be great, but it tends to be quite inefficient except under circumstances I don't see operating here. The problem with the lack of standards is that someone can come here an build content that they think is peachy-keen, and then it gets blanked or blasted or deleted. That is not fun. Nobody likes to see their work deleted. (Wikipedia really missed the boat here, sowing the seeds for continued disruption. Plenty of alternatives existed, but the community became extremely conservative almost immediately. They could have created a *more reliable* project *and protected their users. But Wikipedia really never cared about the users, it was the *content*, man! Yet the only standard for neutral point of view is genuine consensus, Wikipedians imagined that NPOV was objective, and, of course, *they had it.* | ||
:I see WikiIndex as having, and for a long time, a narrow purpose, with most users believing they understood it, and working on it here and there. It was mostly a low-conflict wiki, because of that narrowness of purpose. It was, I think, *effectively clear,* the policy. Except, of course, it wasn't formal, documented, and, when problems arose, it was largely unenforced. Wikis die if they don't clear this passage. | :I see WikiIndex as having, and for a long time, a narrow purpose, with most users believing they understood it, and working on it here and there. It was mostly a low-conflict wiki, because of that narrowness of purpose. It was, I think, *effectively clear,* the policy. Except, of course, it wasn't formal, documented, and, when problems arose, it was largely unenforced. Wikis die if they don't clear this passage. [[User:Abd|Abd]] | ||
::I'm not sure this is the first time these sorts of issues have arisen here. I don't think anyone has written a very thorough history of WikiIndex; there's no WikiIndexWiki to document the conflicts, and a lot of conflicts are settled in places other than the community portal. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:42, 25 December 2014 (UTC) | |||