Talk:Brongersma: Difference between revisions

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::When considering offensiveness, the legal definition of child pornography can be irrelevant. Legally, there is the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test Miller test]. By that test, the Commons images are legal. As Leucosticte knows, the issues are far more complex than most realize. There is a second issue besides the Miller test, which is realism. The drawings are clearly not photographs or produced in imitation of photographs. They are "realistic," but are clearly drawings, they are not "photorealistic."
::When considering offensiveness, the legal definition of child pornography can be irrelevant. Legally, there is the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test Miller test]. By that test, the Commons images are legal. As Leucosticte knows, the issues are far more complex than most realize. There is a second issue besides the Miller test, which is realism. The drawings are clearly not photographs or produced in imitation of photographs. They are "realistic," but are clearly drawings, they are not "photorealistic."
::And all this is irrelevant to Brongersma. Leucosticte knows better, much better. Hence he is trolling. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 21:50, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
::And all this is irrelevant to Brongersma. Leucosticte knows better, much better. Hence he is trolling. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 21:50, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
:::The ''Miller'' test doesn't apply to child pornography. See {{w|New_York_v._Ferber#The_Court.27s_Decision}}. There are other types of child pornography besides the kind I mentioned; more broadly it [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2256 involves] "a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct" which can involve "lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person". [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 22:58, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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