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: ''hmm, I am pretty 'wiki savvy' and I just rolled back your edit, yet I see it in the history of the page...  clearly not understanding this function as you are.  Help? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: ''hmm, I am pretty 'wiki savvy' and I just rolled back your edit, yet I see it in the history of the page...  clearly not understanding this function as you are.  Help? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::Now I'm confused . . . rollback here on WikiIndex seems to work differently compared to [[English Wikipedia]].  Further digging, and it looks like WP used an [[wp:Wikipedia:Oversight|extension]] called [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight Oversight] . . . but this Oversite extension was subsequently included in MediaWiki version 1.16.0.  WikiIndex currently has v.1.17.0, so ''should'' include this . . . it looks like its plain english terminology is called 'HideRevision' . . . however, looking at the specific [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_17_0/phase3/?pathrev=91249 code] of MW software installed here on WikiIndex, it looks different to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/?pathrev=109351 Wikipedia software].  Maybe Wikipedia uses specific and customised Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) software, whereas all other non-WMF wikis use a different software compilation, and maybe not all extensions are available to non-WMF users. :/  Anyway, as and Admin, do you see 'HideRevision' anywhere?  Best, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:43, 29 January 2012 (PST)
::Now I'm confused . . . rollback here on WikiIndex seems to work differently compared to [[English Wikipedia]].  Further digging, and it looks like WP used an [[wp:Wikipedia:Oversight|extension]] called [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight Oversight] . . . but this Oversite extension was subsequently included in MediaWiki version 1.16.0.  WikiIndex currently has v.1.17.0, so ''should'' include this . . . it looks like its plain english terminology is called 'HideRevision' . . . however, looking at the specific [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_17_0/phase3/?pathrev=91249 code] of MW software installed here on WikiIndex, it looks different to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/?pathrev=109351 Wikipedia software].  Maybe Wikipedia uses specific and customised Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) software, whereas all other non-WMF wikis use a different software compilation, and maybe not all extensions are available to non-WMF users. :/  Anyway, as and Admin, do you see 'HideRevision' anywhere?  Best, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:43, 29 January 2012 (PST)
== 2015 discussion ==
importet from Marks talk page:
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[[User:Koavf|Koavf]], it seems odd to me as well.  Why do we require approval for an account in order to edit if anonymous can just edit anyway?  Why not just allow anyone to create an account and edit if we are going to let ips edit?  One of the major forms of spam on mediawiki installations follows the pattern 1. create account, 2. upload picture, 3. edit page with picture and lots of spam, 4. go away forever.  The ConfirmAccount extension puts a large dent into that particular spam strategy.  A second majore form of spam comes from anonymous editing from ips.  We require ip edits to pass a simple captcha to cut down on spam from them.  Accounts don't have to fill in the captcha.  Does that explanation make sense?  [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 22:21, 21 May 2015 (PDT)
: In order to save this edit I had to answer the question: "What is the name of this wiki?"  -- Brandon as [[Special:Contributions/76.27.247.138|76.27.247.138]] 22:22, 21 May 2015 (PDT)
::'''Spam filtering''' Nice. So the spam that we have recently received was from a human that copy and pasted it onto the wiki rather than a bot just drive-by spamming? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 22:50, 21 May 2015 (PDT)
::: Probably automated by a human who answered the captcha once for their script.  The captcha is really really simple and never changes. -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 23:05, 21 May 2015 (PDT)
So, as it was to be expected, Mark did not make any useful input to this question. I wonder why You Koavf started this question at this deserted space wich has a long history of unanswered questions? Why not at [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki]]?
:'''You can stop now''' It's only been a few hours--get over it. I posted here because Mark knows something about the backend of how the site works. If I just wanted to get an admin's attention, I could have done it myself as I am an admin here. You can stop posting here now unless you have something useful to say. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 06:07, 22 May 2015 (PDT)
{{outdent}}See [[WikiIndex:Community_portal/News#01_February_2014]] for the related discussion. In short, many spamming technologies change over time. Once upon a time [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140213135032&type=&user=&page=&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 spam was crazy], but my filter was powerful enough to filter [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140212124559&type=&user=Zhuyifei1999&page=&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 most of them] out. Then spammers decided to stop. They spammed with [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchFilter=12 usernames instead], which again got filtered. Then spammers decided to simply [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140221205458&limit=50&type=newusers&user=&page=&tagfilter= flood accounts with random names]. This, however, could not be prevented. That made some admins stressed, so Confirm Account was installed.
However, things change. Spammers no longer try for accounts. They simply started [[Special:Log/block|spamming without account]] instead. I would develop some filters against this, but I see no easy algorithm to identify such edits. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:50, 24 May 2015 (PDT)
:Spammers do whatever works. If they see it does not work, they do not continue. I see the need for taking responsibility from the part of wikiindex users. It is an international bunch of people distributed over quite a number of time zones. But no one has made any commitment at all to take care for spam at a certain time. If spam gets removed in a timely manner because round the clock somebody is watching and taking action, than spammers will very much dislike that. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 06:05, 24 May 2015 (PDT)
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