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I was initially under the impression that [[WikiIndex]] had such a policy, not unlike Wikipedia's [[neutral point of view]] policy. However, somewhere along the line, [[Mark Dilley]] pointed out to me that the mission of WikiIndex does not preclude providing personal commentary on the wikis listed here. I'd link to this comment, but I no longer remember where this took place. Anyway, I think that this choice leaves us open to the [[Edit War|edit wars]] which took place recently, which is why I'm not keen on it. Sticking to the facts is more akin to my way of thinking. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 04:52, 4 October 2009 (EDT) | I was initially under the impression that [[WikiIndex]] had such a policy, not unlike Wikipedia's [[neutral point of view]] policy. However, somewhere along the line, [[Mark Dilley]] pointed out to me that the mission of WikiIndex does not preclude providing personal commentary on the wikis listed here. I'd link to this comment, but I no longer remember where this took place. Anyway, I think that this choice leaves us open to the [[Edit War|edit wars]] which took place recently, which is why I'm not keen on it. Sticking to the facts is more akin to my way of thinking. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 04:52, 4 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
:[[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia's]] policy on NPOV is connected to its policy on verifiablity. This usually requires third-party published sources. That would eliminate most of this wiki. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT) | :[[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia's]] policy on NPOV is connected to its policy on verifiablity. This usually requires third-party published sources. That would eliminate most of this wiki. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
:I sorta agree with you, but it is easier said than done. I tried to post some "facts" in the [[RationalWiki]] article. My way of doing that is to quote sources and say who claimed what. Some problems with this are that it looks tacky, often sounds suspicious, and can be very repetitive when everything is something someone claims. More on that [http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/WikiIndex_(unwritten)_policies#Verifiability here]. (Another scuffle broke out [[Talk:RationalWiki#Edit wars|over an ambiguous statement]]. This is where "assume good faith" comes in.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT) | :I sorta agree with you, but it is easier said than done. I tried to post some "facts" in the [[RationalWiki]] article. My way of doing that is to quote sources and say who claimed what. Some problems with this are that it looks tacky, often sounds suspicious, and can be very repetitive when everything is something someone claims. More on that [http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/WikiIndex_(unwritten)_policies#Verifiability here]. (Another scuffle broke out [[Talk:RationalWiki#Edit wars|over an ambiguous statement]]. This is where "[[assume good faith]]" comes in.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
:(BTW, I've been trying to see if we can't get some extensions installed for footnotes/citations, to make these more tidy, but this wouldn't really solve the above issues. If I remember correctly we would need [[mw:Extension:Cite|Extension:Cite]] and [[mw:Extension:ParserFunctions|Extension:ParserFunctions].) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT) | :(BTW, I've been trying to see if we can't get some extensions installed for footnotes/citations, to make these more tidy, but this wouldn't really solve the above issues. If I remember correctly we would need [[mw:Extension:Cite|Extension:Cite]] and [[mw:Extension:ParserFunctions|Extension:ParserFunctions].) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
:Dilley does seem to agree with "neutralizing" any comments that are added, by rewriting them. This would be better than altering quotes, in my view (another small "conflict" recently). [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT) | :Dilley does seem to agree with "neutralizing" any comments that are added, by rewriting them. This would be better than altering quotes, in my view (another small "conflict" recently). [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
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::: '''[[User talk:Rock-O-Jello|This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!!]]''': you indeed can expand any wiki people bio articles - along with anything else here on WikiIndex. :) [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:07, 24 January 2017 (PST) | ::: '''[[User talk:Rock-O-Jello|This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!!]]''': you indeed can expand any wiki people bio articles - along with anything else here on WikiIndex. :) [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:07, 24 January 2017 (PST) | ||
: My feeling is that we stick with [[ | : My feeling is that we stick with [[assume good faith]] when writing about [[WikiPeople]] and that those people are either; active on wiki, were active on wiki, studied wiki, wrote about wiki, whatever re: wiki. Appreciate the work! ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
::Assuming good faith is great for a wiki as a whole, but we need to be more careful too over accuracy. We don't want to leave ourselves open to any potential legal action for factually incorrect information - especially if it was say defamatory or derogatory. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:41, 2 February 2017 (PST) | ::Assuming good faith is great for a wiki as a whole, but we need to be more careful too over accuracy. We don't want to leave ourselves open to any potential legal action for factually incorrect information - especially if it was say defamatory or derogatory. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:41, 2 February 2017 (PST) | ||
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Certainly one has to clarify the questions regarding pictures too. Either pictures of the wiki people themselves or copies of their avatars, which often come possibly copyrighted material like comics or TV shows. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:12, 24 January 2017 (PST) | Certainly one has to clarify the questions regarding pictures too. Either pictures of the wiki people themselves or copies of their avatars, which often come possibly copyrighted material like comics or TV shows. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:12, 24 January 2017 (PST) | ||
:We all need to use both common sense, and assume good faith. Just remember that 'fair use' ONLY applies if used specifically for the wiki it is being used on. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:22, 24 January 2017 (PST) | :We all need to use both common sense, and [[assume good faith]]. Just remember that 'fair use' ONLY applies if used specifically for the wiki it is being used on. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:22, 24 January 2017 (PST) | ||