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::As for a replacement for Meta-Wiki, have you thought about [[Semantic MediaWiki]]? That is a 'meta' for the SMW suite, they are a bunch of good guys, and crucially, they are also MediaWiki developers. As for what others think of your status here on WikiIndex, I feel they perhaps misunderstand you. I personally strongly value your competence and enthusiasm, and am happy to defend your contributions. Okay, I do not personally agree with some of your interests, and providing you don't try to force-feed them (which you do not), I will be tolerant of them without endorsing them. And I have found you always respectful of my opinions and requests, and genuinely appreciate your efforts in developing and evolving WikiIndex as a whole. So for as long as I have a pulse, and active on here, am happy for you to resume here if you wish. What was the rationale for deleting [[BoyWiki]]? The log doesn't give a reason, and its [[Talk:BoyWiki|talk page]] just seems to be full of sock IPs flaming it. I would appreciate your honest recollections if possible. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 18:03, 10 December 2017 (PST) | ::As for a replacement for Meta-Wiki, have you thought about [[Semantic MediaWiki]]? That is a 'meta' for the SMW suite, they are a bunch of good guys, and crucially, they are also MediaWiki developers. As for what others think of your status here on WikiIndex, I feel they perhaps misunderstand you. I personally strongly value your competence and enthusiasm, and am happy to defend your contributions. Okay, I do not personally agree with some of your interests, and providing you don't try to force-feed them (which you do not), I will be tolerant of them without endorsing them. And I have found you always respectful of my opinions and requests, and genuinely appreciate your efforts in developing and evolving WikiIndex as a whole. So for as long as I have a pulse, and active on here, am happy for you to resume here if you wish. What was the rationale for deleting [[BoyWiki]]? The log doesn't give a reason, and its [[Talk:BoyWiki|talk page]] just seems to be full of sock IPs flaming it. I would appreciate your honest recollections if possible. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 18:03, 10 December 2017 (PST) | ||
:::There was [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal/Archive_3#BoyWiki.2FNewgon_Wiki_proposal|a debate]] on one of the community pages about deleting the pages on BoyWiki and a bunch of other wikis, and the vote ended up going against me. | |||
:::(It's actually kinda weird that the [[Nathania]] page hasn't been deleted, because that URL has been banned even from BoyChat. Even they don't want to be associated with it.) | |||
:::There also was pushback against "vanity" pages. It seems to me like WikiIndex was ''intended'' to be a bunch of vanity pages. The whole point of a public wiki besides Wikipedia is usually to serve as a repository for [[vanispamcruftisement]] that Wikipedia would delete. But, people wanted to pare down the vanity content, which means it had to go elsewhere, either to other wikis (most commonly), or to those wikis' own Project:About pages. | |||
:::It's also gotten harder to document what goes on at Wikipedia, because so much happens in secret now. When people get ArbCom- or globally banned, there's often no public case opened. They just have a discussion via their listserv or whatever other venue they use, and announce the decision. We're not even told which individuals favored or opposed the decision. The processes aren't as transparent as they used to be, which makes it harder to document wikipolitics. | |||
:::It just seems like a dark time for the wikisphere. Wikipedia, which serves as its hub, is getting more closed-off, with stuff like the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed_article_creation_trial ACTRIAL] to get in the way of newbies' putting their ideas into effect immediately. There seems to be a growing sense among Wikipedians that their job is mostly finished, and that now mostly they just need to defend what they've already created. When people want to cover a news event, for instance, people say, "Wait ten years and then create this article when it's clear that the topic has enduring interest." [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:28, 10 December 2017 (PST) | |||