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::That's sensible to me. If anything, someone can post on its talk page. Thanks, Sean. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 09:42, 6 December 2017 (PST) | ::That's sensible to me. If anything, someone can post on its talk page. Thanks, Sean. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 09:42, 6 December 2017 (PST) | ||
== It seems like SMW never really caught on == | ==It seems like SMW never really caught on== | ||
I tried it once, ran into some bugs, reached out to the community, and no one seemed to really care, so I figured it wasn't all that well-supported. | I tried it once, ran into some bugs, reached out to the community, and no one seemed to really care, so I figured it wasn't all that well-supported. | ||
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Anyway, Wikimedia went in the direction of Wikidata, but doesn't seem to have really leveraged its full potential yet. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 19:35, 10 December 2017 (PST) | Anyway, Wikimedia went in the direction of Wikidata, but doesn't seem to have really leveraged its full potential yet. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 19:35, 10 December 2017 (PST) | ||
:I think the reason [[:Category:Semantic MediaWiki|SMW]] didn't gain much traction and reach out to a wider audience is probably two-fold. First, it was never supported by Wikimedia Foundation - which sorta pushed SMW onto the ropes before it even got out of its corner; second, SMW is actually quite a difficult and unforgiving bunch of software. Whilst I understand the fundamental principles of SMW, and understand its very real value of enabling wikis into highly structured data, I think that marrying SMW to MediaWiki would cause severe problems. Not in compatibility, more so because MediaWiki is just so <u>easy</u> for even the most illiterate software users to grasp, whereas SMW probably requires a degree in computer programming to get the best out of it! I think had the proposed MediaWiki Foundation (the one for specific independent MW users) taken off, there ''could'' have been a real opportunity for SMW.org to merge, or at least form a much closer partnership with MWF. And there is real need for advanced data handling in wikis - the business world are turning to the likes of [[:Category:Socialtext|Socialtext]] (which combines wiki with advanced social networking, high level data handling and spreadsheet functions) or [[:Category:EditMe|EditMe]] (similar to Socialtext, without the strong emphasis on social networking, but concentrating on data, spreadsheet and CMS). | |||
:Wikidata is strange. It is capable of comprehensive data, but it isn't structured in orthodox formats of relational databases, nor even the lesser data handling features of spreadsheets. The quality of data is at the peril of Wikipedia editors - ''some'' data is well referenced, but an awful lot is general info sourced from quite literally anywhere on the 'net. One example is when Wikidata is relying on IMDb for referencing - yet IMDb is exactly like Wikipedia - user-generated content (usually fandom) - and so can not be consistently relied upon. | |||
:All that aside, you are still very welcome here. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 00:55, 12 December 2017 (PST) | |||