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==Recent Changes== | ==Recent Changes== | ||
[[ | [[Recent changes]] and point it to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Recent_changes, thus utilizing wikis that are already documented. Do one for tags and other browse functions. | ||
Recursive Nature of Wiki example. Having recent changes be more consisted with the site, i.e. template with a wiki on it? Or have it point to the meta wiki media. or both. | Recursive Nature of Wiki example. Having recent changes be more consisted with the site, i.e. template with a wiki on it? Or have it point to the meta wiki media. or both. | ||
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Please see [[WikiIndex talk:Deleting pages]]. Thanks! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 02:30, 11 Mar 2006 (EST) | Please see [[WikiIndex talk:Deleting pages]]. Thanks! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 02:30, 11 Mar 2006 (EST) | ||
== | ==Real names== | ||
I know you're busy. No hurry. When you get a chance, could you look in on [[WikiIndex talk: | I know you're busy. No hurry. When you get a chance, could you look in on [[WikiIndex talk:Real names#RealNames is a given, what about pseudo vs ip?|the real names discussion page]]? Thanks! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:14, 16 Mar 2006 (EST) | ||
==good idea== | ==good idea== | ||
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==[[LocalNames]]== | ==[[LocalNames]]== | ||
I think that what you are calling [[LocalNames]] is what the [[MediaWiki.org]] software refers to as an [[interwiki]] or intermap link. I can, for example, user the [[WikiPedia:User talk:BlankVerse]] link on every wiki using the MediaWiki software and that will link to my user page on the [[English Wikipedia]]. I haven't been able to find where the WikiIndex keeps its interwiki map, but it it must have one for that last link to work. The interwiki map for all of the [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] projects is at [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map] and the [[UseMod]]/[[MeatballWiki]] map is at [http://usemod.com/intermap.txt]. Also see [[wikipedia: | I think that what you are calling [[LocalNames]] is what the [[MediaWiki.org]] software refers to as an [[interwiki]] or intermap link. I can, for example, user the [[WikiPedia:User talk:BlankVerse]] link on every wiki using the MediaWiki software and that will link to my user page on the [[English Wikipedia]]. I haven't been able to find where the WikiIndex keeps its interwiki map, but it it must have one for that last link to work. The interwiki map for all of the [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] projects is at [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map] and the [[:Category:UseModWiki|UseMod]]/[[MeatballWiki]] map is at [http://usemod.com/intermap.txt]. Also see [[wikipedia:Interwiki]] and http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?InterMap. [[User:BlankVerse]] | <small>[[User talk:BlankVerse|talk]]</small> 18:38, 29 Mar 2006 (EST) | ||
:These live in the 'interwiki' table on the MySQL database; there is an [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special_page_to_work_with_the_interwiki_table extension] available for MW1.5+ to allow them to be edited directly from a [[special:interwiki]] page. | :These live in the 'interwiki' table on the MySQL database; there is an [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special_page_to_work_with_the_interwiki_table extension] available for MW1.5+ to allow them to be edited directly from a [[special:interwiki]] page. | ||
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[10:50pm] MarkDilley: and I am not sure exactly what you mean, I know what you are saying I think | [10:50pm] MarkDilley: and I am not sure exactly what you mean, I know what you are saying I think | ||
[10:50pm] MarkDilley: I mean, I think I understand the problem | [10:50pm] MarkDilley: I mean, I think I understand the problem | ||
[10:51pm] MarkDilley: Please put on the wiki your ideas about how to do this...? | [10:51pm] MarkDilley: Please put on the wiki your ideas about how to do this...?</pre> | ||
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==Thanks== | ==Thanks== | ||
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So it wouldn't bother you at all if I never logged in? You don't hold my edits to a different standard than an anon? You know I'm asking because it's '''all about me!''' :-) No, actually, what I'm saying is that when I know it's you, when I see your name, even if I disagree with something you're doing, there's an automatic cutting of slack. If I see an IP, I don't know who it is. I'm more likely to simply revert. Someone not invested enough here to sign their work hasn't earned the right to ruffle feathers, I'd say. I don't have any reason to this this person will be back to answer questions I might ask about their actions. Someone with a login has something invested. | So it wouldn't bother you at all if I never logged in? You don't hold my edits to a different standard than an anon? You know I'm asking because it's '''all about me!''' :-) No, actually, what I'm saying is that when I know it's you, when I see your name, even if I disagree with something you're doing, there's an automatic cutting of slack. If I see an IP, I don't know who it is. I'm more likely to simply revert. Someone not invested enough here to sign their work hasn't earned the right to ruffle feathers, I'd say. I don't have any reason to this this person will be back to answer questions I might ask about their actions. Someone with a login has something invested. | ||
And just to be clear, you and I agree on [[ | And just to be clear, you and I agree on [[real name]]s as the standard. Where we disagree (I think), is on IP vs psuedo. For me, an IP is not a person, it's a machine or an anoyance or a spammer. A psuedo is a person. I'd rather know their name and interact with them that way, but it is a person to me. It's less of a person than someone using their [[real name]], for sure, but way more of a person to me than is an IP. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 11:45, 12 Apr 2006 (EDT) | ||
''No it would never bother me if you never logged in. I would learn the IPs that you posted from. So we agree on [[ | ''No it would never bother me if you never logged in. I would learn the IPs that you posted from. So we agree on [[real name]]s - but we have a big gap on the Ip vs Psudonym. I feel the opposite, an psudonym is a jokester, someone who I don't think this that seriously, not a person. I feel it is a trap to think of a psudonym as an identity. An IP to me can represent the beautiful anonymity that the wiki can provide. I read IP and psudonym edits in similar light, content. I am not inclinded to [[revert]] anything that anyone has done, unless it is obvious [[spam]], because I want them to explore their ideas, however simple they may be, or however I may not understand them yet.'' | ||
''Much of what I have been thinking about in regards to some of our ([[diff]]s) is in the BalancingProcessAndProduct realm, if that makes any sense. I am still groking it. Thanks for your thoughtfullness Ted. Best, MarkDilley'' | ''Much of what I have been thinking about in regards to some of our ([[diff]]s) is in the BalancingProcessAndProduct realm, if that makes any sense. I am still groking it. Thanks for your thoughtfullness Ted. Best, MarkDilley'' | ||
Mark, I just had a brainstorm and came here to tell you about it and found your comment. I'll give you my brainstorm first and then see if I have more to add in terms of your comment. My brainstorm has to do with the login procedure. Why do we have a UserName? Shouldn't it just be a Name? If it was a Name, would that not encourage more people to use [[ | Mark, I just had a brainstorm and came here to tell you about it and found your comment. I'll give you my brainstorm first and then see if I have more to add in terms of your comment. My brainstorm has to do with the login procedure. Why do we have a UserName? Shouldn't it just be a Name? If it was a Name, would that not encourage more people to use [[real name]]s? This will require John's help, of course. What do you think? Worth pursuing? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 16:36, 12 Apr 2006 (EDT) | ||
:That would probably mean forking MediaWiki, which I don't think the [[GPL]] lets you do too easily. Though we ''could'' just edit the login screen to mention all this. I forget the name of the actual page, but it's somewhere in the MediaWiki: namespace. —[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 20:24, 16 Apr 2006 (EDT) | :That would probably mean forking MediaWiki, which I don't think the [[:Category:Wiki GNU General Public License|GPL]] lets you do too easily. Though we ''could'' just edit the login screen to mention all this. I forget the name of the actual page, but it's somewhere in the MediaWiki: namespace. —[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 20:24, 16 Apr 2006 (EDT) | ||
Sean and Ted, I think that is a great idea Ted! I have asked John to look into changing the title of '''Article''' to '''Wiki''' because that is basically what it is. I don't understand the problem with making those tweaks Sean, so if you could find a path to your suggestion, that would be fab! | Sean and Ted, I think that is a great idea Ted! I have asked John to look into changing the title of '''Article''' to '''Wiki''' because that is basically what it is. I don't understand the problem with making those tweaks Sean, so if you could find a path to your suggestion, that would be fab! | ||
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==UseMod== | ==UseMod== | ||
Mark, I see you're tidying up the UseModWiki / UseMod issue. I haven't looked at many of your edits, but I'm confused about [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=BlogWiki&curid=1208&diff=11378&oldid=11360&rcid=19357 this one]. In fact, forget that, the categories themselves are confused. See this | Mark, I see you're tidying up the UseModWiki / UseMod issue. I haven't looked at many of your edits, but I'm confused about [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=BlogWiki&curid=1208&diff=11378&oldid=11360&rcid=19357 this one]. In fact, forget that, the categories themselves are confused. See this: Category:UseMod which hard redirects to [[UseModWiki]] which in turn soft redirects to [[:Category:UseModWiki]]. Confusing! How should it be laid out? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:03, 14 Apr 2006 (EDT) | ||
Teaked it a little, it is still messy. This is the whole category as wiki thing I am trying to figure out. The categories get messy. Will try to look at it later. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | Teaked it a little, it is still messy. This is the whole category as wiki thing I am trying to figure out. The categories get messy. Will try to look at it later. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
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Mark: Thanks for the welcome and updating of my pages. | Mark: Thanks for the welcome and updating of my pages. | ||
[[David Spencer]], | [[David Spencer]], ChristianMedia.ca | ||
[[WikiIndex]] is a very helpful site! [[David Spencer]], Canada | [[WikiIndex]] is a very helpful site! [[David Spencer]], Canada | ||
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Thanks for the welcome Mark. [[Michael Misovec]] | Thanks for the welcome Mark. [[Michael Misovec]] | ||