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:If there's nothing backing up a wiki but an individual, then it dies as soon as he stops paying the bills. If there's an organization backing the wiki, then they may keep paying the bills, but leave the wiki without anyone at the helm. [[VjWiki]] might be an example of that. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:32, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
:If there's nothing backing up a wiki but an individual, then it dies as soon as he stops paying the bills. If there's an organization backing the wiki, then they may keep paying the bills, but leave the wiki without anyone at the helm. [[VjWiki]] might be an example of that. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:32, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
::If there is nobody to turn it over to, and if the goal was to build a community project, ''it failed.'' It may have been useful for a while. But useful for what? Some wikis became highly useful for wasting time battling spam, with owners not knowing how to handle it, or not having adequate support. See [[MeatBallWiki]], a major example. Apparently domain registration and hosting is still being paid. Then it won't be, and what people built may disappear. Ultimately, that happens to all we do; however.... --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 15:42, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
::If there is nobody to turn it over to, and if the goal was to build a community project, ''it failed.'' It may have been useful for a while. But useful for what? Some wikis became highly useful for wasting time battling spam, with owners not knowing how to handle it, or not having adequate support. See [[MeatballWiki]], a major example. Apparently domain registration and hosting is still being paid. Then it won't be, and what people built may disappear. Ultimately, that happens to all we do; however.... --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 15:42, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
:::A lot of organizations are the same way. How many rely on a key person, such as an indefatigable activist-spokesperson-organizer, and will fold if he gets hit by a bus? They may have a lot of people willing to serve in minor roles, but none are able and willing to step up to the top post and devote themselves to it the way he did. Those organizers succeeded in building a community of people involved in small ways, but did not succeed in grooming successors for themselves, and so when they died, so did the organization. WikiIndex doesn't even have a successor to Sean, in terms of someone willing to be such an active sysop; and that's an easier job than site owner. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:51, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
:::A lot of organizations are the same way. How many rely on a key person, such as an indefatigable activist-spokesperson-organizer, and will fold if he gets hit by a bus? They may have a lot of people willing to serve in minor roles, but none are able and willing to step up to the top post and devote themselves to it the way he did. Those organizers succeeded in building a community of people involved in small ways, but did not succeed in grooming successors for themselves, and so when they died, so did the organization. WikiIndex doesn't even have a successor to Sean, in terms of someone willing to be such an active sysop; and that's an easier job than site owner. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:51, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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