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Looks good to me.  [[User:Chadlupkes|Chadlupkes]] 16:09, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
Looks good to me.  [[Special:Contributions/Chadlupkes|Chadlupkes]] 16:09, 13 June 2008 (EDT)


==WikiIndex==
==WikiIndex==
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==Category:Pseudoscience==
==Category:Pseudoscience==
Good idea for a category. There are a good proportion of the [[wiki]]s in [[:category: Science]] that could be shifted to [[:category:Pseudoscience]]. --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 07:01, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Good idea for a category. There are a good proportion of the [[wiki]]s in [[:category: Science]] that could be shifted to [[:category: Pseudoscience]]. --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 07:01, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
:Sssssss... Get out of bed! --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 12:33, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
:Sssssss... Get out of bed! --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 12:33, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
::My computer's broken down.  I'm limited to times I can get to public computers for at the moment.  I hope I'll get mine repaired by early next week. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:52, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
::My computer's broken down.  I'm limited to times I can get to public computers for at the moment.  I hope I'll get mine repaired by early next week. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:52, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
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==Sysop==
==Sysop==
Hello, I made you a [[sysop]] because, through your efforts here, you care about this [[wiki]].  Work here is open - much of it is a reference (like [[Wikis to Add]] - not exactly what I had envisioned - but cool none the less :-)  I hope to highlight some cool things that are happening within wiki communities here - give it some warmth.  But really - you can build it in a direction you want.  One thing I think is lacking is [[welcoming]].  Several years ago, many of us got together at [[WikiSym]] in [[:Category:Denmark|Denmark]] and we set up [[WikiOhana]] - one of the first things we thought needed to happen in wikis - was to welcome people.  What also needed to happen was to welcome wikis to the [[WikiOhana]].  Look forward to more.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hello, I made you a [[sysop]] because, through your efforts here, you care about this [[wiki]].  Work here is open - much of it is a reference (like [[WikiProject:Wikis to Add]] - not exactly what I had envisioned - but cool none the less :-)  I hope to highlight some cool things that are happening within wiki communities here - give it some warmth.  But really - you can build it in a direction you want.  One thing I think is lacking is [[welcoming]].  Several years ago, many of us got together at [[WikiSym]] in [[:Category:Denmark|Denmark]] and we set up [[WikiOhana]] - one of the first things we thought needed to happen in wikis - was to welcome people.  What also needed to happen was to welcome wikis to the [[WikiOhana]].  Look forward to more.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


==Re: Welcome==
==Re: Welcome==
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==Introduction==
==Introduction==
Hi, I'm [[User:ForestForTrees|ForestForTrees]]. I'm way too busy right now seeding [[TMS Wiki|The TMS Wiki]] to do much editing here, but thought it would be good to introduce myself. [[User:ForestForTrees|ForestForTrees]] 12:13, 19 January 2009 (EST)
Hi, I'm [[Special:Contributions/ForestForTrees|ForestForTrees]]. I'm way too busy right now seeding [[TMS Wiki|The TMS Wiki]] to do much editing here, but thought it would be good to introduce myself. [[Special:Contributions/ForestForTrees|ForestForTrees]] 12:13, 19 January 2009 (EST)


==ComplaintWiki==
==ComplaintWiki==
Perhaps your complaints on [[:category:Wikia]] would be more appropriate on the [[ComplaintWiki]] article, since the ComplaintWiki is an anti-Wikia wiki. In addition, I'm not sure if Wikia is going to view the article on themselves, so maybe you would be better off complaining to Wikia on a Wikia Forum if you want change, although they may have already seen your concerns on [[Uncyclopedia]]. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 09:18, 27 January 2009 (EST)
Perhaps your complaints on [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] would be more appropriate on the [[ComplaintWiki]] article, since the ComplaintWiki is an anti-Wikia wiki. In addition, I'm not sure if Wikia is going to view the article on themselves, so maybe you would be better off complaining to Wikia on a Wikia Forum if you want change, although they may have already seen your concerns on [[Uncyclopedia]]. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 09:18, 27 January 2009 (EST)
:Thanks for telling me, but I'm not responsible for the site. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:55, 1 February 2009 (EST)
:Thanks for telling me, but I'm not responsible for the site. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 17:55, 1 February 2009 (EST)


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==[[Bureaucrat]]s==
==[[Bureaucrat]]s==
I removed your name from [[:category:Wikia]] since everyone (including myself) appear to have this ability. Wikia is probably preparing for MediaWiki 14.0. According to [https://Lists.Wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2009-February/000084.html this], the new software is now available in its stable form. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 15:01, 23 February 2009 (EST)
I removed your name from [[:category: Wikia]] since everyone (including myself) appear to have this ability. Wikia is probably preparing for MediaWiki 14.0. According to [https://Lists.Wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2009-February/000084.html this], the new software is now available in its stable form. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 15:01, 23 February 2009 (EST)


==Re: slow Wikia==
==Re: slow Wikia==
Which [[:Category:Wikia#Skins|skin]] do you use? If you're using [[:Category:Wikia#Monaco|Monaco]], then it's not Wikia that's slowing you down; it's the Monaco skin that's slowing you down. Monaco has too many elements and graphics that need extra loading time. Try switching to Monobook; less thing load and such. I'm using the computer at one of my university's library, and it's not slow. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:28, 24 February 2009 (EST)
Which [[:Category:Wikia#Skins|skin]] do you use? If you're using [[:Category:Wikia#Monaco|Monaco]], then it's not Wikia that's slowing you down; it's the Monaco skin that's slowing you down. Monaco has too many elements and graphics that need extra loading time. Try switching to [[:Category:Monobook|Monobook]]; less thing load and such. I'm using the computer at one of my university's library, and it's not slow. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:28, 24 February 2009 (EST)


==Addition of a [[wikiFactor]]?==
==Addition of a [[wikiFactor]]?==
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==New problem==
==New problem==
Hi, I think that you have to say something about [[Wikia:Forum:Changes to the Create Wiki process]] on [[:category:Wikia]]. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 22:23, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
Hi, I think that you have to say something about [[Wikia:Forum:Changes to the Create Wiki process]] on [[:category: Wikia]]. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 22:23, 25 March 2009 (EDT)


==Spam==
==Spam==
[[:Category:SpamFighting]]
[[:Category: SpamFighting]] Dear Proxima Centauri,  Thank you for fighting spam.  I am mystified at something I see in the Recent changes:
 
Dear Proxima Centauri,  Thank you for fighting spam.  I am mystified at something I see in the Recent changes:


:8 June 2009
:8 June 2009
:*(Block log); 11:16 . . Proxima Centauri (Talk | contribs | block) (blocked "User:" with an expiry time of 6 months: Spamming links to external sites)
:*(Block log); 11:16 . . Proxima Centauri (Talk | contribs | block) (blocked "User:" with an expiry time of 6 months: Spamming links to external sites)


As far as I can tell from [[Special:Contributions/]], this user has edited 2 pages, and I don't see any "links to external sites" in those edits.  While I am in favor of blocking people "Spamming links to external sites", I fail to see how blocking people who don't do that accomplishes that goal.  Therefore I unblocked this user.  Please tell me if I am making a horrible mistake :-).  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 08:49, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
As far as I can tell from [[Special:Contributions]], this user has edited 2 pages, and I don't see any "links to external sites" in those edits.  While I am in favor of blocking people "Spamming links to external sites", I fail to see how blocking people who don't do that accomplishes that goal.  Therefore I unblocked this user.  Please tell me if I am making a horrible mistake :-).  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 08:49, 8 June 2009 (EDT)


:I've responded to your message on my user talk page. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 05:48, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:I've responded to your message on my user talk page. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 05:48, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
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Hi, noticed the [[WikiSynergy]] page.  Funny!  How did you find us?  You seem to know [[RationalWiki]] and have done some research on recent edits (he may or may not have been trolling, and was otherwise a bit useful). [[User talk:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 03:18, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
Hi, noticed the [[WikiSynergy]] page.  Funny!  How did you find us?  You seem to know [[RationalWiki]] and have done some research on recent edits (he may or may not have been trolling, and was otherwise a bit useful). [[User talk:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 03:18, 25 July 2009 (EDT)


Why did you think [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=WikiSynergy&oldid=68093 this?]  It is not true, but I am very interested to know why you thought it.  I once tried to get a [[username]] on [[Conservapedia]], and I won't go near the place again, though they are welcome to bring their controversies to WikiSynergy. [[User talk:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 03:32, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
:Why did you think [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=WikiSynergy&oldid=68093 this?]  It is not true, but I am very interested to know why you thought it.  I once tried to get a [[username]] on [[Conservapedia]], and I won't go near the place again, though they are welcome to bring their controversies to WikiSynergy. [[User talk:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 03:32, 25 July 2009 (EDT)


:[[A Storehouse of Knowledge]] was started by disatisfied Conservapedians so I thought the same aplied to [[WikiSynergy]], also [[RationalWiki]] had dscovered WikiSynergy and they study Conservapedia diligently so I thought they had found WikiSynergy through their Conservapedia contacts.  I changed this the second time I edited the entry. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:10, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
::[[A Storehouse of Knowledge]] was started by disatisfied Conservapedians so I thought the same aplied to [[WikiSynergy]], also [[RationalWiki]] had dscovered WikiSynergy and they study Conservapedia diligently so I thought they had found WikiSynergy through their Conservapedia contacts.  I changed this the second time I edited the entry. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:10, 25 July 2009 (EDT)


::I see.  Actually, it is more accurate to say that it was started originally as a reaction to radical skepticism takeover of [[English Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] articles.  [[RationalWiki]] came across us at the [[SCEPCOP]] forum. Thanks for putting the page up (: [[User talk:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 16:55, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
:::I see.  Actually, it is more accurate to say that it was started originally as a reaction to radical skepticism takeover of [[English Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] articles.  [[RationalWiki]] came across us at the SCEPCOP forum. Thanks for putting the page up (: [[User talk:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 16:55, 25 July 2009 (EDT)


::Check this out [http://WikiSynergy.com/wiki/WikiSynergy:To-do_list], see what you think we ought to do. [[User talk:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 02:25, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Check this out [http://WikiSynergy.com/wiki/WikiSynergy:To-do_list], see what you think we ought to do. [[User talk:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 02:25, 27 July 2009 (EDT)


==confusing==
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==Welcome==
==Welcome==
I've created {{Template:Welcome}}
I've created {{Template|Welcome}} which is adapted from [[Liberapedia]]  Is it OK for this Wiki? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 09:20, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
which is adapted from [[Liberapedia]]  Is it OK for this Wiki? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 09:20, 8 August 2009 (EDT)


==Ceiling fans==
==Ceiling fans==
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==User:Jonah Musto==
==User:Jonah Musto==
Dear Proxima Centauri, I seem to be having problems with the user [[User:Jonah Musto]]. Repeated [[vandal]]ism of the [[Wiki main page|Main page]], as well as insertion of warning templates on my [[User talk:Spud Gun#Ping|talk]] page. All the best --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 10:50, 19 August 2009 (EDT) (PS I have also copied this message on the talk page of [[User talk:Peu#User:Jonah Musto|Wolf]]).
Dear Proxima Centauri, I seem to be having problems with the user [[User:Jonah Musto]]. Repeated [[vandal]]ism of the [[Wiki main page|Main page]], as well as insertion of warning templates on my [[User talk:Spud Gun#Ping|talk]] page. All the best --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 10:50, 19 August 2009 (EDT) (PS I have also copied this message on the talk page of [[User talk:Peu#User:Jonah Musto|Wolf]]).
:I also suggest the deletion of the image '''Image:2008Jul-ceiling-fan.jpg''' as it appears to be copyrighted material (taken from the page http://ramblings-from-early-retirement.blogspot.com/ --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 11:11, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
:I also suggest the deletion of the image 'Image:2008Jul-ceiling-fan.jpg' as it appears to be copyrighted material (taken from the page http://ramblings-from-early-retirement.blogspot.com/ --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 11:11, 19 August 2009 (EDT)


::Dear Proxima Centauri,  I am confused. Carl McBride seems to be accusing Jonah Musto of making bad edits to [[User talk:Spud Gun]].  However, when I look at https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Spud_Gun&action=history , I don't see any edits by Jonah Musto. (And one edit by {{U|MarvelZuvembie}} didn't sound at all like MarvelZuvembie to me).  What am I missing? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 00:43, 20 August 2009 (EDT)
::Dear Proxima Centauri,  I am confused. Carl McBride seems to be accusing Jonah Musto of making bad edits to [[User talk:Spud Gun]].  However, when I look at https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Spud_Gun&action=history , I don't see any edits by Jonah Musto. (And one edit by {{U|MarvelZuvembie}} didn't sound at all like MarvelZuvembie to me).  What am I missing? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 00:43, 20 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I [https://WikiIndex.org/Special:Log/delete deleted] the talkpage of Carl McBride and restored only reasonable edits because I didn't think he'd want that stuff on his talk page or in his talk page history. I tried to delete an edit by Snuffeluppergus who was also a troll, perhaps the computer didn't delete that properly and attributed it to the wrong user. I'll delete and restore again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:36, 20 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I [https://WikiIndex.org/Special:Log/delete deleted] the talk page of Carl McBride and restored only reasonable edits because I didn't think he'd want that stuff on his talk page or in his talk page history. I tried to delete an edit by Snuffeluppergus who was also a troll, perhaps the computer didn't delete that properly and attributed it to the wrong user. I'll delete and restore again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:36, 20 August 2009 (EDT)


::::Ah, so that's what I've been missing.  Such deletion of page history is something I used to do a lot.  Until I read '[[RationalWiki:Conservapedia:Burning the Evidence|Burning the Evidence]]' (one [[Archive.org:20071030070633/http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Burning the Evidence|archive]]).  That made me swing in the opposite direction, towards almost never deleting page history.  Perhaps you can help me find a good balance between the two. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:44, 20 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Ah, so that's what I've been missing.  Such deletion of page history is something I used to do a lot.  Until I read '[[RationalWiki:Conservapedia:Burning the Evidence|Burning the Evidence]]' (one [[Archive.org:20071030070633/http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Burning the Evidence|archive]]).  That made me swing in the opposite direction, towards almost never deleting page history.  Perhaps you can help me find a good balance between the two. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:44, 20 August 2009 (EDT)
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::I applaud you. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:50, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
::I applaud you. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:50, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
:::I haven't looked at the evidence but from what little I know of {{U|DavidCary}}, he seems to be a sensible person. But as I have said before, it doesn't seem that editors and [[sysop]]s have any instructions to go by. Two sysops didn't really know what to expect of the [[owner]]s until there was a conflict. One of them says they are retiring now, and now it seems you may loose another. This may have been prevented if they had some instructions from the beginning. Blocks that are now apparently deemed illegitimate, may have been prevented, if there were rules. Actually I'm not sure when DavidCary's the block policy proposal came out in relation to this, but that is a great idea. I would suggest moving it right to the policy page. Even a half-baked policy is better than no policy. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)  
:::I haven't looked at the evidence but from what little I know of {{U|DavidCary}}, he seems to be a sensible person. But as I have said before, it doesn't seem that [[editor]]s and [[sysop]]s have any instructions to go by. Two sysops didn't really know what to expect of the [[owner]]s until there was a conflict. One of them says they are retiring now, and now it seems you may loose another. This may have been prevented if they had some instructions from the beginning. Blocks that are now apparently deemed illegitimate, may have been prevented, if there were rules. Actually I'm not sure when DavidCary's the block policy proposal came out in relation to this, but that is a great idea. I would suggest moving it right to the policy page. Even a half-baked policy is better than no policy. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)  


:::I don't know how many people are lined up to take over the grueling work of fixing [[vandal]]ism and whatnot. I don't know how much work it is, but either way why don't we make some instructions and see if whoever will follow them? That is why I made a [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines|policy development page]]. (If it seems I have been using it for my benefit or fun, I apologize.) It doesn't matter to me where or how you do it, I could move "my" policy page to my wiki, and you could start over with your own, but that seems clearly to be part of the solution. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
:::I don't know how many people are lined up to take over the grueling work of fixing [[vandal]]ism and whatnot. I don't know how much work it is, but either way why don't we make some instructions and see if whoever will follow them? That is why I made a [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines|policy development page]]. (If it seems I have been using it for my benefit or fun, I apologize.) It doesn't matter to me where or how you do it, I could move "my" policy page to my wiki, and you could start over with your own, but that seems clearly to be part of the solution. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)


:::If the ability to oversight could be removed, I would recommend that in Proxima's case, for the time being, especially if the other sysops can't even see what is going on. But I don't know if she wants the job anymore, anyway. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
:::If the ability to [[oversight]] could be removed, I would recommend that in Proxima's case, for the time being, especially if the other sysops can't even see what is going on. But I don't know if she wants the job anymore, anyway. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)


::::Actually many of {{U|DavidCary}}'s ideas above, may as well be adapted as a guideline for [[sysop]]s. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:04, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
::::Actually many of {{U|DavidCary}}'s ideas above, may as well be adapted as a guideline for [[sysop]]s. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:04, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
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[[Liberapedia]] is a place where [[RationalWiki]]ans can hang out during the crisis, further Liberapedia has articles critical of [[Conservapedia]] and that information should not have been removed. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:54, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
[[Liberapedia]] is a place where [[RationalWiki]]ans can hang out during the crisis, further Liberapedia has articles critical of [[Conservapedia]] and that information should not have been removed. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:54, 23 August 2009 (EDT)


:You have a conflict of interest. You are spamming your wiki. However, most people are hanging out at Bob's place, not yours. Wonder why? [[Special:Contributions/65.60.53.250|65.60.53.250]] 15:57, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:You have a conflict of interest. You are [[spam]]ming your wiki. However, most people are hanging out at Bob's place, not yours. Wonder why? [[Special:Contributions/65.60.53.250|65.60.53.250]] 15:57, 23 August 2009 (EDT)


Bob's place is also mentioned as a place where [[RationalWiki]]ans hang out. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:58, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
Bob's place is also mentioned as a place where [[RationalWiki]]ans hang out. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:58, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

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