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Care with this can establish for the community that administrators have the privilege in order to serve the community, not merely their own opinion. It can help to build community. Thanks. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 23:22, 3 December 2014 (UTC) | Care with this can establish for the community that administrators have the privilege in order to serve the community, not merely their own opinion. It can help to build community. Thanks. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 23:22, 3 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
:'''Conflict''' For what it's worth, your points are well-taken. I don't want to seem like I'm ignoring you. I disagree with some of what you said and agree with some parts wholeheartedly. Manorainjan has clearly been causing problems and I've warned him about his behavior. Your posts are thoughtful and well-spoken but at the risk of seeming aloof, I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole on this without more input from other members or at least more time so that someone else can respond. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 06:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | :'''Conflict''' For what it's worth, your points are well-taken. I don't want to seem like I'm ignoring you. I disagree with some of what you said and agree with some parts wholeheartedly. Manorainjan has clearly been causing problems and I've warned him about his behavior. Your posts are thoughtful and well-spoken but at the risk of seeming aloof, I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole on this without more input from other members or at least more time so that someone else can respond. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 06:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
::Sure. We did not allow L. to create whatever he wanted on [[Wikiversity]], because his recent-favorite topics can be very hot, and we don't need the disruption. We pointed to how he could actually accomplish some of what he wanted -- participating in the creation of ethical guidelines -- but he decided on one issue, the suicide material, to go to [[Wikibooks]], which had already decided as a community to allow such material (and so has Wikipedia.) On the other main problem issue, we'll call it CP (to be clear, none of his sites have been "Child Pornography," but some contain material that can be construed as advocacy for personal sexual freedom, and that, in the WMF wikis, can raise issues of "Child Protection." He has apparently abandoned that issue on WMF wikis. | ::Sure. We did not allow L. to create whatever he wanted on [[:Category:Wikiversity|Wikiversity]], because his recent-favorite topics can be very hot, and we don't need the disruption. We pointed to how he could actually accomplish some of what he wanted -- participating in the creation of ethical guidelines -- but he decided on one issue, the suicide material, to go to [[:Category:Wikibooks|Wikibooks]], which had already decided as a community to allow such material (and so has [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]].) On the other main problem issue, we'll call it CP (to be clear, none of his sites have been "Child Pornography," but some contain material that can be construed as advocacy for personal sexual freedom, and that, in the WMF wikis, can raise issues of "Child Protection." He has apparently abandoned that issue on WMF wikis. | ||
::Many people explode when this topic is around. I am a parent myself.... That happened on [[RationalWiki]], which previously had a defacto policy that anything could be discussed. He stopped when warned, but people then pursued him. We saw that lead to disruption here. WikiIndex is absolutely not set up to discuss these issues and handle what will arise. | ::Many people explode when this topic is around. I am a parent myself.... That happened on [[RationalWiki]], which previously had a defacto policy that anything could be discussed. He stopped when warned, but people then pursued him. We saw that lead to disruption here. WikiIndex is absolutely not set up to discuss these issues and handle what will arise. | ||