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==Hello== | ==Hello== | ||
Requerimos saber ¿como hacer para que mi wiki : www. | Requerimos saber ¿como hacer para que mi wiki : www.Wicodatos.org pueda tener implementada la caja de creación de artículos? debido a que hemos tratado de crearle una propia, inclusive copiandola de otros wiki-sitios y no lo hemos conseguido. | ||
We need to know: as doing so that my wiki: could www. | We need to know: as doing so that my wiki: could www.Wicodatos.org have implemented the box of creation of articles? because we have tried to create the proper one to him, inclusive copying it of other wiki-places and have not obtained it. --[[User:Wicodatos Colombia|Wicodatos Colombia]] 17:55, 21 June 2006 (EDT) | ||
: My translation: [[Wicodatos]] would like the add box for their wiki, but they don't know how to do it. :-) [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 01:33, 22 June 2006 (EDT) | :My translation: [[Wicodatos]] would like the add box for their wiki, but they don't know how to do it. :-) [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 01:33, 22 June 2006 (EDT) | ||
This is a MediaWiki extension, see | ::This is a MediaWiki extension, see {{Mw|Extension:InputBox}} --[[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:05, 4 July 2006 (EDT) | ||
==WSR3== | ==WSR3== | ||
hi John, Wiki Specification Request 3 (WSR 3) is becoming active. see [[Archive.org:20070501114009/http:// | hi John, Wiki Specification Request 3 (WSR 3) is becoming active. see [[Archive.org:20070501114009/http://WikiSym.org/wiki/index.php/WSR_3]] -- Max | ||
==future wiki-nodes== | ==future wiki-nodes== | ||
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==More potential== | ==More potential== | ||
This wiki is great, but I honestly believe if it turned into a wiki of '''websites''', instead of just wikis, it could be all that better. You already would have a good start on other wikis attempting this, as you already have users and info about lots of wikis. -- | This wiki is great, but I honestly believe if it turned into a wiki of '''websites''', instead of just wikis, it could be all that better. You already would have a good start on other wikis attempting this, as you already have users and info about lots of wikis. --{{Wp|User:Elliotgoodrich|Elliot Goodrich (not a member here)}} 16:37, 19 June 2006 (EDT) | ||
::Funny you should mention that because within a week or so our sister wiki, [[AboutUs|AboutUs.com]] will launch with that exact concept pre loaded with 2 million+ web sites. Keep checking it. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 16:48, 19 June 2006 (EDT) | ::Funny you should mention that because within a week or so our sister wiki, [[AboutUs|AboutUs.com]] will launch with that exact concept pre loaded with 2 million+ web sites. Keep checking it. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 16:48, 19 June 2006 (EDT) | ||
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Hi John, please see this conversation: [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Sitemap]]. Best [[MarkDilley]] | Hi John, please see this conversation: [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Sitemap]]. Best [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==MediaWiki talk:MyNavMenu== | ==[[MediaWiki talk:MyNavMenu]]== | ||
Mind taking a minute to look in there? — <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:51, 29 September 2006 (EDT) | Mind taking a minute to look in there? — <span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:51, 29 September 2006 (EDT) | ||
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Why do we work with [[Special:Version|MediaWiki 1.6.5]] what is the upgrade policy? --[[User:Peu|Peu]] 03:09, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | Why do we work with [[Special:Version|MediaWiki 1.6.5]] what is the upgrade policy? --[[User:Peu|Peu]] 03:09, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
: The MediaWiki quarterly update policy is a bit too frequent so we try to update every 6 months or so. The 1.8.x version was just released at the beginning of October and we wait till most of the bugs in a release are fixed (probably about 1.8.5, they are on 1.8.2 already) before we start to plan an upgrade. We should be on 1.8.5 before the first of next year. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:36, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | : The MediaWiki quarterly update policy is a bit too frequent so we try to update every 6 months or so. The 1.8.x version was just released at the beginning of October and we wait till most of the bugs in a release are fixed (probably about 1.8.5, they are on 1.8.2 already) before we start to plan an upgrade. We should be on 1.8.5 before the first of next year. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:36, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
:: I see. In our company, we update closer to MediaWiki and live quite good with it (of course it's a closed wiki). What about | :: I see. In our company, we update closer to MediaWiki and live quite good with it (of course it's a closed wiki). What about {{Mw|MediaWiki:Important Release Notes#MediaWiki 1.6.x .28Legacy Releases.29|updating to 1.6.8}}? --[[User:Peu|Peu]] 13:09, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
: We try to stay with what works unless we have a problem. Every new release brings some incompatibilities that we have to work thru and generates a lot of work. If we had only one wiki and no other interests it might be possible but there are over 40 wikis that we manage on this one server and it is quite impossible to update all of them 8 times a quarter. Just as an example, this next upgrade will require changing everything to PHP5 and will break our current "pretty url" scheme, we know how to change to PHP5 but have not yet figured out what broke the "pretty url" scheme and we cannot upgrade until we solve that problem. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 13:34, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | : We try to stay with what works unless we have a problem. Every new release brings some incompatibilities that we have to work thru and generates a lot of work. If we had only one wiki and no other interests it might be possible but there are over 40 wikis that we manage on this one server and it is quite impossible to update all of them 8 times a quarter. Just as an example, this next upgrade will require changing everything to PHP5 and will break our current "pretty url" scheme, we know how to change to PHP5 but have not yet figured out what broke the "pretty url" scheme and we cannot upgrade until we solve that problem. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 13:34, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
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==error message I've never seen before== | ==error message I've never seen before== | ||
John, while patrolling recent changes, I came across [ | John, while patrolling recent changes, I came across [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Category:Asia&curid=11282&diff=32801&oldid=32701&rcid=34262 this], which displays this error: | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
The database did not find the text of a page that it should have | The database did not find the text of a page that it should have | ||
found, named "Category:Asia (Diff: 32701, 32801)". | found, named "Category:Asia (Diff: 32701, 32801)". | ||
This is usually caused by following an outdated diff or history | This is usually caused by following an outdated diff or history | ||
link to a page that has been deleted. | link to a page that has been deleted. | ||
If this is not the case, you may have found a bug in the software. | If this is not the case, you may have found a bug in the software. | ||
Please report this to an administrator, making note of the URL. | Please report this to an administrator, making note of the URL.</pre> | ||
</pre> | |||
Strange, no? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:49, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | Strange, no? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:49, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
: Very strange! I'll check further... [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:28, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | : Very strange! I'll check further... [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:28, 20 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
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The requested page title was invalid, empty, or an incorrectly | The requested page title was invalid, empty, or an incorrectly | ||
linked inter-language or inter-wiki title. It may contain one more | linked inter-language or inter-wiki title. It may contain one more | ||
characters which cannot be used in titles. | characters which cannot be used in titles.</pre> | ||
</pre> | |||
I think I understand what is going on. | I think I understand what is going on. | ||
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This happens when: | This happens when: | ||
#I obsessively check "Recent changes". I either leave that page open for hours, or I click on some "diff" or "history" link and leave *that* page open for hours. | #I obsessively check "Recent changes". I either leave that page open for hours, or I click on some "[[diff]]" or "history" link and leave *that* page open for hours. | ||
#Meanwhile, some sysop (often myself) discovers that a | #Meanwhile, some [[sysop]] (often myself) discovers that a [[spam]]mer has created a new page (not merely added spam to a pre-existing page), so that sysop deletes the page and all its history (not merely edit the page and blank all the spam). Then | ||
#I eventually return to that "Recent changes" page I had left open, and I click on the "history" or "diff" link for the deleted page. Or, I eventually return to the "diff" or "history" page that has long been deleted, and I hit "refresh" or click the "history" tab at the top. | #I eventually return to that "Recent changes" page I had left open, and I click on the "history" or "diff" link for the deleted page. Or, I eventually return to the "diff" or "history" page that has long been deleted, and I hit "refresh" or click the "history" tab at the top. | ||
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==thumbnail problem== | ==thumbnail problem== | ||
this picture [[:File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.jpg]] [[File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.jpg|48px]] is black when shown in any category, it seems it cannot be scaled? --[[User:Peu|Peu]] 08:10, 22 October 2006 (EDT) | this picture [[:File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.jpg]] [[File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.jpg|48px|alt=]] is black when shown in any category, it seems it cannot be scaled? --[[User:Peu|Peu]] 08:10, 22 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
:Something wrong with the picture, I downloaded the original and converted it to a .png format [[:File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png]] and uploaded it and it works better but still not right [[File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png|100px]] [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:46, 22 October 2006 (EDT) | :Something wrong with the picture, I downloaded the original and converted it to a .png format [[:File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png]] and uploaded it and it works better but still not right [[File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png|100px|alt=]] [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:46, 22 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
==.org / .com== | ==.org / .com== | ||
Hello John!nnWhat are your thoughts on the possibility to make all of WikiIndex's links .org? | Hello John!nnWhat are your thoughts on the possibility to make all of WikiIndex's links .org? | ||
* spurred by [http:// | * spurred by [[Archive.org:20061107105644/http://Evan.Prodromou.name/Journal/2_Brumaire_CCXV|Evan]] | ||
See you soon I hope, [[MarkDilley]] | See you soon I hope, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
:Looks complicated, I'm having enough trouble just trying to figure out the rewrite rules for upgrading to 1.8 :-) When do you arrive??? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:41, 27 October 2006 (EDT) | :Looks complicated, I'm having enough trouble just trying to figure out the rewrite rules for upgrading to 1.8 :-) When do you arrive??? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:41, 27 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
==ParserFunctions extension== | ==ParserFunctions extension== | ||
Hi John, would you please have a look on the template wiki talk [[Template talk:Wiki/Archive 1#Why not one of the extensions?]] [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] suggested to use this extension for WikiIndex; he has good experiences with it on [[Gaiapedia]], and we have problems with our 'if-template' and the resulting text layout, that could not be worked around. Could we have these extensions too (in the next future)? ''(see also [http:// | Hi John, would you please have a look on the template wiki talk [[Template talk:Wiki/Archive 1#Why not one of the extensions?]] [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] suggested to use this extension for WikiIndex; he has good experiences with it on [[Gaiapedia]], and we have problems with our 'if-template' and the resulting text layout, that could not be worked around. Could we have these extensions too (in the next future)? ''(see also [http://Gaia.Wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Dantman/Discussion my posting and his answer] on [[Gaiapedia]])'' --[[Wolf Peuker|Peu]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 10:13, 29 October 2006 (EST) | ||
: See the discussion under [[Template talk:Wiki/Archive 1#Why not one of the extensions?]]. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:15, 29 October 2006 (EST) | : See the discussion under [[Template talk:Wiki/Archive 1#Why not one of the extensions?]]. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:15, 29 October 2006 (EST) | ||
==Interwiki editing== | ==[[Interwiki]] editing== | ||
That'd be great! Thanks! <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">–</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 17:44, 29 October 2006 (EST) | That'd be great! Thanks! <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">–</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 17:44, 29 October 2006 (EST) | ||
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Since {{U|Peu}} wanted to allow the [[:Category:WikiLogo|logos]] of wikis to link to the sites I thought I'd do that because I already know the only ways images can be made into links on media wiki. | Since {{U|Peu}} wanted to allow the [[:Category:WikiLogo|logos]] of wikis to link to the sites I thought I'd do that because I already know the only ways images can be made into links on media wiki. | ||
Firstly, I don't know if it will work in the template but | Firstly, I don't know if it will work in the template but {{WMF-Meta|LinkedImage|this extension}} may let people create linked images at will if you want it. | ||
But this is the best way I can think of to make it work. I basically created a simple extension that is similar to the Fullurl and Localurl functions already built into MediaWiki. They are Fullimage and Localimage, they basicly instead of doing links to articles they make external links to local images so that they can be embedded in a method that allows for linking. | But this is the best way I can think of to make it work. I basically created a simple extension that is similar to the Fullurl and Localurl functions already built into MediaWiki. They are Fullimage and Localimage, they basicly instead of doing links to articles they make external links to local images so that they can be embedded in a method that allows for linking. | ||
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::Sorry about that, I must have slipped when I copied it from my local installation. But that's all the code there is, the code works fine. I just don't have uploads on my testing because it's a local installation on my XP Home computer meaning I can't work permissions. But I did some alternative testing to it. My guess from looking at other wikis and the MediaWiki code is that MediaWiki capitalizes the first letter of every file it uploads automaticly. So I have the ucfirst function there. From everything I've tested this should work fine. The worst that could happen is that I miscalculated something on how the system works, and some of the Places where <nowiki>{{fullimage:Something.png}}</nowiki> is used create incorrect urls that I'll half to find a way to fix. But for all purposes it should work now. wfImageDir is a system function that I used to grab the directory, so that should compensate for any mistake other than how files are capitalized. I added the end tag just for reassurance. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 04:07, 30 October 2006 (EST) | ::Sorry about that, I must have slipped when I copied it from my local installation. But that's all the code there is, the code works fine. I just don't have uploads on my testing because it's a local installation on my XP Home computer meaning I can't work permissions. But I did some alternative testing to it. My guess from looking at other wikis and the MediaWiki code is that MediaWiki capitalizes the first letter of every file it uploads automaticly. So I have the ucfirst function there. From everything I've tested this should work fine. The worst that could happen is that I miscalculated something on how the system works, and some of the Places where <nowiki>{{fullimage:Something.png}}</nowiki> is used create incorrect urls that I'll half to find a way to fix. But for all purposes it should work now. wfImageDir is a system function that I used to grab the directory, so that should compensate for any mistake other than how files are capitalized. I added the end tag just for reassurance. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 04:07, 30 October 2006 (EST) | ||
:I loaded the extension using <pre>include($IP."/extensions/FullLocalImage.php");</pre> per your instructions (other options would be "Require" or "Require_Once") and it did not cause the wiki to fail :-) so I assume it is functional. Please check it out and let me know if it is functional. I would appreciate it if you would start a page called "[[WikiIndex:Full Local Image extension|FullLocalImage Extension]]" and document the uses, syntax and source code for the extension. Many thanks! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:41, 31 October 2006 (EST) | :I loaded the extension using <pre>include($IP."/extensions/FullLocalImage.php");</pre> per your instructions (other options would be "Require" or "Require_Once") and it did not cause the wiki to fail :-) so I assume it is functional. Please check it out and let me know if it is functional. I would appreciate it if you would start a page called "[[WikiIndex:Full Local Image extension|FullLocalImage Extension]]" and document the uses, syntax and source code for the extension. Many thanks! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:41, 31 October 2006 (EST) | ||
::I looked. Unofortunatly it trys to work. But it's using a filepath instead of a urlpath (A server may use /home/~user/www/public_html/ as the filepath of it's server, and the local urlpath to that would just be /) So the links aren't working right. I'll try to find out what I can do to fix that. I added the full information on | ::I looked. Unofortunatly it trys to work. But it's using a filepath instead of a urlpath (A server may use /home/~user/www/public_html/ as the filepath of it's server, and the local urlpath to that would just be /) So the links aren't working right. I'll try to find out what I can do to fix that. I added the full information on {{WMF-Meta|User:Dantman/Full Local Image Extension|Meta}}, and just created that page you wanted with information leading to there. I put a slightly different version on meta, the only difference is I added the 'url' element to the information array so when you go to [[Special:Version]] if you change to the one on meta right now, it still won't work, but the url there will lead back to that page for information. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:06, 31 October 2006 (EST) | ||
:::Ok, I updated the code at | :::Ok, I updated the code at {{WMF-Meta|User:Dantman/Full Local Image Extension|Meta}}. There are no errors so it still won't break the site. The URL element is in so that people can reach the documentation either by the article you requested or by using the link given on [[Special:Version]]. This Time I think I found the correct methods for it from the documentation. It uses predefined methods so it should work. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:37, 31 October 2006 (EST) | ||
::::Yup double checked. 1.6.8's code has those same methods. So if something does go wrong the only glitch that could come out should be it for some reason giving the fullurl making localurl give a fullurl, and fullurl give a fullurl with the {{SERVER}} before it. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:40, 31 October 2006 (EST) | ::::Yup double checked. 1.6.8's code has those same methods. So if something does go wrong the only glitch that could come out should be it for some reason giving the fullurl making localurl give a fullurl, and fullurl give a fullurl with the {{SERVER}} before it. [[User talk:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:40, 31 October 2006 (EST) | ||
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#Has there been a community before? | #Has there been a community before? | ||
#What public realation measures has been done to promote the wiki? | #What public realation measures has been done to promote the wiki? | ||
#Can Users become admin? | #Can Users become [[admin]]? | ||
Thank you in advance, Lars Sobanski (excuse me for my english, i hope you understand what i want know?! i´m german antive...) | Thank you in advance, Lars Sobanski (excuse me for my english, i hope you understand what i want know?! i´m german antive...) | ||
:Lars, brief history of WikiIndex: | :Lars, brief history of WikiIndex: | ||
WikiIndex.com was created by [[Raymond King|Ray King]] and [[John Stanton]] in June [[:Category:FoundedIn2005|2005]] as a way to track the wiki sites they thought had value for them. At the [[WikiSym]] conference in San Diego in October 2005 Ray and John joined forces with [[Mark Dilley]] who had a much more comprehensive wiki list called SwitchWiki and took the decision to join the two efforts together. The resulting wiki was to be more comprehensive and take full advantage of wiki technology. John converted and expanded the data from both sites and built out the original set of 1000 wikis in January of 2006. Throughout 2006 a community formed around WikiIndex and greatly expanded the number of wikis and improved the original format. By November 2006 the article count was at 3,195 and WikiIndex had become the authoritative source for information about Wiki sites. | :WikiIndex.com was created by [[Raymond King|Ray King]] and [[John Stanton]] in June [[:Category:FoundedIn2005|2005]] as a way to track the wiki sites they thought had value for them. At the [[WikiSym]] conference in San Diego in October 2005 Ray and John joined forces with [[Mark Dilley]] who had a much more comprehensive wiki list called [[SwitchWiki]] and took the decision to join the two efforts together. The resulting wiki was to be more comprehensive and take full advantage of wiki technology. John converted and expanded the data from both sites and built out the original set of 1000 wikis in January of 2006. Throughout 2006 a community formed around WikiIndex and greatly expanded the number of wikis and improved the original format. By November 2006 the article count was at 3,195 and WikiIndex had become the authoritative source for information about Wiki sites. | ||
WikiIndex dedicated volunteers include the following who have sysop status: [[Raymond King|Ray King]], [[Mark Dilley]], [[John Stanton]], [[Ted Ernst]], [[DavidCary|David Cary]], [[MattisManzel|Mattis Manzel]] and [[Sean Fennel]]. Many, many others have contributed significantly to WikiIndex in all kinds of capacities. | :WikiIndex dedicated volunteers include the following who have [[sysop]] status: [[Raymond King|Ray King]], [[Mark Dilley]], [[John Stanton]], [[Ted Ernst]], [[DavidCary|David Cary]], [[MattisManzel|Mattis Manzel]] and [[Sean Fennel]]. Many, many others have contributed significantly to WikiIndex in all kinds of capacities. | ||
---- | ---- | ||
A previous community existed for SwitchWiki, Mark Dilley's creation. | :A previous community existed for SwitchWiki, Mark Dilley's creation. | ||
We did do some some promotion at various events including [[Recent Changes Camp]]. We did caricatures of participants, gave out stickers and other promotional items. | :We did do some some promotion at various events including [[Recent Changes Camp]]. We did caricatures of participants, gave out stickers and other promotional items. | ||
:[[User]]s are invided to become admins based on participation and contributions we started with 3 admins and we now have 7. | |||
[[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:29, 14 November 2006 (EST) | :[[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:29, 14 November 2006 (EST) | ||
==Namespace creation== | ==[[Namespace]] creation== | ||
Read my comments [[WikiIndex talk:About#Namespace creation|here]]. I don't know how to install it, but it could be useful. (now I know I'd put it on talk:main page but anyway) <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">–</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 10:11, 15 November 2006 (EST) | Read my comments [[WikiIndex talk:About#Namespace creation|here]]. I don't know how to install it, but it could be useful. (now I know I'd put it on talk:main page but anyway) <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">–</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 10:11, 15 November 2006 (EST) | ||
:Here I found something (maybe) {{WMF-Meta|Help:Namespace manager}}, [https://svn.Wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/namespace-manager/phase3 download] <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">–</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 14:08, 17 November 2006 (EST) | :Here I found something (maybe) {{WMF-Meta|Help:Namespace manager}}, [https://svn.Wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/namespace-manager/phase3 download] <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">–</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 14:08, 17 November 2006 (EST) | ||
:Not sure why your [[talk page]] is semi-protected. In any case, the namespace editor was something included in MW1.6-wikidata which never made it into the main code (which currently would be MW1.9-alpha). There is a | :Not sure why your [[talk page]] is semi-protected. In any case, the namespace editor was something included in MW1.6-wikidata which never made it into the main code (which currently would be MW1.9-alpha). There is a {{Mw|Extension:Simple namespaces|kludge version}} which operates as a [[Special:Interwiki]]-lookalike extension, editing a namespace list. The original was somewhat more ambitious in scope. --[[User talk:Carlb|Carlb]] 13:22, 15 December 2006 (EST) | ||
==Problems with ParserFunctions== | ==Problems with ParserFunctions== | ||
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:: Domain Tools is always slow to pick up changes, the difficulty is that Ray actually owns both the names and he has to make the changes on GoDaddy. We had already initiated the change when I discovered that the logo images weren't working properly so we reversed the change and that's when the trouble began. Ray and I are getting together today at noon and we should be able to get it squared away then. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 08:26, 18 December 2006 (PST) | :: Domain Tools is always slow to pick up changes, the difficulty is that Ray actually owns both the names and he has to make the changes on GoDaddy. We had already initiated the change when I discovered that the logo images weren't working properly so we reversed the change and that's when the trouble began. Ray and I are getting together today at noon and we should be able to get it squared away then. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 08:26, 18 December 2006 (PST) | ||
==spam filter== | ==[[spam]] filter== | ||
please see [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Spam protection filter blocks normal editing]] [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:37, 27 December 2006 (PST) | please see [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Spam protection filter blocks normal editing]] [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:37, 27 December 2006 (PST) | ||
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==Internal_error.html== | ==Internal_error.html== | ||
I'm getting the page a lot: | I'm getting the page a lot: https://WikiIndex.org/Internal_error.html | ||
Doesn't seem consistent when it shows up. Sometimes going back and clicking the orginal link again seems to work, other times not. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 11:56, 7 January 2007 (PST) | Doesn't seem consistent when it shows up. Sometimes going back and clicking the orginal link again seems to work, other times not. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 11:56, 7 January 2007 (PST) | ||
:Hmmm... I haven't noticed errors here but it does seem very slow to me. My provider, Comcast, seems to be having problems generally since the first of the year and everything seems slow. How is the speed on your end??? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:49, 7 January 2007 (PST) | :Hmmm... I haven't noticed errors here but it does seem very slow to me. My provider, Comcast, seems to be having problems generally since the first of the year and everything seems slow. How is the speed on your end??? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:49, 7 January 2007 (PST) | ||
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::I started a ticket with the new hoster, DreamHost, and if we can't get it resolved I'll move it to another hoster. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:20, 7 January 2007 (PST) | ::I started a ticket with the new hoster, DreamHost, and if we can't get it resolved I'll move it to another hoster. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:20, 7 January 2007 (PST) | ||
:::Dream Host is offloading a bunch of stuff off our server today to free up some capacity. I can see some improvement already. They say the move should be complete by midnight tonight PST so give it a whirl tomorrow and let me know how it works. If this doesn't do the trick they say they will move us to an underutilized server. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:36, 9 January 2007 (PST) | :::Dream Host is offloading a bunch of stuff off our server today to free up some capacity. I can see some improvement already. They say the move should be complete by midnight tonight PST so give it a whirl tomorrow and let me know how it works. If this doesn't do the trick they say they will move us to an underutilized server. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:36, 9 January 2007 (PST) | ||
:::PS Don't forget to change your bookmarks to | :::PS Don't forget to change your bookmarks to https://WikiIndex.org (BTW I'm on jury duty tomorrow so I'll be off line during the day) [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:39, 9 January 2007 (PST) | ||
==.org== | ==.org== | ||
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==Google Ads Monobook== | ==Google Ads Monobook== | ||
I see the info for adding [[:Category:GoogleAds|Google AdSense]] by editing the Monobook.php. Is this what you are doing here? Also the info here: [[Meta-Wiki:Google Ads Monobook]] says it is for version 1.5.6 . Just wondering if this is what you are using, will it work, or where else I should look for info. I am using version: | I see the info for adding [[:Category:GoogleAds|Google AdSense]] by editing the Monobook.php. Is this what you are doing here? Also the info here: [[Meta-Wiki:Google Ads Monobook]] says it is for version 1.5.6. Just wondering if this is what you are using, will it work, or where else I should look for info. I am using version: | ||
MediaWiki: 1.8.2 | MediaWiki: 1.8.2 | ||
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==Long, annoying URL== | ==Long, annoying URL== | ||
Why is there a index.php?title= in the URL? How did it get there? – [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]</small> 10:21, 9 February 2007 (PST) | Why is there a index.php?title= in the URL? How did it get there? – [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]</small> 10:21, 9 February 2007 (PST) | ||
::Problems with the rewrite functions in .htaccess made some pages inaccessable, see [[Community portal]]. If we can restore the short URLs we will, if not we will have to keep the standard long, ugly MediaWiki URLs. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:52, 9 February 2007 (PST) | ::Problems with the rewrite functions in .htaccess made some pages inaccessable, see [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community portal]]. If we can restore the short URLs we will, if not we will have to keep the standard long, ugly MediaWiki URLs. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:52, 9 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:::Oh. Also, I added a [[:File:Button redirect.png|redirect button]] to the [[MediaWiki:Monobook.js|toolbar]] which worked fine for a while, but for now it's just, for some reason, gone. – [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]</small> 02:53, 10 February 2007 (PST) | :::Oh. Also, I added a [[:File:Button redirect.png|redirect button]] to the [[MediaWiki:Monobook.js|toolbar]] which worked fine for a while, but for now it's just, for some reason, gone. – [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]</small> 02:53, 10 February 2007 (PST) | ||
==PrettyURL problem== | ==PrettyURL problem== | ||
Sorry to be a pest about this, but I feel the need to emphasize that at the moment this little tech glitch is a quite serious PR issue: The top google link for WikiIndex is broken by this, and gives the naive user the impression that the site is down! Can we at least make the 404 Not Found error auto redirect to a working homepage, or even just change the contents of it to include a working link to the homepage?--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:55, 15 February 2007 (PST) | Sorry to be a pest about this, but I feel the need to emphasize that at the moment this little tech glitch is a quite serious PR issue: The top google link for WikiIndex is broken by this, and gives the naive user the impression that the site is down! Can we at least make the 404 Not Found error auto redirect to a working homepage, or even just change the contents of it to include a working link to the homepage?--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:55, 15 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:I agree with you totally but I have been unable to find a solution to the problem if you have one I would love to hear about it! You can see the problem on a new test wiki I have set up at [http://www. | :I agree with you totally but I have been unable to find a solution to the problem if you have one I would love to hear about it! You can see the problem on a new test wiki I have set up at [http://www.MyRailsWeb.com MyRailsWeb.com]. Glad for any help anyone can provide. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 08:12, 15 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:I did put up a page for the 404 errors [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:56, 15 February 2007 (PST) | :I did put up a page for the 404 errors [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:56, 15 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:I implemented an automatic redirect that converts the short URL to the long URL as a workaround, code below. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:25, 15 February 2007 (PST) | :I implemented an automatic redirect that converts the short URL to the long URL as a workaround, code below. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:25, 15 February 2007 (PST) | ||
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It works! Sounds like you aren't so happy with this solution, but it seems to do the job for now -- Thanks!!--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.194.16|69.87.194.16]] 06:00, 16 February 2007 (PST) | It works! Sounds like you aren't so happy with this solution, but it seems to do the job for now -- Thanks!!--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.194.16|69.87.194.16]] 06:00, 16 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:Oops -- suddenly it is back to Not Working!--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.204.76|69.87.204.76]] 17:27, 23 February 2007 (PST) | :Oops -- suddenly it is back to Not Working!--[[Special:Contributions/69.87.204.76|69.87.204.76]] 17:27, 23 February 2007 (PST) | ||
::We had a system outage that forced us to completely rebuild WikiIndex, see [[Community portal]]. I check to see what went wrong with the script. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 19:37, 23 February 2007 (PST) | ::We had a system outage that forced us to completely rebuild WikiIndex, see [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community portal]]. I check to see what went wrong with the script. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 19:37, 23 February 2007 (PST) | ||
::Should be working now, thanks for alerting me! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 19:53, 23 February 2007 (PST) | ::Should be working now, thanks for alerting me! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 19:53, 23 February 2007 (PST) | ||
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==Dynamic Page List== | ==Dynamic Page List== | ||
The WikiIndex website is using a rather outdated version of a MediaWiki extension named DynamicPageList(DPL). There is a new version with plenty of improved functionality available. Perhaps you may want to have [http://semeb.com/dpldemo a look?] --Algorithmix [[Special:Contributions/217.111.20.10|217.111.20.10]] 08:22, 20 February 2007 (PST) | The WikiIndex website is using a rather outdated version of a MediaWiki extension named DynamicPageList (DPL). There is a new version with plenty of improved functionality available. Perhaps you may want to have [http://semeb.com/dpldemo a look?] --Algorithmix [[Special:Contributions/217.111.20.10|217.111.20.10]] 08:22, 20 February 2007 (PST) | ||
=="There are 200 articles in this category."== | =="There are 200 articles in this category."== | ||
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::::2000 is good for the [[:category:All]], maybe not soo good for other categories, for instance [[:Category:WikiLogo]], but the main misbehavior is the obviously wrong "There are '''X''' articles in this category." --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:10, 21 February 2007 (PST) | ::::2000 is good for the [[:category:All]], maybe not soo good for other categories, for instance [[:Category:WikiLogo]], but the main misbehavior is the obviously wrong "There are '''X''' articles in this category." --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:10, 21 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:::::I changed the system message to read "There are nnnn articles on this category page." to make it a bit cleared to all. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 13:39, 21 February 2007 (PST) | :::::I changed the system message to read "There are nnnn articles on this category page." to make it a bit cleared to all. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 13:39, 21 February 2007 (PST) | ||
::::::Ok, I think it's a MediaWiki issue, I can read on the english wikipedia " | ::::::Ok, I think it's a MediaWiki issue, I can read on the english wikipedia "{{Wp|MediaWiki:Category-media-count|There are $1 files in '''this section''' of this category.}}" --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 13:50, 21 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:::::::Definitely is a MediaWiki issue, all we can do is explain it better:-) [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:14, 21 February 2007 (PST) | :::::::Definitely is a MediaWiki issue, all we can do is explain it better:-) [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:14, 21 February 2007 (PST) | ||
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Dear John, I was sad when WikiIndex went offline, like too many other wiki. I am glad you brought it back online. I've been thinking about setting up a "fault-tolerant wiki". I suspect you are now more receptive to such ideas :-). | Dear John, I was sad when WikiIndex went offline, like too many other wiki. I am glad you brought it back online. I've been thinking about setting up a "fault-tolerant wiki". I suspect you are now more receptive to such ideas :-). | ||
https://web.Archive.org/web/20071011133405/https://CommunityWiki.org/odd/SoftwareBazaar/distributed_wiki | |||
The idea of making a wiki more fault-tolerant seems so obvious to me that I'm surprised every wiki isn't already fault-tolerant. But I hope to build one soon. | The idea of making a wiki more fault-tolerant seems so obvious to me that I'm surprised every wiki isn't already fault-tolerant. But I hope to build one soon. | ||
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==qwepoksdf - what does this mean?== | ==qwepoksdf - what does this mean?== | ||
Hi John, (so many questions now), what is the sense behind this junk edits all over the wiki, have you any idea? Best regards --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:04, 5 October 2007 (EDT) | Hi John, (so many questions now), what is the sense behind this junk edits all over the wiki, have you any idea? Best regards --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:04, 5 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
:Spoke with some other wiki folks at Wiki Wednesday who are experiencing the same attack & nobody seem to know, it is annoying. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:18, 5 October 2007 (EDT) | :Spoke with some other wiki folks at [[Wiki Wednesday]] who are experiencing the same attack & nobody seem to know, it is annoying. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:18, 5 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
::See my recent edit of [[WikiIndex talk:RecentChanges patrol]]. These are likely spammers testing the terrain before putting in real spam. I know it's against our policy, but may I suggest banning their IPs? It is al least moderately effective, which is better than nothing. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 04:37, 6 October 2007 (EDT) | ::See my recent edit of [[WikiIndex talk:RecentChanges patrol]]. These are likely spammers testing the terrain before putting in real [[spam]]. I know it's against our policy, but may I suggest banning their IPs? It is al least moderately effective, which is better than nothing. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 04:37, 6 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
:::I block them for a period that depends on activity. Long distances of junk insertion leads to long block times: | :::I block them for a period that depends on activity. Long distances of junk insertion leads to long block times: | ||
:::* 1 junk edit → 1 day | :::* 1 junk edit → 1 day | ||
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:::But, do we do the right, are these IPs ony used by spamming bots? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 06:04, 6 October 2007 (EDT)(sorry forgot) | :::But, do we do the right, are these IPs ony used by spamming bots? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 06:04, 6 October 2007 (EDT)(sorry forgot) | ||
::::It's definitely possible that somebody's computer is running a bot without their knowledge, or that a network with a shared IP has just one compromised computer in it. But in this case, the owners of said computer/network are at least partly responsible. Let them clean up their machines and then tell us. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 14:02, 6 October 2007 (EDT) | ::::It's definitely possible that somebody's computer is running a bot without their knowledge, or that a network with a shared IP has just one compromised computer in it. But in this case, the owners of said computer/network are at least partly responsible. Let them clean up their machines and then tell us. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 14:02, 6 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
:::::I have made a [[WikiProject:Junking bots|list of my blocked IPs]] (maybe I should expand it to all blocked IPs), it will possibly better to collect our knoledge there (would do you think about a "[[WikiProject:Junking bots]]"?). I think, we should make it visible to our anonymous | :::::I have made a [[WikiProject:Junking bots|list of my blocked IPs]] (maybe I should expand it to all blocked IPs), it will possibly better to collect our knoledge there (would do you think about a "[[WikiProject:Junking bots]]"?). I think, we should make it visible to our [[anonymous]] [[user]]s that some IPs are blocked. We should further more rethink the blocking depth: allow starting an account or not and the blocking duration. If we work seriously on this, I would say, we can keep wikiindex rather clean. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 14:19, 6 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
==How do I mark pages as patrolled?== | ==How do I mark pages as patrolled?== | ||
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==plus symbols in page names== | ==plus symbols in page names== | ||
Hi again John, do you control the rewrite rules for the Wikiindex-URLs? Maybe there is something broken (or in | Hi again John, do you control the rewrite rules for the Wikiindex-URLs? Maybe there is something broken (or in LocalSettings.php?). I know several Wikis that accept such page names. I need it fur UTC-Distance categorization. I would be happy if that could be brought to work. Thanks in advance --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 12:14, 6 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
:please look at [[:Category:Timezone UTC+2]] (← doesn't work) in [[:Category: | :please look at [[:Category:Timezone UTC+2]] (← doesn't work) in [[:Category:Time zone distances]] --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 17:17, 8 October 2007 (EDT) (tippo corrected), please have a look on it, John --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 16:36, 10 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
::This is a continuing problem with the pretty URL code in .htaccess, almost every mediawiki revision introduces some new problem with pretty url code. It takes a lot of study and trial and error on my part to debug the rewrite code because I am not very good at it :-) I'll get on it next week, any help much appreciated! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 22:45, 11 October 2007 (EDT) | ::This is a continuing problem with the pretty URL code in .htaccess, almost every mediawiki revision introduces some new problem with pretty url code. It takes a lot of study and trial and error on my part to debug the rewrite code because I am not very good at it :-) I'll get on it next week, any help much appreciated! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 22:45, 11 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
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[[Special:Contributions/Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] is a troll. He hasn’t been here since August 5th. I suggest keeping an eye on him if he returns. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:08, 11 August 2008 (EDT) | [[Special:Contributions/Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] is a troll. He hasn’t been here since August 5th. I suggest keeping an eye on him if he returns. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:08, 11 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
He's returned. He's trolling. An administrator should delete the [[WikiIndex:Sandbox|Sandbox]] and oversight it as Snuffleupagus put [ | He's returned. He's trolling. An administrator should delete the [[WikiIndex:Sandbox|Sandbox]] and oversight it as Snuffleupagus put [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex:Sandbox&oldid=56693 personal information] there. | ||
As far as I can tell this user has not made one useful contribution to the Wiki. If I were a sysop here I would consider blocking him. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:51, 25 August 2008 (EDT) | As far as I can tell this user has not made one useful contribution to the Wiki. If I were a sysop here I would consider blocking him. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:51, 25 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
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==When it says number of pages on the size template, does it mean number of articles== | ==When it says number of pages on the size template, does it mean number of articles== | ||
Or does it include the talk | Or does it include the [[talk page]]s, [[Special:Templates|templates]], images, e.t.c? P.S can you reply on my talk page --[[User:Semajdraehs|Semajdraehs]] 07:58, 27 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
:See [[WikiIndex:WikiProject - By Size]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 14:31, 22 October 2008 (EDT) | :See [[WikiIndex:WikiProject - By Size]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 14:31, 22 October 2008 (EDT) | ||
==DPL== | ==DPL== | ||
Hi John. A few months late, I noticed [ | Hi John. A few months late, I noticed [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Community_Portal&diff=54745&oldid=54278 your note] on the [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community portal]] about DPL. We had similar problems with the scalability of that feature at [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]. One thing we found helped a lot was to have a specific DPL server, so that slow queries only affect other DPL queries rather than affecting the whole site. Removing DPL from the most popular pages such as the [[Welcome|home page]] can make a huge difference, and having social rules about using simpler queries such as basic category intersections rather than anything complex can help to limit use to levels the site can cope with. I hope you're able to revive it - it was a useful feature here. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 15:21, 17 October 2008 (EDT) | ||
==[[DeveloperWiki]]== | ==[[DeveloperWiki]]== | ||
Since you are a Developer, sure you can contribute to http:// | Since you are a Developer, sure you can contribute to [[Archive.org:20090302093010/http://www.DeveloperWiki.org/wiki/Main_Page|http://DeveloperWiki.org]] too. Thanks | ||
==Thanks== | ==Thanks== | ||