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== About this talk page ==
==About this talk page==
 
I'm one of the server administrators for this wiki.  If you are having any technical problems please drop me a note on this page. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm one of the server administrators for this wiki.  If you are having any technical problems please drop me a note on this page. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


==Import from [[Talk:BrandonCsSanders]]==
==Import from [[Talk:BrandonCsSanders]]==
=== Survey of Vandalism Cleanup Options ===
===Survey of Vandalism Cleanup Options===
 
I've had some problems with spam on my own wikis and have used a variety of approaches for cleanup including rolling my own extensions that delete all traces of spam users including their accounts and their edits.  I'm trying to decide whether to invest more in those efforts right now, or to build on one of the other projects that already exists.  I've been out of touch with the work for about two years, so I need to survey the current state of things before I make my choice.  I'd love to help out my friends on wikiindex at the same time if possible, so I'm going to create my survey here.  I'm slowly working my way through the discussions around spam and upgrades on this wiki ... AND ... I welcome any ideas about what folks want ... just add them here :-) Warm Regards, [[BrandonCsSanders]]
I've had some problems with spam on my own wikis and have used a variety of approaches for cleanup including rolling my own extensions that delete all traces of spam users including their accounts and their edits.  I'm trying to decide whether to invest more in those efforts right now, or to build on one of the other projects that already exists.  I've been out of touch with the work for about two years, so I need to survey the current state of things before I make my choice.  I'd love to help out my friends on wikiindex at the same time if possible, so I'm going to create my survey here.  I'm slowly working my way through the discussions around spam and upgrades on this wiki ... AND ... I welcome any ideas about what folks want ... just add them here :-) Warm Regards, [[BrandonCsSanders]]


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[[YiFei]] has created some really nice filters, so very little spam is getting through anymore, most problem we has was with Account Creation spam.  Highly interested in solutions for folks that don't have access to the filters. Best, [[MarkDilley]] 25 February 2014
[[YiFei]] has created some really nice filters, so very little spam is getting through anymore, most problem we has was with Account Creation spam.  Highly interested in solutions for folks that don't have access to the filters. Best, [[MarkDilley]] 25 February 2014


== <s>[[WikiIndex:ServerMove]] Extensions</s> ==
==<s>[[WikiIndex:ServerMove]] Extensions</s>==
 
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Please make a list of extensions:
Please make a list of extensions:
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:I was going to say that installation of [[mw:Extension:Cite]] is overdue, but if we're going to limit the pages on wikis to short, one- or two-paragraph blurbs, then there might not be much of a point. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:43, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
:I was going to say that installation of [[mw:Extension:Cite]] is overdue, but if we're going to limit the pages on wikis to short, one- or two-paragraph blurbs, then there might not be much of a point. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:43, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


:: [[mw:Extension:Cite]] is installed.  [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 15:46, 21 April 2015 (PDT)
::[[mw:Extension:Cite]] is installed.  [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 15:46, 21 April 2015 (PDT)
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== <s>Updates on the Server move?</s> ==
==<s>Updates on the Server move?</s>==
 
You wrote " I expect the move to happen this month (February 2015)".
You wrote " I expect the move to happen this month (February 2015)".


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Is the move complete now? If so, please add a news here: [[WikiIndex:Community portal/News]]
Is the move complete now? If so, please add a news here: [[WikiIndex:Community portal/News]]


== <s>Old message</s> ==
==<s>Old message</s>==
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Still getting the message "This page is not enabled for semantic in-text annotations due to namespace restrictions. Details about how to enable the namespace is described on the configuration help page."[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Still getting the message "This page is not enabled for semantic in-text annotations due to namespace restrictions. Details about how to enable the namespace is described on the configuration help page."[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
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== Size template ==
==Size template==
[[Horizon Wiki]] size template does not work any more. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
[[Horizon Wiki]] size template does not work any more. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


: Putting 'YourWikiStatus' into the status property of that template is user error.  It should either be fixed to be one of the allowed values for [[Property:Wiki_status]], or [[Property:Wiki_status]] should be amended to allow YourWikiStatus as one of the values. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 03:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
:Putting 'YourWikiStatus' into the status property of that template is user error.  It should either be fixed to be one of the allowed values for [[Property:Wiki status]], or [[Property:Wiki status]] should be amended to allow YourWikiStatus as one of the values. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 03:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


In The old configuration it was not causing any technical problems when one let a default value unedited.
In The old configuration it was not causing any technical problems when one let a default value unedited.
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: I think the template needs to be rewritten to show a default value of 'YourWikiStatus' or whatever if there isn't a status set, and then the status will either be empty or one of the valid choices.  I'll look into this later. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 00:18, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
: I think the template needs to be rewritten to show a default value of 'YourWikiStatus' or whatever if there isn't a status set, and then the status will either be empty or one of the valid choices.  I'll look into this later. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 00:18, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


[[BBallWiki]] also shows some anomalies. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 07:13, 5 June 2015 (PDT)
[[BBallWiki]] also shows some anomalies. [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 07:13, 5 June 2015 (PDT)


: Is this still an issue?  If so, what exactly are you seeing? -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 11:53, 1 July 2015 (PDT)
: Is this still an issue?  If so, what exactly are you seeing? -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 11:53, 1 July 2015 (PDT)
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::OK, problem was, that status was "active" instead of "Active". --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:59, 30 September 2016 (PDT)
::OK, problem was, that status was "active" instead of "Active". --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:59, 30 September 2016 (PDT)


== <s>endless load</s> ==
==<s>endless load</s>==
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All pages do never finish to load.
All pages do never finish to load.
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== <s>AdSense 403 forbidden</s> ==
==<s>AdSense 403 forbidden</s>==
 
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-> Exportet to [[WikiIndex_talk:ServerMove#Google_AdSense]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 06:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
-> Exportet to [[WikiIndex talk:ServerMove#Google AdSense]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 06:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


: I removed the AdSense adverts, so this is no longer an issue. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 15:44, 21 April 2015 (PDT)
: I removed the AdSense adverts, so this is no longer an issue. [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 15:44, 21 April 2015 (PDT)
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== <s>neat freak</s> ==
==<s>neat freak</s>==
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I'm not so sure that it is good to remove all this from the server move page.
I'm not so sure that it is good to remove all this from the server move page. I would appreciate to leave most of it as history of an important even and as an outline or prototype for further similar activities. Who knows how often this wiki will move in future??? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I would appreciate to leave most of it as history of an important even  
and as an outline or prototype for further similar activities.
Who knows how often this wiki will move in future???
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


: I'm a fan of [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ConvertThreadModeToDocumentMode|Converting Thread Mode to Document Mode] so that a casual reader can get the quick summary without having to wade through a lot of back and forth.  Perhaps you could move the part that you want to keep to the discussion page? [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 19:13, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
: I'm a fan of [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ConvertThreadModeToDocumentMode|Converting Thread Mode to Document Mode] so that a casual reader can get the quick summary without having to wade through a lot of back and forth.  Perhaps you could move the part that you want to keep to the discussion page? [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 19:13, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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== <s>Who is online</s> ==
==<s>Who is online</s>==
 
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I can not get that extension to work.  
I can not get that extension to work.  
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== edit conflict ==
==edit conflict==
 
this is the second time I'm getting the edit conflict warning (anonymous) on Your talk page. But the edit is already visible in RC. --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:47, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
this is the second time I'm getting the edit conflict warning (anonymous) on Your talk page. But the edit is already visible in RC. --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:47, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


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I got one again and this time I'm surre it was me whith whom the system saw my edit in conflict. The Page did not relaod after save, so I stopped it and clicked save again. Now the system told me of "someone" who had edited the page. Why can this system no know who that was and tell me? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 07:42, 4 July 2015 (PDT)
I got one again and this time I'm surre it was me whith whom the system saw my edit in conflict. The Page did not relaod after save, so I stopped it and clicked save again. Now the system told me of "someone" who had edited the page. Why can this system no know who that was and tell me? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 07:42, 4 July 2015 (PDT)


== <s>Malformed e-mails</s> ==
==<s>Malformed e-mails</s>==
 
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:So far so good ... But I do not think, that if anybody else than You gets to fix something or manage another move or so, that Your talk page is the place where he would think that such kind of information is gathered. Where could be a good place where it would be found? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 08:37, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
:So far so good ... But I do not think, that if anybody else than You gets to fix something or manage another move or so, that Your talk page is the place where he would think that such kind of information is gathered. Where could be a good place where it would be found? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 08:37, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


Moved to: [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Malformed_Account_Creation_Notification_Emails_..._Workaround|Community Portal]]
Moved to: [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Malformed Account Creation Notification Emails ... Workaround|Community Portal]]
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== <s>Upgrade to 1.24.2</s> ==
==<s>Upgrade to 1.24.2</s>==
 
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I've upgraded to 1.24.2 and started making the wiki configurable by bureaucrats ... there will be a few anomolies that will need to be worked out.  Please let me know if you see anything out of the ordinary.  Right now I know that SemanticDrilldown is disabled.  [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 12:02, 21 April 2015 (PDT)
I've upgraded to 1.24.2 and started making the wiki configurable by bureaucrats ... there will be a few anomolies that will need to be worked out.  Please let me know if you see anything out of the ordinary.  Right now I know that SemanticDrilldown is disabled.  [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 12:02, 21 April 2015 (PDT)
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== Account request e-mails ==
==Account request e-mails==
 
'''Please inspect''' Now they are being sent out twice. I just got two for [[User:Laken Hardy]], one after MarkDilley made the account. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 08:57, 27 April 2015 (PDT)
'''Please inspect''' Now they are being sent out twice. I just got two for [[User:Laken_Hardy]], one after MarkDilley made the account. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 08:57, 27 April 2015 (PDT)
*'''Multiple e-mails''' I just got three e-mails reading "(Rickymarioz1) has requested an account and is waiting for confirmation.
*'''Multiple e-mails''' I just got three e-mails reading "(Rickymarioz1) has requested an account and is waiting for confirmation.
The email address has been confirmed. You can confirm the request here http://wikiindex.org/Special:ConfirmAccounts" [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 21:44, 10 May 2015 (PDT)
The email address has been confirmed. You can confirm the request here https://wikiindex.org/Special:ConfirmAccounts" [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 21:44, 10 May 2015 (PDT)
 
== Optimization? ==


==Optimization?==
Looks like woorank got some interesting suggestions:
Looks like woorank got some interesting suggestions:
https://www.woorank.com/en/www/wikiindex.org
https://www.woorank.com/en/www/wikiindex.org
[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 05:45, 18 May 2015 (PDT)
[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 05:45, 18 May 2015 (PDT)


== output format of edit count ==
==output format of edit count==
 
Looks like an very old configuration problem to me:
Looks like an very old configuration problem to me:
http://wikiindex.org/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=BrandonCsSanders&usprop=editcount
https://wikiindex.org/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=BrandonCsSanders&usprop=editcount
Can it be fixed? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 13:42, 21 May 2015 (PDT)
Can it be fixed? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 13:42, 21 May 2015 (PDT)


: Where does this link come from and what should it be displaying? [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 16:37, 21 May 2015 (PDT)
: Where does this link come from and what should it be displaying? [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 16:37, 21 May 2015 (PDT)


:: http://wikiindex.org/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=BrandonCsSanders&usprop=editcount&format=xml gets it in xml if that is what you want [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 16:37, 21 May 2015 (PDT)
:: https://wikiindex.org/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=BrandonCsSanders&usprop=editcount&format=xml gets it in xml if that is what you want [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 16:37, 21 May 2015 (PDT)


:I copied it from some ones user page where it was configured very similar to what is now the first line of my user page (right end). Mathematically the output looks correct. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 02:15, 22 May 2015 (PDT)
:I copied it from some ones user page where it was configured very similar to what is now the first line of my user page (right end). Mathematically the output looks correct. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 02:15, 22 May 2015 (PDT)


== <s>Account setting question</s> ==
==<s>Account setting question</s>==
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[http://wikiindex.org/User_talk:MarkDilley#Spam over here] - Best, [[MarkDilley]]
[[User talk:MarkDilley#Spam|over here]] - Best, [[MarkDilley]]
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== <s>Closure of these wikis</s> ==
==<s>Closure of these wikis</s>==
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Hello, I invite you to close now the wikis that I have founded (I am Rex8/HAL-9000): http://rex.wiki/ - http://needforspeed.wiki/ - http://harrypotter.wiki/ - http://informatica.wiki/ ------[[Special:Contributions/79.41.169.216|79.41.169.216]] 11:09, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
Hello, I invite you to close now the wikis that I have founded (I am Rex8/HAL-9000): http://rex.wiki/ - http://needforspeed.wiki/ - http://harrypotter.wiki/ - http://informatica.wiki/ ------[[Special:Contributions/79.41.169.216|79.41.169.216]] 11:09, 6 June 2015 (PDT)
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: done [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 16:33, 24 August 2015 (PDT)
: done [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 16:33, 24 August 2015 (PDT)


== Bug: Create Page ==
==Bug: Create Page==
 
"A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software."
"A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software."
I tried to create a page "Was ein Wiki ist", translated [[WhatIsWiki]] into German, whereas I started by editing [[Hilfe:Inhalt]], changing the link to [[Was ein Wiki ist]], used [Show Preview] and created the new page from there, without finishing my edit on [[Hilfe:Inhalt]]. All Data from the new page got lost during [Save page]. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:54, 7 February 2016 (PST)--[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:54, 7 February 2016 (PST)
I tried to create a page "Was ein Wiki ist", translated [[WhatIsWiki]] into German, whereas I started by editing [[Hilfe:Inhalt]], changing the link to [[Was ein Wiki ist]], used [Show Preview] and created the new page from there, without finishing my edit on [[Hilfe:Inhalt]]. All Data from the new page got lost during [Save page]. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:54, 7 February 2016 (PST)--[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:54, 7 February 2016 (PST)


== [[OSCamp]] ==
==[[OSCamp]]==
 
Time to update? --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 06:09, 18 March 2016 (PDT)
Time to update? --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 06:09, 18 March 2016 (PDT)


== [[WikiFactor]] ==
==[[wikiFactor]]==
 
Hey Brandon,  do you know what the issues are surrounding the [[Talk:wikiFactor#New versions of WikiMedia no longer have popular pages page|Hit Counter]] that is used in [[wikiFactor]], i.e. if there aren't technical ramifications for [[WikiIndex]], is it possible to put this on a update schedule?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hey Brandon,  do you know what the issues are surrounding the [http://wikiindex.org/Talk:WikiFactor#New_versions_of_WikiMedia_no_longer_have_popular_pages_page Hit Counter] that is used in [[WikiFactor]], i.e. if there aren't technical ramifications for [[WikiIndex]], is it possible to put this on a update schedule?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
 
:Indeed we should have this extension! --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 01:16, 30 May 2017 (PDT)
:Indeed we should have this extension! --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 01:16, 30 May 2017 (PDT)


== Runtime error ==
==Runtime error==
 
'''[[List of wikis by number of pages]]''' What is happening here? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 14:38, 22 June 2016 (PDT)
'''[[List_of_wikis_by_number_of_pages]]''' What is happening here? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 14:38, 22 June 2016 (PDT)


==ping==
==ping==
We do not have the extension to work with {{ping|USERNAME}}. Can this be installed? --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:25, 18 August 2016 (PDT)
We do not have the extension to work with {{ping|USERNAME}}. Can this be installed? --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:25, 18 August 2016 (PDT)


== IP-Edit while logged in ==
==IP-Edit while logged in==
 
I was looged in during my last edit. It did not show in RC and not in my contributions list. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:12, 20 August 2016 (PDT)
I was looged in during my last edit. It did not show in RC and not in my contributions list. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:12, 20 August 2016 (PDT)


== Thanks ==
==Thanks==
 
Thank you for your warm welcome. :-) --[[User:13Reasons|13Reasons]] ([[User talk:13Reasons|talk]]) 12:09, 29 May 2017 (PDT)
Thank you for your warm welcome. :-) --[[User:13Reasons|13Reasons]] ([[User talk:13Reasons|talk]]) 12:09, 29 May 2017 (PDT)


== WikiIndex ==
==WikiIndex==
 
Just out of curiosity, are you still working for WikiIndex? --[[User:Itallyano|Itallyano]] ([[User talk:Itallyano|talk]]) 08:06, 9 December 2017 (PST)
Just out of curiosity, are you still working for WikiIndex? --[[User:Itallyano|Itallyano]] ([[User talk:Itallyano|talk]]) 08:06, 9 December 2017 (PST)

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