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==Mark Dilley wins another victory in the fight against unnecessary complexity==
I guess I was expecting dozens of people to each insert their pet peeve into the [[WikiIndex talk:Blocking Policy#draft blocking policy proposal]], making it balloon up into a huge monster of complexity.


== Mark Dilley wins another victory in the fight against unnecessary complexity ==
I am pleasantly surprised that you made it shorter. Also, it makes me happy that you deleted my negative language about "warning" and replaced it with a more positive alternative. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:44, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
 
I guess I was expecting dozens of people to each insert their pet peeve into the
[[WikiIndex talk:Blocking Policy#draft blocking policy proposal]],
making it balloon up into a huge monster of complexity.
 
I am pleasantly surprised that you made it shorter.
Also, it makes me happy that you deleted my negative language about "warning" and replaced it with a more positive alternative.
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:44, 8 September 2009 (EDT)


== The value of discussion ==
== The value of discussion ==
Discussion is also work, unless not completed and hanging in the air for years. Even then it is work, only without result. Naturally it is easier to do little edits here and there and consider that as work with results rather than coming to a conclusion in a debate since the later requires more staying power.  
Discussion is also work, unless not completed and hanging in the air for years. Even then it is work, only without result. Naturally it is easier to do little edits here and there and consider that as work with results rather than coming to a conclusion in a debate since the later requires more staying power.  


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::: Sometimes? ;-) For every work there is a competence to aquire that makes it easier if not possible at all. [http://www.pmsa.de/NonviolentCommunication/ NVC] and sorry for late reply, I was busy with "work" ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
::: Sometimes? ;-) For every work there is a competence to aquire that makes it easier if not possible at all. [http://www.pmsa.de/NonviolentCommunication/ NVC] and sorry for late reply, I was busy with "work" ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
* 了解!--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 23:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
* 了解!--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 23:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
===How community works===
===How community works===
* [[Meatball:WhyWikiWorks]] is what I was so poorly trying to get to. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
* [[Meatball:WhyWikiWorks]] is what I was so poorly trying to get to. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
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== Ohai Mark ==
== Ohai Mark ==
Sincerely, Johnny. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 23:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Sincerely, Johnny. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 23:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


== Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki? ==
== Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki? ==
 
Discussion [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Alternative Infoboxes|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 19:36, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Discussion [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Alternative_Infoboxes|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 19:36, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 


== Improving the community ==
== Improving the community ==
[[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Discussion_with_results_AKA_work_.3B-.29|Discussion with results AKA work ;-)]] Any suggestions? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
[[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Discussion with results AKA work .3B-.29|Discussion with results AKA work ;-)]] Any suggestions? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
 
== [[WikiIndex_talk:Community_talk#Request_account_-_real_name]] ==


== [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Request account - real name]] ==
Do You know the answer?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
Do You know the answer?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])


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== Too late ==
== Too late ==
 
https://WikiIndex.org/User_talk:W812949
http://wikiindex.org/User_talk:W812949
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])


== Wikipediaphobie? ==
== Wikipediaphobie? ==
 
Wikipedia has no page about us: {{Wp|List of wikis}}
Wikipedia has no page about us:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wikis


And then the ivory tower inhabitants wonder why this Wiki does not grow a stronger user base within the said 8+ years...  
And then the ivory tower inhabitants wonder why this Wiki does not grow a stronger user base within the said 8+ years...  
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== [[User:Robin Patterson]] ==
== [[User:Robin Patterson]] ==
 
Do You know what role Robin Patterson played in the founding phase of WikiIndex? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:27, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Do You know what role Robin Patterson played in the founding phase of WikiIndex?
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:27, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


Robin helped with [[SwitchWiki]] and jumped over to [[WikiIndex]] for a bit. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
Robin helped with [[SwitchWiki]] and jumped over to [[WikiIndex]] for a bit. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
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== [[Proposal:WikiIndex Pages on indexed Wikis|Great discussion :-)]] ==
== [[Proposal:WikiIndex Pages on indexed Wikis|Great discussion :-)]] ==
... You said 2007 ...
... You said 2007 ...


Was there any result? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 07:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Was there any result? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 07:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


== [[Project Namespace]] ==
==Project Namespace==
 
Can You give a definition of 'Project:' namespace?
Can You give a definition of [[Project Namespace]]?
:They are typically the name of the wiki, also called meta pages. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
:They are typically the name of the wiki, also called meta pages. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


== fb ==
== fb ==
Do You ever read your facebook mails? M.
Do You ever read your facebook mails? M.


== new WikiIndex logo ==
== new WikiIndex logo ==
[[:File:WikiIndexLogo2014.png]]
[[:File:WikiIndexLogo2014.png]]


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: Really?  As Sean suggests, a sunflower with the brackets around it is copyrighted.  Makes sense to me. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: Really?  As Sean suggests, a sunflower with the brackets around it is copyrighted.  Makes sense to me. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:: and looks like it is in the public domain, thanks [[YiFei]].
:: and looks like it is in the public domain, thanks [[YiFei]].
 


== blocked from doing work ==
== blocked from doing work ==
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:That's only true if the last man standing is mortally wounded before he finishes everyone else off. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:10, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
:That's only true if the last man standing is mortally wounded before he finishes everyone else off. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:10, 20 September 2014 (UTC)


Hey Birdy, if You can't sleep, do something useful: [[Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#Table_of_results|Table of results]] M.
Hey Birdy, if You can't sleep, do something useful: [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Table of results|Table of results]] M.


== [[User:Manorainjan]] ==
== [[User:Manorainjan]] ==
Mark, there are numerous reasons why the above user should be blocked, some of them extremely serious, and I must insist that the block should stand.  I will detail my reasons on Monday, when I have more time and less interuptions.  I would appreciate that you support your fellow sysops, rather than constantly over-rulling them.  Respectfully yours, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:00, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Mark, there are numerous reasons why the above user should be blocked, some of them extremely serious, and I must insist that the block should stand.  I will detail my reasons on Monday, when I have more time and less interuptions.  I would appreciate that you support your fellow sysops, rather than constantly over-rulling them.  Respectfully yours, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:00, 21 September 2014 (UTC)


== [[Special:RequestAccount]] ==
== [[Special:RequestAccount]] ==
We got to change this page in order to supply necessary information right there.
We got to change this page in order to supply necessary information right there.


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[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:35, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:35, 24 September 2014 (UTC)


== [[Talk:AssumeGoodFaith]] ==
== [[Talk:Assume good faith]] ==
 
Check my recent rant about Your favourite dogma ;-) And [[User talk:Babooshka|how]] I got there. (He/she/it/them was online today) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:10, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Check my recent rant about Your favourite dogma ;-)  
And [[User talk:Babooshka|how]] I got there. (He/she/it/them was online today)
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:10, 24 September 2014 (UTC)


== Template:Grey4Column ==
== Template:Grey4Column ==
 
* [[:Template:Wp]]  Delete? Categorize? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])
* [[:Template:W]]  Delete? Categorize? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]])


== [[WikiIndex:Community portal/News]] ==
== [[WikiIndex:Community portal/News]] ==
I thought this is newest news on top? --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
I thought this is newest news on top? --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)


== [[WikiIndex:Teamwork Info]] ==
== [[WikiIndex:Teamwork Info]] ==
This is a proposal for a new wiki community related feature.
This is a proposal for a new wiki community related feature.


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== meatball ==
== meatball ==
 
What happened to [[MeatballWiki]]? It is said to be locked. But there is no reason either here or on the wiki itself. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:49, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
What happened to [[MeatballWiki]]?
It is said to be locked.
But there is no reason either here or on the wiki itself.
[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:49, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


== Real Names ==
== Real Names ==
 
You will be interested in that [[WikiIndex talk:Real names#How real is the support for real names on this_Wiki.3F]] and we will be curious to get further input from You, Mr. [[Leader]] ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:11, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
You will be interested in that [[WikiIndex_talk:RealNames#How_real_is_the_support_for_real_names_on_this_Wiki.3F]] and we will be curious to get further input from You, Mr. [[Leader]] ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:11, 22 October 2014 (UTC)


== What serves the community? ==
== What serves the community? ==
Do You think, it serves the community if You let people invent structures for apparently no reason and not teach them how to interact with community, how to introduce new intended concepts and how to get feedback from the peers? How will this serve qualitative or quantitative growth of community? This is not a rhetoric question. I expect an explanation of "What in the world where You thinking?" [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:49, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Do You think, it serves the community if You let people invent structures for apparently no reason and not teach them how to interact with community, how to introduce new intended concepts and how to get feedback from the peers? How will this serve qualitative or quantitative growth of community? This is not a rhetoric question. I expect an explanation of "What in the world where You thinking?" [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:49, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


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== Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns  ==
== Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns  ==
Hi MarkDilley.  Since you are one of the most active contributors here I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to the upcoming [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and solicit your help in making the transition a positive rather than negative experience.  Please take a moment to visit [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and curate the list of concerns.  Thanks! -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 22:39, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi MarkDilley.  Since you are one of the most active contributors here I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to the upcoming [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and solicit your help in making the transition a positive rather than negative experience.  Please take a moment to visit [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and curate the list of concerns.  Thanks! -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 22:39, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


== [[Create.Wiki‎]] ==
== [[Create.Wiki‎]] ==
 
You knew it is a farm. Why didn't You use the farm-template? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:49, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
You knew it is a farm.
Why didn't You use the farm-template? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:49, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


It's not that easy. Try this: [[Template:Wiki Farm]][[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:35, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
It's not that easy. Try this: [[Template:Wiki Farm]][[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:35, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
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== Please comment ==
== Please comment ==
 
[[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#We need to have a community discussion about Nathania.2FNathan Larson.2FUser:Leucosticte]]. Honestly, this has really been weighing on me and I am extremely uncomfortable with this content. I know we've spoken about it before but I finally took some rogue admin action about it and deleted some of the links to content about CP. I can't handle it. We shouldn't be linking to that material here or allowing someone to overrun this site with niche vanity wikis. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 06:08, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
[[WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#We_need_to_have_a_community_discussion_about_Nathania.2FNathan_Larson.2FUser:Leucosticte]]. Honestly, this has really been weighing on me and I am extremely uncomfortable with this content. I know we've spoken about it before but I finally took some rogue admin action about it and deleted some of the links to content about CP. I can't handle it. We shouldn't be linking to that material here or allowing someone to overrun this site with niche vanity wikis. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 06:08, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


Mark, I agree that your input on this would be useful. Some clarity is needed on whether this project is open to listing every wiki, or whether there's going to be some restriction on scope. No clear standard has been set as to what content isn't allowed, other than obvious linkspam to non-wiki websites, and I think that previously the door has been wide open to covering the whole wikisphere, and that that is how the situation should remain. The vast majority of WikiIndex deals with niche wikis, and that includes a handful of vanity wikis, aka blikis. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:02, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Mark, I agree that your input on this would be useful. Some clarity is needed on whether this project is open to listing every wiki, or whether there's going to be some restriction on scope. No clear standard has been set as to what content isn't allowed, other than obvious linkspam to non-wiki websites, and I think that previously the door has been wide open to covering the whole wikisphere, and that that is how the situation should remain. The vast majority of WikiIndex deals with niche wikis, and that includes a handful of vanity wikis, aka blikis. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:02, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
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== Test category ==
== Test category ==
'''[[:Category:FirstAdditional]]''' Is this serving a function now? Do you want to delete it? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 04:31, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
'''[[:Category:FirstAdditional]]''' Is this serving a function now? Do you want to delete it? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 04:31, 25 November 2014 (UTC)


It is part of the template/Boilerplate.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:23, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
It is part of the template/Boilerplate. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:23, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
:'''The template?''' There are lots of templates. Which one? What function is this serving? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 20:05, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
:'''The template?''' There are lots of templates. Which one? What function is this serving? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 20:05, 25 November 2014 (UTC)


That [[User_talk:Koavf#The_Template|Template]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:39, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
That [[User talk:Koavf#The Template|Template]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:39, 25 November 2014 (UTC)


== BackupData not available for the community ==
== BackupData not available for the community ==
Hi Mark,
Hi Mark,


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== Your silly comment about [[WikiWikiWeb]] ==
== Your silly comment about [[WikiWikiWeb]] ==
You wrote "Your efforts have closed the original [[WikiWikiWeb]] (they have moved it to the new [[Smallest Federated Wiki]]) and I request you stop editing the page going forward. [[MarkDilley]]"
You wrote "Your efforts have closed the original [[WikiWikiWeb]] (they have moved it to the new [[Smallest Federated Wiki]]) and I request you stop editing the page going forward. [[MarkDilley]]"


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== Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:ServerName#Poll]]? ==
== Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:ServerName#Poll]]? ==
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:ServerName|decision to change the domain of this wiki]].  I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion.  Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:ServerName|decision to change the domain of this wiki]].  I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion.  Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


== WikiIndex:Community portal/News ==
== WikiIndex:Community portal/News ==
Hey Mark, what was that?
Hey Mark, what was that?


Was the '''news''' in this that You woke up and finally noticed something?
Was the '''news''' in this that You woke up and finally noticed something?


I moved Your "news" to the proper place: [[WikiIndex_talk:ServerMove#Google_AdSense]]
I moved Your "news" to the proper place: [[WikiIndex talk:ServerMove#Google AdSense]]


== [[DeWikiIndex]] ==
== [[DeWikiIndex]] ==
 
Koaf said, You know something about: [[WikiIndex talk:ServerMove#ServerMove is Finished]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:30, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Koaf said, You know something about: [[WikiIndex_talk:ServerMove#ServerMove_is_Finished]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:30, 23 March 2015 (UTC)


== Spam ==
== Spam ==
'''Please explain''' It seems like we have IP editing but we also have a procedure for requesting an account: that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Can you explain this? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 13:08, 21 May 2015 (PDT)
'''Please explain''' It seems like we have IP editing but we also have a procedure for requesting an account: that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Can you explain this? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 13:08, 21 May 2015 (PDT)


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:'''You can stop now''' It's only been a few hours--get over it. I posted here because Mark knows something about the backend of how the site works. If I just wanted to get an admin's attention, I could have done it myself as I am an admin here. You can stop posting here now unless you have something useful to say. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 06:07, 22 May 2015 (PDT)
:'''You can stop now''' It's only been a few hours--get over it. I posted here because Mark knows something about the backend of how the site works. If I just wanted to get an admin's attention, I could have done it myself as I am an admin here. You can stop posting here now unless you have something useful to say. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 06:07, 22 May 2015 (PDT)


{{outdent}}See [[WikiIndex:Community_portal/News#01_February_2014]] for the related discussion. In short, many spamming technologies change over time. Once upon a time [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140213135032&type=&user=&page=&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 spam was crazy], but my filter was powerful enough to filter [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140212124559&type=&user=Zhuyifei1999&page=&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 most of them] out. Then spammers decided to stop. They spammed with [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchFilter=12 usernames instead], which again got filtered. Then spammers decided to simply [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140221205458&limit=50&type=newusers&user=&page=&tagfilter= flood accounts with random names]. This, however, could not be prevented. That made some admins stressed, so Confirm Account was installed.
{{outdent}}See [[WikiIndex:Community portal/News#01 February 2014]] for the related discussion. In short, many spamming technologies change over time. Once upon a time [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140213135032&type=&user=&page=&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 spam was crazy], but my filter was powerful enough to filter [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140212124559&type=&user=Zhuyifei1999&page=&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 most of them] out. Then spammers decided to stop. They spammed with [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchFilter=12 usernames instead], which again got filtered. Then spammers decided to simply [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20140221205458&limit=50&type=newusers&user=&page=&tagfilter= flood accounts with random names]. This, however, could not be prevented. That made some admins stressed, so Confirm Account was installed.


However, things change. Spammers no longer try for accounts. They simply started [[Special:Log/block|spamming without account]] instead. I would develop some filters against this, but I see no easy algorithm to identify such edits. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:50, 24 May 2015 (PDT)
However, things change. Spammers no longer try for accounts. They simply started [[Special:Log/block|spamming without account]] instead. I would develop some filters against this, but I see no easy algorithm to identify such edits. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:50, 24 May 2015 (PDT)


Relevant part of Discussion copied here:
Relevant part of Discussion copied here: [[WikiIndex talk:Spam Control Policy#2015 discussion]]
[[WikiIndex_talk:Spam_Control_Policy#2015_discussion]]


== Sysop rights ==
== Sysop rights ==
 
Hello, I am an active person here. Can I ask for sysop rights? --[[Special:Contributions/User:Gabriele|Gabriele]] ([[User talk:Gabriele|talk]]) 07:48, 24 May 2015 (PDT)
Hello, I am an active person here. Can I ask for sysop rights? --[[User:Gabriele|Gabriele]] ([[User talk:Gabriele|talk]]) 07:48, 24 May 2015 (PDT)


Hi Gabriele,  just checking, are you requesting deletion of your account page?  If so, I am confused by this request.  Let me know.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hi Gabriele,  just checking, are you requesting deletion of your account page?  If so, I am confused by this request.  Let me know.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


I have removed my page because it contained personal information. I have created it again. --[[User:Gabriele|Gabriele]] ([[User talk:Gabriele|talk]]) 00:48, 1 June 2015 (PDT)
I have removed my page because it contained personal information. I have created it again. --[[Special:Contributions/User:Gabriele|Gabriele]] ([[User talk:Gabriele|talk]]) 00:48, 1 June 2015 (PDT)


==Why not public?==
==Why not public?==
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== When You like something, facts become irrelevant? ==
== When You like something, facts become irrelevant? ==
[[WhatIsWiki]] You should know better. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 08:37, 5 August 2015 (PDT)
[[WhatIsWiki]] You should know better. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 08:37, 5 August 2015 (PDT)


== Do You want to do something useful? ==
== Do You want to do something useful? ==
[[:Category:Pages for deletion]] --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:58, 6 August 2015 (PDT)
[[:Category:Pages for deletion]] --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:58, 6 August 2015 (PDT)


== [[User talk:Technische-Analyse.EU]] ==
== [[User talk:Technische-Analyse.EU]] ==
Hey Mr. Comunity-building,
Hey Mr. Comunity-building,
this user which You created seems to be unresponsive to whatever one writes to him.
this user which You created seems to be unresponsive to whatever one writes to him.
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== Movement ==
== Movement ==
What means: "Cross MediaWiki direction to remove people from the User namespace)"?
What means: "Cross MediaWiki direction to remove people from the User namespace)"?
I thought the user namespace is for users?[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 03:21, 2 February 2016 (PST)
I thought the user namespace is for users?[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 03:21, 2 February 2016 (PST)
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:::::I see. So, new users with real names immediately go to main space without them even requesting it? How Do You konw they are using real names? I think it should be made policy to A: ask new users if they names are real and B ask them if they are willing to appear in main namespace. Users obviously using pseudos should be asked if the like to change to real name or if they like to get additional real name page in name space as well. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 16:07, 2 February 2016 (PST)
:::::I see. So, new users with real names immediately go to main space without them even requesting it? How Do You konw they are using real names? I think it should be made policy to A: ask new users if they names are real and B ask them if they are willing to appear in main namespace. Users obviously using pseudos should be asked if the like to change to real name or if they like to get additional real name page in name space as well. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 16:07, 2 February 2016 (PST)


== [[Hans Christian Isak Mørch Holm]] ==
==Hans Christian Isak Mørch Holm==
 
What are You smoking? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 11:57, 30 May 2016 (PDT)
What are You smoking? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 11:57, 30 May 2016 (PDT)


== Please finish the work You have started ==
== Please finish the work You have started ==
Or do You want to show is, that it is below [[Special:Contributions/76.27.236.154|You]] to create complete wiki entries? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:22, 16 June 2016 (PDT)


Or do You want to show is, that it is below [http://wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/76.27.236.154 You] to create complete wiki entries? [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:22, 16 June 2016 (PDT)
Revision history of "[[BME Encyclopedia]]" shows, You where not only the one who created the doublet of this wiki page, also You choose the wrong entry as base for the merger. The older entries history should be in the merged article. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:54, 18 August 2016 (PDT)
 
[[Revision history of "BME Encyclopedia"]] shows, You where not only the one who created the doublet of this wiki page, also You choose the wrong entry as base for the merger. The older entries history should be in the merged article. [[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:54, 18 August 2016 (PDT)


: Manorainjan, You are so very tedious.  Time for wiki vacation again.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: Manorainjan, You are so very tedious.  Time for wiki vacation again.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
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== Cleaning of TOS ==
== Cleaning of TOS ==
What You can expect if You provide email during registration, '''has''' to be part of the registration page! --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 11:12, 23 October 2016 (PDT)
What You can expect if You provide email during registration, '''has''' to be part of the registration page! --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 11:12, 23 October 2016 (PDT)


== What for are talk pages? ==
== What for are talk pages? ==
 
https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=User:Databoy&diff=next&oldid=193957
http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:Databoy&diff=next&oldid=193957
What where You thinking?
What where You thinking?
If anyone would like to talk to Databoy, You directed him to his user page.
If anyone would like to talk to Databoy, You directed him to his user page.
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== Hey, Mark ==
== Hey, Mark ==
Since you're a leader of this wiki, I figured I might as well point you to [[WikiIndex talk:Policies and Guidelines|a little vote]] I've started regarding our wiki people policies. --[[User talk:Rock-O-Jello|This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!!]] 10:18, 25 January 2017 (PST)
Since you're a leader of this wiki, I figured I might as well point you to [[WikiIndex talk:Policies and Guidelines|a little vote]] I've started regarding our wiki people policies. --[[User talk:Rock-O-Jello|This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!!]] 10:18, 25 January 2017 (PST)
: Is this the section you are referring to? [http://wikiindex.org/WikiIndex_talk:Policies_and_Guidelines#Wiki_people_policy] ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: Is this the section you are referring to? [[WikiIndex talk:Policies and Guidelines#Wiki people policy]] ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== Moving page ==
== Moving page ==
I'm actually pretty annoyed that you moved my old username -> my current username without asking me first. I have outlined my reasons in a mail.  
I'm actually pretty annoyed that you moved my old username -> my current username without asking me first. I have outlined my reasons in a mail.  


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== HTTP 500 Internal Server Error ==
== HTTP 500 Internal Server Error ==
Hello Mark, hope you are well. :)
Hello Mark, hope you are well. :)


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== Cheking with Ward ==
== Cheking with Ward ==
In 2010 You said "As far as I understand, [[PortlandPatternRepository]] is the first wiki and was nicknamed the [[WikiWikiWeb]]." and You are going to check with ward: http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk:WikiWikiWeb&diff=77664&oldid=77653
In 2010 You said "As far as I understand, [[PortlandPatternRepository]] is the first wiki and was nicknamed the [[WikiWikiWeb]]." and You are going to check with ward: http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk:WikiWikiWeb&diff=77664&oldid=77653
* Did You do that?
* Did You do that?
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== Problems remain, some serious ==
== Problems remain, some serious ==
Hi Mark
Hi Mark


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== Thank You Notification ==
== Thank You Notification ==
On Wikipedia there is this functionality that You can send thanks to editors for their edits.
On Wikipedia there is this functionality that You can send thanks to editors for their edits.
Don't You think, this positive kind of reaction could be useful in enhancing wiki community? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:42, 6 December 2017 (PST)
Don't You think, this positive kind of reaction could be useful in enhancing wiki community? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:42, 6 December 2017 (PST)
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== Advertising on WikiIndex ==
== Advertising on WikiIndex ==
Hi Mark.  Just found a comment you made back in 2011 about [http://ross.typepad.com/blog/2011/07/brands-in-google-plus.html#comment-6a00d8341cd8a453ef014e89bf7ce4970d web advertising on GooglePlus], and your clear preference of having an 'off' button for the [[:Category:Advertising|ads]].  This ties in with recent thoughts of my own, following my discovery that WikiIndex has a [[:Category:Google|Google AdSense]] account set up, but not currently enabled.  I noticed that our MediaWiki config allows us to have the ads displaying for Anon users and [[IP editor]]s, but can also turn off the ads once logged in.  This is actually an identical modus operandi which many other wikis use - both independent and major [[wiki farm]]s such as [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] and the former [[:Category:Wikkii|Wikkii]].
Hi Mark.  Just found a comment you made back in 2011 about [http://ross.typepad.com/blog/2011/07/brands-in-google-plus.html#comment-6a00d8341cd8a453ef014e89bf7ce4970d web advertising on GooglePlus], and your clear preference of having an 'off' button for the [[:Category:Advertising|ads]].  This ties in with recent thoughts of my own, following my discovery that WikiIndex has a [[:Category:Google|Google AdSense]] account set up, but not currently enabled.  I noticed that our MediaWiki config allows us to have the ads displaying for Anon users and [[IP editor]]s, but can also turn off the ads once logged in.  This is actually an identical modus operandi which many other wikis use - both independent and major [[wiki farm]]s such as [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] and the former [[:Category:Wikkii|Wikkii]].


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== Pages for deletion ==
== Pages for deletion ==
Hello, can you please check [[:Category:Pages for deletion]]? The category includes my user page and talk page, which I would like to remove because they contain personal information. --[[User:Usa11|Usa11]] ([[User talk:Usa11|talk]]) 12:35, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello, can you please check [[:Category:Pages for deletion]]? The category includes my user page and talk page, which I would like to remove because they contain personal information. --[[User:Usa11|Usa11]] ([[User talk:Usa11|talk]]) 12:35, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


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== Nathan Larson ==
== Nathan Larson ==
Regarding [[Special:Diff/213417|this]], that is in fact the same Nathan Larson. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 06:39, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Regarding [[Special:Diff/213417|this]], that is in fact the same Nathan Larson. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 06:39, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

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