User talk:Hoof Hearted/Archive4 - 2014: Difference between revisions

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:::Whoops, my bad, sorry!  The wiki engine field in the form includes an 'auto-fill' option – you just need to type the first three or four letters, and the list of wiki engines (which are spelt with those letters you just typed) will appear.  The more letters you type, the viewed options will reduce.  This works the same (or very similar) to our 'Search' box.  We don't really want to set a default, as this will be counter-productive to Semantic Data.  Apologies again for the confusion O:-)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:54, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
:::Whoops, my bad, sorry!  The wiki engine field in the form includes an 'auto-fill' option – you just need to type the first three or four letters, and the list of wiki engines (which are spelt with those letters you just typed) will appear.  The more letters you type, the viewed options will reduce.  This works the same (or very similar) to our 'Search' box.  We don't really want to set a default, as this will be counter-productive to Semantic Data.  Apologies again for the confusion O:-)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:54, 22 August 2014 (UTC)


:::: One can fill any value one imagines. That in itself is good, because one may encounter engines unknown before. But I think it is the most common case that one has no idea what the engine is (besides Wikia and unaltered MediaWiki). So empty we do not want to have it. Also we do not want to have a collection of {'no idea', 'unknown', 'UnknownEngine'; 'YourWikiEngine', ...} Therefore I think it is better to set a default like 'YourWikiEngine'. To suggest this is the the least.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:43, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
:::: One can fill any value one imagines. That in itself is good, because one may encounter engines unknown before. But I think it is the most common case that one has no idea what the engine is (besides Wikia and unaltered MediaWiki). So empty we do not want to have it. Also we do not want to have a collection of {'no idea', 'unknown', 'Unknown engine'; 'YourWikiEngine', ...} Therefore I think it is better to set a default like 'YourWikiEngine'. To suggest this is the the least.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 00:43, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


:::::To be frank, I think our listing of [[:Category:Wiki engine|wiki engines]] is arguably the most comprehensive (I mean in terms of listing, maybe not in terms of detail of each engine), so I think it unlikely we have missed out any.  That isn't to say we have a crystal ball!! – of course new engines crop up now and then, but we are generally quite swift in adding them here.  [[WikiMatrix]] is another good resource for wiki engine listing – it has considerably more in-depth detail on some engines, but it has many not listed.[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::To be frank, I think our listing of [[:Category:Wiki engine|wiki engines]] is arguably the most comprehensive (I mean in terms of listing, maybe not in terms of detail of each engine), so I think it unlikely we have missed out any.  That isn't to say we have a crystal ball!! – of course new engines crop up now and then, but we are generally quite swift in adding them here.  [[WikiMatrix]] is another good resource for wiki engine listing – it has considerably more in-depth detail on some engines, but it has many not listed.[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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Oh yes, we can! I tried it out. I filled just any nonsense term in and it was placed where all the 'auto-fill' terms would have come to. If You can restrict this field so that no new entries can be generated by just anybody, it would be good as well. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Oh yes, we can! I tried it out. I filled just any nonsense term in and it was placed where all the 'auto-fill' terms would have come to. If You can restrict this field so that no new entries can be generated by just anybody, it would be good as well. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)


:::::Finally, I struggle to agree that wiki folks have no idea what engine they are using.  Excluding the many who edit WMF or Wikia wikis, most regulars on independent wikis would know which engine they were using.  But even if you are correct, and they enter the wrong engine – this is a wiki – we can easily correct it!  In summary, only valid engines can be used from the form – we don't create false semantic information such as 'UnknownEngine', 'YourWikiEngine', etc.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::Finally, I struggle to agree that wiki folks have no idea what engine they are using.  Excluding the many who edit WMF or Wikia wikis, most regulars on independent wikis would know which engine they were using.  But even if you are correct, and they enter the wrong engine – this is a wiki – we can easily correct it!  In summary, only valid engines can be used from the form – we don't create false semantic information such as 'Unknown engine', 'YourWikiEngine', etc.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


But I could, so try it out Yourself! Possibly those silly entries do not end up in this list, but they sit on the Wiki pages at that place and cause red text and [[Special:WantedCategories]] which brings me to my next question ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
But I could, so try it out Yourself! Possibly those silly entries do not end up in this list, but they sit on the Wiki pages at that place and cause red text and [[Special:WantedCategories]] which brings me to my next question ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)