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==Renaming categories==
==Renaming categories==
How do you [[Move|rename]] a [[Special:Categories|category]]?  I don't mean cutting and pasting text to a new page.  You should be able to move the page and its [[edit history]] to a new location.  I can't do it even if I copy the old page title to the move page URL.  Can any admin do it?
How do you [[rename]] a [[Special:Categories|category]]?  I don't mean cutting and pasting text to a new page.  You should be able to move the page and its [[edit history]] to a new location.  I can't do it even if I copy the old page title to the move page URL.  Can any admin do it?


I prepared to move Category:OddMuse to [[:Category:Oddmuse]], since it is Oddmuse accroding to its [http://www.Oddmuse.org official website].  I opened all the articles with the OddMuse category in new tabs, edited them, and then noticed that I can't move the category.  Ouch.  [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 18:10, 7 Mar 2006 (EST)
I prepared to move Category:OddMuse to [[:Category:Oddmuse]], since it is Oddmuse accroding to its [http://www.Oddmuse.org official website].  I opened all the articles with the OddMuse [[category]] in new tabs, edited them, and then noticed that I can't move the category.  Ouch.  [[Special:Contributions/Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 18:10, 7 Mar 2006 (EST)


:It seems {{WMF-Meta|Help:Category#Moving a category page|no-one can move categories}}.  [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]]
:It seems {{WMF-Meta|Help:Category#Moving a category page|no-one can move categories}}.  [[Special:Contributions/Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]]


==input requested on categorization (meta)==
==input requested on categorization (meta)==
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==[[WikiNode]] question==
==[[WikiNode]] question==
I recently put my wiki up [[Trendpedia]] and today I saw an article on my wiki http://Trendpedia.ElWiki.com/WikiNode and I am trying to figure out what the article is supposed to be.  Since it was done by an [[IP editor|IP]] and I'm not sure if they'll check back, I'm asking here.  The thing is, it looks like a welcome message.  I am not sure how to develop it.  Is it supposed to be an article about [[WikiNode]] or [[WikiIndex]]?  Why does it link to my wiki's recent changes and main page?  [[User:ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 05:29, 22 August 2006 (EDT)
I recently put my wiki up [[Trendpedia]] and today I saw an article on my wiki http://Trendpedia.ElWiki.com/WikiNode and I am trying to figure out what the article is supposed to be.  Since it was done by an [[IP editor|IP]] and I'm not sure if they'll check back, I'm asking here.  The thing is, it looks like a welcome message.  I am not sure how to develop it.  Is it supposed to be an article about [[WikiNode]] or [[WikiIndex]]?  Why does it link to my wiki's recent changes and main page?  [[Special:Contributions/ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 05:29, 22 August 2006 (EDT)
:That was me.  Have you had a chance to see anything about the WikiNodes network?  [[WikiNodes Wiki|WikiNodes]] are pretty cool, and allow you to show anyone the wikis that are "neighbors" of yours.  So that page is just a generic template that I pasted in.  It linked back to your page on [[WikiIndex]] so you'd know it was us.  Feel free to change anything on the page, including the links to your RC and mainpage.  Change those to the most important pages on your site and add links to the wikinodes of sites you consider to be your neighbors.  Please let me know if you'd like to talk more about this. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 05:36, 22 August 2006 (EDT)
:That was me.  Have you had a chance to see anything about the WikiNodes network?  [[WikiNodes Wiki|WikiNodes]] are pretty cool, and allow you to show anyone the wikis that are "neighbors" of yours.  So that page is just a generic template that I pasted in.  It linked back to your page on [[WikiIndex]] so you'd know it was us.  Feel free to change anything on the page, including the links to your RC and mainpage.  Change those to the most important pages on your site and add links to the wikinodes of sites you consider to be your neighbors.  Please let me know if you'd like to talk more about this. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 05:36, 22 August 2006 (EDT)
::I still don't quite get it, but I also think all of my wiki is lost.  Please see my comment at [[Category talk:ElWiki]].  [[User:ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 14:10, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
::I still don't quite get it, but I also think all of my wiki is lost.  Please see my comment at [[Category talk:ElWiki]].  [[Special:Contributions/ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 14:10, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
That's a drag. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:26, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
That's a drag. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:26, 23 August 2006 (EDT)


Well it's back up now without explanation.  It's really hard to find a good [[wiki farm]], I find, though.  [[EditThis.info]] has a size limit.  [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] may cause you to lose control of your wiki at any time.  The rest either give you a single page or are not [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]].  [[User:ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 21:29, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
Well it's back up now without explanation.  It's really hard to find a good [[wiki farm]], I find, though.  [[EditThis.info]] has a size limit.  [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] may cause you to lose control of your wiki at any time.  The rest either give you a single page or are not [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]].  [[Special:Contributions/ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 21:29, 23 August 2006 (EDT)


==Sitemap==
==Sitemap==
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==How are you doing hotlinking in mediawiki==
==How are you doing hotlinking in mediawiki==
On my wiki's article here <nowiki>https://WikiIndex.org/Trendpedia well</nowiki> it's hotlinking my logo.  I can't find how this happens.  {{{logo}}} with three { and } instead of two is the only thing I see and that's in the wiki template, which is full of the three { and } things.  Two is templates.  So what are the three?  I'm more interested in how this is done and what the three { } are above.  I would actually prefer to keep the image hotlinked because it lets me test if I have hotlinks blocked, which I think I finally figured out how to do thanks to this site.  [[User:ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 05:52, 9 September 2006 (EDT)
On my wiki's article here <nowiki>https://WikiIndex.org/Trendpedia well</nowiki> it's hotlinking my logo.  I can't find how this happens.  {{{logo}}} with three { and } instead of two is the only thing I see and that's in the wiki template, which is full of the three { and } things.  Two is templates.  So what are the three?  I'm more interested in how this is done and what the three { } are above.  I would actually prefer to keep the image hotlinked because it lets me test if I have hotlinks blocked, which I think I finally figured out how to do thanks to this site.  [[Special:Contributions/ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 05:52, 9 September 2006 (EDT)


: [[Sean Fennel]] is the one that probably knows the answer to this one. [[MarkDilley]]
: [[Sean Fennel]] is the one that probably knows the answer to this one. [[MarkDilley]]
::Hotlinks can on some MediaWikis be made by just writing the URL. The {}'s are parameters in templates that allows the user to customize the template. <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">&ndash;</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 14:01, 15 November 2006 (EST)
::Hotlinks can on some MediaWikis be made by just writing the URL. The {}'s are parameters in templates that allows the user to customize the template. <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">&ndash;</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 14:01, 15 November 2006 (EST)


:One caveat with hotlinking: As of MediaWiki 1.8, this appears to be turned off by default (although it can be re-enabled by system administrators by changing LocalSettings.php). Default in earlier versions was to replace any exposed link to an external image URL with the hotlinked image itself.  
:One caveat with hotlinking: As of {{Mw|MediaWiki 1.8}}, this appears to be turned off by default (although it can be re-enabled by system administrators by changing LocalSettings.php). Default in earlier versions was to replace any exposed link to an external image URL with the hotlinked image itself.  
:Perhaps hotlinks are falling out-of-favour on some sites as they consume bandwidth on the external site to which they link, as well as being prone to abuse as a means to link 'shock images' from wiki pages. --[[User:Carlb|Carlb]] 14:13, 15 December 2006 (EST)
:Perhaps hotlinks are falling out-of-favour on some sites as they consume bandwidth on the external site to which they link, as well as being prone to abuse as a means to link 'shock images' from wiki pages. --[[User talk:Carlb|Carlb]] 14:13, 15 December 2006 (EST)


==For those of you who function better in UseMod==
==For those of you who function better in UseMod==
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==Category images==
==Category images==
If it's not too server-painful, we can upload an image for each category, for example a French flag for [[:Category:French]], or a image of an iPod at [[:Category:iPod]]. <span title="gotta love Wii">&ndash;</span> [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:23, 7 December 2006 (EST)
If it's not too server-painful, we can upload an image for each [[Special:Categories|category]], for example a French flag for [[:Category:French]], or a image of an iPod at [[:Category:iPod]]. <span title="gotta love Wii">&ndash;</span> [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:23, 7 December 2006 (EST)


:If you're looking for flags, https://OpenClipart.org has a reasonably full set as public-domain .SVG's. Perhaps you could use those? --[[Special:Contributions/66.102.73.18|66.102.73.18]] 02:22, 15 December 2006 (EST)
:If you're looking for flags, https://OpenClipart.org has a reasonably full set as public-domain .SVG's. Perhaps you could use those? --[[Special:Contributions/66.102.73.18|66.102.73.18]] 02:22, 15 December 2006 (EST)
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:CAPTCHAs are rather difficult to implement effectively, and really only stop spambots. I think (hope) I've created a whitelist and added that as the first entry. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:05, 1 January 2007 (PST)
:CAPTCHAs are rather difficult to implement effectively, and really only stop spambots. I think (hope) I've created a whitelist and added that as the first entry. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:05, 1 January 2007 (PST)


:Spambots are the source of most of the wiki linkspam at the moment, and blacklists are doing a poor job of dealing with the problems as spammers are free to just register more domain names and hide behind a long list of open proxies scattered across the net. There is an extension (ConfirmEdit) available from MediaWiki's SVN that provides a captcha (or asks for the answer to a maths problem) - I've found it to be the most effective way to stop 'bots from posting anything with any external links. This would be the majority of rubbish pages with trailing /'s, /index.php/ or other nonsense in the titles. --[[User:Carlb|Carlb]] 10:09, 14 May 2007 (EDT)
:Spambots are the source of most of the wiki linkspam at the moment, and blacklists are doing a poor job of dealing with the problems as spammers are free to just register more domain names and hide behind a long list of open proxies scattered across the net. There is an extension (ConfirmEdit) available from MediaWiki's SVN that provides a captcha (or asks for the answer to a maths problem) - I've found it to be the most effective way to stop 'bots from posting anything with any external links. This would be the majority of rubbish pages with trailing /'s, /index.php/ or other nonsense in the titles. --[[User talk:Carlb|Carlb]] 10:09, 14 May 2007 (EDT)


:We use the wikimedia blacklist for most of our link spam filtering see: {{WMF-Meta|Spam blacklist|spam blacklist}} if your url appears in that blacklist you should probably notify them because many wikis use that list to control spam. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:53, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
:We use the wikimedia blacklist for most of our link spam filtering see: {{WMF-Meta|Spam blacklist|spam blacklist}} if your url appears in that blacklist you should probably notify them because many wikis use that list to control spam. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:53, 15 May 2007 (EDT)


It's been brought up before, but the blacklist makes it impossible to edit the entry on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. I was only planning to update the statistics and the logo. Is there a way to whitelist ED such that the article can be edited by registered users? [[User:Dianoga|Dianoga]] 18:28, 19 December 2007 (EST)
It's been brought up before, but the blacklist makes it impossible to edit the entry on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. I was only planning to update the statistics and the logo. Is there a way to whitelist ED such that the article can be edited by registered users? [[Special:Contributions/Dianoga|Dianoga]] 18:28, 19 December 2007 (EST)


:Could I please get a local whitelisting for the site gargoyles.dracandros.com/ (with an http:// at the front). It's for the page on [[GargWiki]]. If this is not an appropriate place to ask about it, where should I go? -- [[User:Supermorff|Supermorff]] 11:58, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
:Could I please get a local whitelisting for the site gargoyles.dracandros.com/ (with an http:// at the front). It's for the page on [[GargWiki]]. If this is not an appropriate place to ask about it, where should I go? -- [[User:Supermorff|Supermorff]] 11:58, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
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:As far as I know, it still works. As for that image, I'll look through the deletion logs and see if it's there. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 21:15, 1 May 2007 (PDT)
:As far as I know, it still works. As for that image, I'll look through the deletion logs and see if it's there. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 21:15, 1 May 2007 (PDT)
::Ah, something's linking to it as a wiki page rather than a file. Ping John on that. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 21:18, 1 May 2007 (PDT)
::Ah, something's linking to it as a wiki page rather than a file. Ping John on that. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 21:18, 1 May 2007 (PDT)
:As of MediaWiki 1.8, ''$wgAllowExternalImages = false;'' is the default. This can only be changed from the config files (LocalSettings.php). --[[User:Carlb|Carlb]] 10:05, 14 May 2007 (EDT)
:As of MediaWiki 1.8, ''$wgAllowExternalImages = false;'' is the default. This can only be changed from the config files (LocalSettings.php). --[[Special:Contributions/Carlb|Carlb]] 10:05, 14 May 2007 (EDT)
::External images are re-enabled (part of the rebuilding process). [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:32, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
::External images are re-enabled (part of the rebuilding process). [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:32, 15 May 2007 (EDT)


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Can we have those? &ndash; [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]][[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 13:13, 14 May 2007 (EDT)
Can we have those? &ndash; [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]][[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 13:13, 14 May 2007 (EDT)
:Refresh me on the template signatures, what do we need to do? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:34, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
:Refresh me on the template signatures, what do we need to do? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:34, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
::So that we can have very nice looking signatures that don't take up six rows in the edit box.<br/>
::So that we can have very nice looking signatures that don't take up six rows in the edit box.<br>
Example: You can have <code><nowiki>{{User:Smiddle/sig}}</nowiki></code> instead of
Example: You can have <code><nowiki>{{User:Smiddle/sig}}</nowiki></code> instead of
<pre style="overflow:auto"><nowiki>
<pre style=overflow:auto><nowiki>
&ndash; '''[[User:Smiddle|<span title="My user page"><font color="012e01">S</font><font color="113e11">m</font><font color="214e21">i</font><font color="214e21">d</font><font color="315e31">d</font><font color="416e41">l</font><font color="517e51">e</font></span>]]''' <small>(''' [[User talk:Smiddle|<span title="Talk"><font color="2e0101">T</font><font color="3e1111">a</font><font color="4e2121">l</font><font color="5e3131">k</font></span>]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|<span title="What I've done"><font color="01012e">C</font><font color="11113e">o</font><font color="21214e">n</font><font color="31315e">t</font><font color="41416e">r</font><font color="51517e">i</font><font color="61618e">b</font><font color="71719e">s</font></span>]] ''')</small></nowiki></pre>
&ndash; '''[[User:Smiddle|<span title="My user page"><font color=012e01>S</font><font color=113e11>m</font><font color=214e21>i</font><font color=214e21>d</font><font color=315e31>d</font><font color=416e41>l</font><font color=517e51>e</font></span>]]''' <small>('''[[User talk:Smiddle|<span title="Talk"><font color=2e0101>T</font><font color=3e1111>a</font><font color=4e2121>l</font><font color=5e3131>k</font></span>]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|<span title="What I've done"><font color=01012e>C</font><font color=11113e>o</font><font color=21214e>n</font><font color=31315e>t</font><font color=41416e>r</font><font color=51517e>i</font><font color=61618e>b</font><font color=71719e>s</font></span>]]''')</small></nowiki></pre>
– [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]][[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:50, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
– [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]][[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:50, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
:Nothing technical would need to be done. Might as well set myself up one. {{User:Sean Fennel/signature}} 03:04, 31 May 2007 (EDT)'''EDIT:''' Nothing technical except allowing subpages in the "User" namespace. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 03:09, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
:Nothing technical would need to be done. Might as well set myself up one. {{User:Sean Fennel/signature}} 03:04, 31 May 2007 (EDT)'''EDIT:''' Nothing technical except allowing subpages in the "[[User]]" namespace. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 03:09, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
::Yeah, User namespaces have subpages turned on by default, guess I'll have to get with the program :-)  [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:28, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
::Yeah, User [[namespace]]s have subpages turned on by default, guess I'll have to get with the program :-)  [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:28, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
:::In some wikis, these take up bandwith and stuff, so I were just asking. – [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]][[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 16:34, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
:::In some wikis, these take up bandwith and stuff, so I were just asking. – [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]][[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 16:34, 31 May 2007 (EDT)


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:Hmm - I thought AboutUs was web-focused rather than local focused. Have you started to move in that direction at all, of the kind of thing I've been talking about, or is it something you've just been thinking about? Curious to hear your ideas. --[[User:Singkong2005|Chris Watkins a.k.a. Chriswaterguy]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</sup></small> 09:26, 14 February 2008 (EST)
:Hmm - I thought AboutUs was web-focused rather than local focused. Have you started to move in that direction at all, of the kind of thing I've been talking about, or is it something you've just been thinking about? Curious to hear your ideas. --[[User:Singkong2005|Chris Watkins a.k.a. Chriswaterguy]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</sup></small> 09:26, 14 February 2008 (EST)


::Have a look at [[WikiSocial]] --[[User:Matthias|Matthias]] 12:45, 14 February 2008 (EST)
::Have a look at [[WikiSocial]] --[[Special:Contributions/Matthias|Matthias]] 12:45, 14 February 2008 (EST)


:::A wiki to help people connect sounds like a good idea.
:::A wiki to help people connect sounds like a good idea.
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:[tangent] Many newcomers to wiki think that WYSIWYG is absolutely necessary. However, [http://CommunityWiki.org/WysiwygIsntLinking other people] feel that communicating and connecting ideas is the top priority, and current WYSIWYG wiki implementations make that unnecessarily difficult -- other, simpler ways to edit are better.[/tangent] --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 15:52, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
:[tangent] Many newcomers to wiki think that WYSIWYG is absolutely necessary. However, [http://CommunityWiki.org/WysiwygIsntLinking other people] feel that communicating and connecting ideas is the top priority, and current WYSIWYG wiki implementations make that unnecessarily difficult -- other, simpler ways to edit are better.[/tangent] --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 15:52, 18 September 2008 (EDT)


:Anyone considering doing this may find the [[Wikibooks:Starting and Running a Wiki Website|Wikibook: Starting and running a wiki website]] helpful.
:Anyone considering doing this may find the {{Wb|Starting and Running a Wiki Website|Wikibook: Starting and running a wiki website}} helpful.
:Perhaps also the [[Wiki: RunningYourOwnWikiFaq]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:15, 11 December 2008 (EST)
:Perhaps also the [[Wiki: RunningYourOwnWikiFaq]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:15, 11 December 2008 (EST)


==Wikipedia lessons==
==[[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] lessons==
I was reading [http://valleywag.com/390598/is-jimmy-wales-getting-wikipedia-in-legal-trouble this article tonight] and was wondering what this might mean for people who run their own wikis regarding legal issues. Thoughts? --[[User:LauraHale|LauraHale]] 23:18, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
I was reading [http://valleywag.com/390598/is-jimmy-wales-getting-wikipedia-in-legal-trouble this article tonight] and was wondering what this might mean for people who run their own wikis regarding legal issues. Thoughts? --[[User:LauraHale|LauraHale]] 23:18, 14 May 2008 (EDT)


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==Namespace Org/Re-org and general ideas==
==Namespace Org/Re-org and general ideas==
First of all, I'd like to say a general "hi" to the regulars here, I've been registered, but not really shown myself much.  Looking around the wiki, I've decided that for the readers, unless they know their wikis exact name, it is rather difficult to find the wiki they're looking for. Also, if they simply wish to find a list of all wikis on the subject of "cooking", for example, it could be quite challenging.  I may be new on the WikiIndex, but I do frequent various wikis across the net, such as [http://www.UESP.net/wiki/Main_Page UESP], [http://ElderScrolls.Wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page ESWiki], [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], as well as owning a few [[:Category:Private|private wikis]], under the two aliases "Jacjohncoles" and "Game Lord".  This means that I have a pretty thourough knowledge of how wikis work, both from the [[editor]]s point of view, and from the [[owner]]s point of view.  To get back to why I'm posting this in the first place though. I'm not saying that the wiki is in a disorganized mess, but I am saying that it could, in my opinion at least, be done better.  My suggestions to improve organization are the following:
First of all, I'd like to say a general "hi" to the regulars here, I've been registered, but not really shown myself much.  Looking around the wiki, I've decided that for the readers, unless they know their wikis exact name, it is rather difficult to find the wiki they're looking for. Also, if they simply wish to find a list of all wikis on the subject of "cooking", for example, it could be quite challenging.  I may be new on the WikiIndex, but I do frequent various wikis across the net, such as [http://www.UESP.net/wiki/Main_Page UESP], [http://ElderScrolls.Wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page ESWiki], [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], as well as owning a few [[:Category:Private|private wikis]], under the two aliases "Jacjohncoles" and "Game Lord".  This means that I have a pretty thourough knowledge of how wikis work, both from the [[editor]]s point of view, and from the [[owner]]s point of view.  To get back to why I'm posting this in the first place though. I'm not saying that the wiki is in a disorganized mess, but I am saying that it could, in my opinion at least, be done better.  My suggestions to improve organization are the following:
*Create seperate Namespaces for the three main subjects that WikiIndex covers. An idea for the Namespace names would be "Wiki", "Editor", and "Idea". This would give us a first step to splitting WikiIndex up into three seperate sections.
*Create seperate [[Namespace]]s for the three main subjects that WikiIndex covers. An idea for the Namespace names would be "Wiki", "Editor", and "Idea". This would give us a first step to splitting WikiIndex up into three seperate sections.
*Once we have this, we can proceed further. Each Namespace could have a main page, such as "Wiki:Contents", "Editor:Contents", and "Idea:Contents". In these content pages, we could start with splitting up individual wikis up into sections. Seperate headers for different sortations, such as "Wikis by size", "Wikis by subject" and so on.
*Once we have this, we can proceed further. Each Namespace could have a main page, such as "Wiki:Contents", "Editor:Contents", and "Idea:Contents". In these content pages, we could start with splitting up individual wikis up into sections. Seperate headers for different sortations, such as "Wikis by size", "Wikis by subject" and so on.
*These contents pages, so that they can easily be found, could be linked to from the sidebar. An obvious place to put them would be under "navigation". Equally logical would be to create a new header, called "sections" or something similar.
*These contents pages, so that they can easily be found, could be linked to from the sidebar. An obvious place to put them would be under "navigation". Equally logical would be to create a new header, called "sections" or something similar.
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==articles?==
==articles?==
Hi everybody.  I've just signed up.  Can one create an "article" here on say, Barack Obama, to use as a link farm to other wikis: e.g. Wikipedia article on Obama, [[Conservapedia]] article on Obama, [[Uncyclopedia]] article on Obama, et al?  If not there where can this be done?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks  [[User:Yartet|Yartet]] 15:56, 15 December 2008 (EST)
Hi everybody.  I've just signed up.  Can one create an "article" here on say, Barack Obama, to use as a link farm to other wikis: e.g. Wikipedia article on Obama, [[Conservapedia]] article on Obama, [[Uncyclopedia]] article on Obama, et al?  If not there where can this be done?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks  [[Special:Contributions/Yartet|Yartet]] 15:56, 15 December 2008 (EST)


:I believe that everything is on-topic somewhere [http://www.communitywiki.org/en/OnAndOffTopic].
:I believe that everything is on-topic somewhere [http://www.communitywiki.org/en/OnAndOffTopic].
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==proposal==
==proposal==
of a structure and naming scheme for wiki sites with multiple language versions: have a look [[WikiIndex:Naming conventions#multiple language versions|here]] and discuss it before it gets a new recommended standard or so...--[[User:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 18:44, 29 January 2009 (EST)
of a structure and naming scheme for wiki sites with multiple language versions: have a look [[WikiIndex:Naming conventions#multiple language versions|here]] and discuss it before it gets a new recommended standard or so...--[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 18:44, 29 January 2009 (EST)


==Dead wiki URL taken over by cybersquatters==
==Dead wiki URL taken over by cybersquatters==
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:p.s.: Is there a category that means "wiki-on-wiki conversation is on-topic", so I can tag WikiSpeedia and [[MeatballWiki]] and [[CommunityWiki.org]] and [[MediaWiki.org]] and other appropriate pages here with that category? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 09:30, 1 February 2011 (PST)
:p.s.: Is there a category that means "wiki-on-wiki conversation is on-topic", so I can tag WikiSpeedia and [[MeatballWiki]] and [[CommunityWiki.org]] and [[MediaWiki.org]] and other appropriate pages here with that category? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 09:30, 1 February 2011 (PST)


::A central web site for everything related to Wikis is extremely necessary. I just found WikiIndex today and it looks like the best place for that. Too bad that it took me more than 1 year to find it... One weakness at Wikipedia is that it doesn't have a web forum. The {{Wp|Wikipedia:Village pump|Village Pump}} is good, but far from good enough. It's practically impossible to follow an idea posted weeks ago (there are archives for each day - for example {{Wp|Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 November 24|2007 November 24}}). That's why a forum is required. A forum for everything related to Wiki. On a forum it is possible to write on the same thread even after weeks, months and years from the last post, coming with a creative and valuable answer or idea. The forum should have sub-forums for ''mediawiki and for other wiki engines'', another one for ''wiki farms'', another one for ''wikis by category'', another one for ''ideas for new wikis'' where people can search for partners to start new wikis with, another one for ''technical hep'', and so on. For example, I need to translate a template like this: {{Wp|Template:Columns-list}} to my own wiki and I don't know how to do it. Many other mediawiki users need some basic templates for their wikis and they don't know how to get them. That's why WikiSpeedia can be so helpful. It's extremely important to have a central hub for all wiki users and experts. [[User:WikiFan|WikiFan]] 20:34, 1 November 2011 (PDT)
::A central web site for everything related to Wikis is extremely necessary. I just found WikiIndex today and it looks like the best place for that. Too bad that it took me more than 1 year to find it... One weakness at Wikipedia is that it doesn't have a web forum. The {{Wp|Wikipedia:Village pump|Village Pump}} is good, but far from good enough. It's practically impossible to follow an idea posted weeks ago (there are archives for each day - for example {{Wp|Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 November 24|2007 November 24}}). That's why a forum is required. A forum for everything related to Wiki. On a forum it is possible to write on the same thread even after weeks, months and years from the last post, coming with a creative and valuable answer or idea. The forum should have sub-forums for ''mediawiki and for other wiki engines'', another one for ''wiki farms'', another one for ''wikis by category'', another one for ''ideas for new wikis'' where people can search for partners to start new wikis with, another one for ''technical hep'', and so on. For example, I need to translate a template like this: {{Wp|Template:Columns-list}} to my own wiki and I don't know how to do it. Many other mediawiki users need some basic templates for their wikis and they don't know how to get them. That's why WikiSpeedia can be so helpful. It's extremely important to have a central hub for all wiki users and experts. [[Special:Contributions/WikiFan|WikiFan]] 20:34, 1 November 2011 (PDT)


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