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This is no longer an edit mode, but is directly in [[:Category:Browse]] - needs to be cleaned up. See [[:Category:Unknown]] to help. | This is no longer an edit mode, but is directly in [[:Category:Browse]] - needs to be cleaned up. See [[:Category:Unknown]] to help. | ||
==ByInvitation and | ==ByInvitation and Read-only== | ||
Do these really need to be seperate? If [[sysop]]s can edit [[:Category: | Do these really need to be seperate? If [[sysop]]s can edit [[:Category:Read-only|Read-only]] wikis, aren't those also [[:Category:ByInvitation|ByInvitation]], by definition? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 11:34, 7 Mar 2006 (EST) | ||
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# (b) a [[wiki]] where any random person can "register" with a user name, and after some human approves it (perhaps within a day or so), can start to edit, -- vs. | # (b) a [[wiki]] where any random person can "register" with a user name, and after some human approves it (perhaps within a day or so), can start to edit, -- vs. | ||
# (c) a wiki where only the [[Sysop]] and perhaps a few people the Sysop has selected ahead of time can edit, one that does not give any email address or other way for outsiders to register. | # (c) a wiki where only the [[Sysop]] and perhaps a few people the Sysop has selected ahead of time can edit, one that does not give any email address or other way for outsiders to register. | ||
''The word "invitation" in "ByInvitation" implies (c). Type (c) and [[:Category: | ''The word "invitation" in "ByInvitation" implies (c). Type (c) and [[:Category:Read-only|Read-only]] wiki are effectively the same, to outsiders like me.'' | ||
''What do I use to tag type (b) wiki?'' | ''What do I use to tag type (b) wiki?'' | ||
''I would like a better name for type (b) wiki. RegisterToEdit, HumanApprovedApplicationToEdit, ... surely there's a better name? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 22:55, 8 December 2006 (EST)'' | ''I would like a better name for type (b) wiki. RegisterToEdit, HumanApprovedApplicationToEdit, ... surely there's a better name? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 22:55, 8 December 2006 (EST)'' | ||
: no, when for example the database is locked at a [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] wiki, I don't think sysops can edit it. (I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong) so when it's | : no, when for example the database is locked at a [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] wiki, I don't think sysops can edit it. (I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong) so when it's Read-only, no one can edit it (I think), but [[:Category:ByInvitation|ByInvitation]] it's editable by eveyone, who been invited. (gee I'm not good at explaining stuff.) – [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 04:53, 9 December 2006 (EST) | ||
:: We discussed all of this a long time ago, and if we didn't document well our thinking at the time, I suppose we're left with David's questions. :-) Let me see if I can describe how I see things. At first, we had many different [[Special:Categories|categories]] then we eventually collapsed down to [[:Category:ByInvitation|ByInvitation]]. Definitely (a) above means [[:Category:LoginToEdit|LoginToEdit]]. I'm almost certain that type (c) would be [[:Category: | :: We discussed all of this a long time ago, and if we didn't document well our thinking at the time, I suppose we're left with David's questions. :-) Let me see if I can describe how I see things. At first, we had many different [[Special:Categories|categories]] then we eventually collapsed down to [[:Category:ByInvitation|ByInvitation]]. Definitely (a) above means [[:Category:LoginToEdit|LoginToEdit]]. I'm almost certain that type (c) would be [[:Category:Read-only|Read-only]] for us, because there's no way to know who's allowed to edit when you come upon a wiki like this. All you can see is that there's no way to edit, no way to login and no way to register or apply for a login. So that's how we've been using Read-only. Smiddle's "lockdown" scenario isn't specifically addressed, but that would be Read-only as well. We're currently using ByInvitation to mean any wiki where you have to register by some publically available means, and a human has to approve you. If that needs some other name, feel free to propose one. That would be fine with me, if ByInvitation isn't cutting it. We discussed it for a long time, but I see no reason to change if there's a term that's more clear. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:51, 9 December 2006 (EST) | ||
::: I think it is wrong for us to tell people "you're not welcome at that wiki", when those people actually are welcome at that wiki. So I want to change "ByInvitation" to some other term. | ::: I think it is wrong for us to tell people "you're not welcome at that wiki", when those people actually are welcome at that wiki. So I want to change "ByInvitation" to some other term. | ||