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<center><h1>'''''30 years of the Wonderful Wiki Web'''''</h1>  
<center><h1><i><b>30 years of the Wonderful Wiki Web</b></i></h1>  
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=== What is already in the works? ===
=== What is already in the works? ===
 
* An open video call - featuring one or more names wiki folk will recognize and want to hear from, *and* with plenty of time (probably in breakout groups if it's a lot of people?) for people to catch up or get to know each other, share some wiki-stories, etcetera. Learn something, connect with someone, and celebrate! (Details to be clarified on Feb 25 planning call)
* An open video call - featuring one or more names wiki folk will recognize and want to hear from, *and* with plenty of time (probably in breakout groups if it's a lot of people?) for people to catch up or get to know each other, share some wiki stories, etc. Learn something, connect with someone, and celebrate! (Details to be clarified on Feb 25 planning call)


* A [[30th_WikiBirthday#WikiBirthdayCard|WikiBirthday card]] that everyone is invited to contribute to.
* A [[30th_WikiBirthday#WikiBirthdayCard|WikiBirthday card]] that everyone is invited to contribute to.


* ''Add other things people are organizing here''
* <i>Add other things people are organizing here</i>


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What else would you like to  see?
What else would you like to  see?


That is a Tuesday. So, we could lean into the '''[[Tech Tuesdays]]''' thing. And/or, March 26 could be a global retro/reunion for '''[[WikiWednesdays]]''', everyone organize whatever they want locally. Suggest we pick one of these early on and go for it.
That is a Tuesday. So, we could lean into the <b>[[Tech Tuesdays]]</b> thing. And/or, March 26 could be a global retro/reunion for <b>[[WikiWednesdays]]</b>, everyone organize whatever they want locally. Suggest we pick one of these early on and go for it.


=== Who's organizing WikiBirthday this year? ===
=== Who's organizing WikiBirthday this year? ===
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=== Themes / Names Explorations ===
=== Themes / Names Explorations ===


'''WonderfulWikiWeb'''
<b>WonderfulWikiWeb</b>


Many people are understandably pretty down on the Internet and web these days, as for-profit companies exploit their attention (and pocketbooks!) with dark patterns. But these tools have also given us so much, and continue to! We want people to notice and love and defend the wonderful things about the Internet, and we're [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgZ86ugijXPUOo_lD3kLfQBPbneecUNzZim1GOgkC1M/ inspired by how the IETF organizes itself], and some of the [https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8890 things they say]. We want people to notice and love and defend the wonderful things about the web, and wiki has brought so much wonder to so many, we see this 30th WikiBirthday as an opportunity to celebrate and share that wonder with each other, and as much as we can with the rest of the world as well.
Many people are understandably pretty down on the internet these days, as for-profit companies exploit their attention (and pocketbooks!) with unseen patterns. But these tools have also given us so much, and continue to! We want people to notice and love and defend the wonderful things about the internet, and we're [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgZ86ugijXPUOo_lD3kLfQBPbneecUNzZim1GOgkC1M/ inspired by how the IETF organizes itself], and some of the [https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8890 things they say]. We want people to notice and love and defend the wonderful things about the internet, and wiki has brought so much wonder to so many, we see this 30th WikiBirthday as an opportunity to celebrate and share that wonder with each other, and as much as we can with the rest of the world as well.


Wiki: A way of thinking about and practicing collaborative in an increasingly factious world
Wiki: A way of thinking about and practicing collaborative in an increasingly factious world
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[[File:Rccchart.jpg|thumb|ideas from Recent Changes Camp 2008, photo by Jay Walsh [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rccchart.jpg]]]
[[File:Rccchart.jpg|thumb|ideas from Recent Changes Camp 2008, photo by Jay Walsh [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rccchart.jpg]]]


* After a few days intensively focused on reading & writing in the new-to-me WikiWikiWebs in 1998(?), I knew my experience of the web had changed forever when I saw an error on some other website '''and was confused when I couldn't find the edit button'''. I had internalized that the web is editable! Wiki became part of my ongoing life, as with [[Open Space]]. What makes a wiki a wiki is an amazing conversation to get to be a part of, especially as it becomes clear that there is almost no agreed-upon list of core features. For some, collaboration among people is central, while for others a personal wiki is still a wiki, for some the naming dimension is immense, for others, it's a sideline. Are structured wikis still wikis? It depends? "What is a wiki?" quickly (over a period of years) became one of those questions that will never have a definitive answer. I believe that the web, and the world, will be endlessly grateful it was Ward and other early wiki folks who put hypertext on the map of the early web, a space of many ecosystems that wiki continues to inhabit and grow into. In any case, HippoBirdieToYou on your 30th birthday, wiki. --[[User:John Abbe|John Abbe]] ([[User talk:John Abbe|talk]]) 19:02, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
* After a few days intensively focused on reading & writing in the new-to-me WikiWikiWebs in 1998(?), I knew my experience of the web had changed forever when I saw an error on some other website <b>and was confused when I couldn't find the edit button</b>. I had internalized that the web is editable! Wiki became part of my ongoing life, as with [[Open Space]]. What makes a wiki a wiki is an amazing conversation to get to be a part of, especially as it becomes clear that there is almost no agreed-upon list of core features. For some, collaboration among people is central, while for others a personal wiki is still a wiki, for some the naming dimension is immense, for others, it's a sideline. Are structured wikis still wikis? It depends? "What is a wiki?" quickly (over a period of years) became one of those questions that will never have a definitive answer. I believe that the web, and the world, will be endlessly grateful it was Ward and other early wiki folks who put hypertext on the map of the early web, a space of many ecosystems that wiki continues to inhabit and grow into. In any case, HippoBirdieToYou on your 30th birthday, wiki. --[[User:John Abbe|John Abbe]] ([[User talk:John Abbe|talk]]) 19:02, 19 February 2025 (UTC)


* Thank you, Ward, for so many life changing innovations! Keep on hacking, [[User:Dirk Riehle|Dirk Riehle]] ([[User talk:Dirk Riehle|talk]]) 20:02, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
* Thank you, Ward, for so many life changing innovations! Keep on hacking, [[User:Dirk Riehle|Dirk Riehle]] ([[User talk:Dirk Riehle|talk]]) 20:02, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
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* Discovering Wikipedia, MeatBall, and the original Portland Pattern Repository WikiWikiWeb in 2001 definitely was a turning point in my life. :) I spent many many hours poring over the collected wisdom of other programmers about how we program, and tried to realize those insights in the tools I created for Wikipedia editors to use. I'm astounded and immensely pleased *and* proud that wikis are still around years later and running strong in a lot of core knowledge-sharing niches! We've done well, collectively, but we can do better: we can make richer interactivity, easier-to-use tooling for communication and data structuring, and stronger programming-oriented tools for the complex niche tasks. It's my great hope that wikis will continue to evolve and fill that knowledge-sharing niche with "the human touch" in a world that isn't sure who they can trust anymore. --[[User:Brooke Vibber|Brooke Vibber]] ([[User talk:Brooke Vibber|talk]]) 16:49, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
* Discovering Wikipedia, MeatBall, and the original Portland Pattern Repository WikiWikiWeb in 2001 definitely was a turning point in my life. :) I spent many many hours poring over the collected wisdom of other programmers about how we program, and tried to realize those insights in the tools I created for Wikipedia editors to use. I'm astounded and immensely pleased *and* proud that wikis are still around years later and running strong in a lot of core knowledge-sharing niches! We've done well, collectively, but we can do better: we can make richer interactivity, easier-to-use tooling for communication and data structuring, and stronger programming-oriented tools for the complex niche tasks. It's my great hope that wikis will continue to evolve and fill that knowledge-sharing niche with "the human touch" in a world that isn't sure who they can trust anymore. --[[User:Brooke Vibber|Brooke Vibber]] ([[User talk:Brooke Vibber|talk]]) 16:49, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
* Ward, I was glad to meet you at a Wikipedia meetup. I, too, have been a fellow traveler on the Wiki-Wiki shuttle, but more importantly I am a fervent editor on several Wikis that run on the descendants of the software that you developed. Thank you for changing our lives!  [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 16:53, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
* Ward, I was glad to meet you at a Wikipedia meetup. I, too, have been a fellow traveller on the Wiki-Wiki shuttle, but more importantly I am a fervent editor on several Wikis that run on the descendants of the software that you developed. Thank you for changing our lives!  [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 16:53, 25 March 2025 (UTC)


* The concept of a wiki is so simple that it's bound to fail - right? How can we trust people to just show up to a website, and improve it? And yet, somehow we made it work by making it easier to do the right thing, than to mess it up. It turned out to be a valuable addition to a set of publishing models, one that enables communities to really work together effectively. And communities, that is what has driven a lot of the valuable content of the internet. Just imagine we would have to depend on companies to provide everything, if everything would need to abide by business models. Wiki's are not for everyone, but the people that run with it, are my kind of people. Thank you for providing the spark that brought these fun and interesting people together! [[User:Effeietsanders|Effeietsanders]] ([[User talk:Effeietsanders|talk]]) 17:31, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
* The concept of a wiki is so simple that it's bound to fail - right? How can we trust people to just show up to a website, and improve it? And yet, somehow we made it work by making it easier to do the right thing, than to mess it up. It turned out to be a valuable addition to a set of publishing models, one that enables communities to really work together effectively. And communities, that is what has driven a lot of the valuable content of the internet. Just imagine we would have to depend on companies to provide everything, if everything would need to abide by business models. Wiki's are not for everyone, but the people that run with it, are my kind of people. Thank you for providing the spark that brought these fun and interesting people together! [[User:Effeietsanders|Effeietsanders]] ([[User talk:Effeietsanders|talk]]) 17:31, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
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* Wikis are amazing and I love them all ! Thank you Ward and everyone involved in those early discussions and creations for a fabulous philosophy for free collaboration and information for everyone. - Liz Henry aka geeklizzard
* Wikis are amazing and I love them all ! Thank you Ward and everyone involved in those early discussions and creations for a fabulous philosophy for free collaboration and information for everyone. - Liz Henry aka geeklizzard


* Wikis are the true Internet. Accept no substitutes. Thank you to Ward and everyone who had enough faith in humanity to let us help each other out. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Mxn|Mxn]] ([[User talk:Mxn|talk]]) 00:09, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
* Wikis are the true internet. Accept no substitutes. Thank you to Ward and everyone who had enough faith in humanity to let us help each other out. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Mxn|Mxn]] ([[User talk:Mxn|talk]]) 00:09, 26 March 2025 (UTC)


* Thank you for being, wiki. My friends at http://monochrom.at heard of wikis first in about 2001 and we hosted one to collaboratively design a card game. Once down the rabbit hole, the possibilities were endless. I combined wikis with the semantic web and desktops and started coding personal semantic wikis in 2003 and the semantic desktop, resulting in nepomuk.kde.org 2009. I and others failed to keep this alive, which left a hole. Others did fantastic things with petsonal wikis, like http://www.plomlompom.de/PlomWiki/plomwiki.php . In a wiki, words become pages, sentences connections. Retrieval of knowledge feels more like walking, navigating. An externalized companion to the associative thinking some humans enjoy. A "Denkwerkzeug". I believe the combination of knowlege graps (semantic web/schema.org/rdf/sparql,...) and wikis enabled me connecting my own thoughts with yours. Do you? [[User:Leobard|Leobard]] ([[User talk:Leobard|talk]]) 07:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
* Thank you for being, wiki. My friends at http://monochrom.at heard of wikis first in about 2001 and we hosted one to collaboratively design a card game. Once down the rabbit hole, the possibilities were endless. I combined wikis with the semantic web and desktops and started coding personal semantic wikis in 2003 and the semantic desktop, resulting in nepomuk.kde.org 2009. I and others failed to keep this alive, which left a hole. Others did fantastic things with petsonal wikis, like http://www.plomlompom.de/PlomWiki/plomwiki.php . In a wiki, words become pages, sentences connections. Retrieval of knowledge feels more like walking, navigating. An externalized companion to the associative thinking some humans enjoy. A "Denkwerkzeug". I believe the combination of knowlege graps (semantic web/schema.org/rdf/sparql,...) and wikis enabled me connecting my own thoughts with yours. Do you? [[User:Leobard|Leobard]] ([[User talk:Leobard|talk]]) 07:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

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