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== footer/inline ==
If you do it this way with that footer, then we don't need the tag template at all.  We just put the categories in anywhere on the page.  The tag template is only used when we want the category to show up on the page, the way John's been talking about.  peace, [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 21:32, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)
If you do it this way with that footer, then we don't need the tag template at all.  We just put the categories in anywhere on the page.  The tag template is only used when we want the category to show up on the page, the way John's been talking about.  peace, [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 21:32, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)


Yes, that's right, use tag or category template when you want it to show in the article in addition to the bottom category section, else normal category command is fine --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 17:34, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)
Yes, that's right, use tag or category template when you want it to show in the article in addition to the bottom category section, else normal category command is fine --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 17:34, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)
==Difference between tag and category==
==Difference between tag and category==
Is there any? [[User:Robin Patterson|robinp]] 17:14, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)
Is there any? [[User:Robin Patterson|robinp]] 17:14, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)
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No, in this wiki "tag" is a synonym for "category" and the "tag" and "category" templates are the same.  We did that because "category" sounds heirarchical whereas "tag" is not.  "tag" is also shorter and easier to use.  But I am concerned that the extra confusion isn't worth it and we should just stick to category since that's the mediawiki standard.  Thoughts welcome --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 17:34, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)
No, in this wiki "tag" is a synonym for "category" and the "tag" and "category" templates are the same.  We did that because "category" sounds heirarchical whereas "tag" is not.  "tag" is also shorter and easier to use.  But I am concerned that the extra confusion isn't worth it and we should just stick to category since that's the mediawiki standard.  Thoughts welcome --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 17:34, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)


: It turns out tha Tags and Categories act diffently in some situations. Look at their use within the "Category:" namespace. MarkDilley | talk
: Ray, I'm not sure I agreeIn fact, I'd like to propose we get rid of the category template to better differentiate between inline tags (using the tag template) and mediawiki categories (using the category function) that only show up in the footer. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 22:40, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
:: What?  How are they different?  The templates are identical.  Maybe we're needlessly confusing things by our naming. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:44, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
: You and I had the experience of them working differently within a category.  If you change them within a category you will see that they are or are not in the automated category bar at the bottom of the page.  Also I thought they were an issue for the recursive issue? [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
 
:: I don't think so.  [[Template:Tag]] and [[Template:Category]] are exactly the sameThey're both just sorthand for
 
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[[:Category:TAGNAME|TAGNAME]] [[Category:TAGNAME]]
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:: [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 16:00, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
:: I'm thinking we should eliminate the term "tag" altogether to cut down on confusion.  I think it's birth was my fault :-( --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 16:52, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
::: Fine with me. Here's what I discovered about what Mark's talking about: [[Category talk:Lizzy]] [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:28, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)


== tag/category news ==
== tag/category news ==
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