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it is [[:Category:GreatFeature]] - Best,  [[MarkDilley]]
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==PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI==
==[{{{inactive}}}]==
She has not made one useful edit, [http://www.wikiindex.org/User:Patricia_Martellotti her first userpage had a link to her website] while later edits [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:PATRICIA_MARTELLOTTI&oldid=66673 just say how good she thinks she is].  I don't think she's interested in helping us, she just uses us to advertise herself. There's [[User:Patricia Martellotti]] with a link to her website and [[User:PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI]] who wrote loads of stuff about her qualifications.   
She has not made one useful edit, [http://www.wikiindex.org/User:Patricia_Martellotti her first userpage had a link to her website] while later edits [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=&oldid=66673 just say how good she thinks she is].  I don't think she's interested in helping us, she just uses us to advertise herself. There's [[User:Patricia Martellotti]] with a link to her website and []] who wrote loads of stuff about her qualifications.   


I think I may have made a mistake and thought she edited the Welcome page telling people about herself. I've looked at recent changes again and I think I mixed her edits up with someone else as in fact someone else edited the Welcome Template responsibly just before she edited, sorry. Let's leave her unblocked and see what she does. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:26, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
I think I may have made a mistake and thought she edited the Welcome page telling people about herself. I've looked at recent changes again and I think I mixed her edits up with someone else as in fact someone else edited the Welcome Template responsibly just before she edited, sorry. Let's leave her unblocked and see what she does. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:26, 8 June 2009 (EDT)


You deal with [[User:PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI]] if anything needs to be done, she's back today. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 16:54, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
You deal with [[]] if anything needs to be done, she's back today. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 16:54, 9 June 2009 (EDT)


[[User:PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI]] is writing more and more about herself but [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/Patricia_Martellotti hasn't made a useful contribution].  I see now [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=53873 she did edit the welcome template] with one of her accounts so I think a block was fair. She hasn't repeated it but since I know now that she did spam the welcome template I've put warnings onto the talk pages of both her accounts so any administrator who deals with her can see she's been warned. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:30, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
[[User:]] is writing more and more about herself but [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/hasn't made a useful contribution].  I see now [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=53873 she did edit the welcome template] with one of her accounts so I think a block was fair. She hasn't repeated it but since I know now that she did spam the welcome template I've put warnings onto the talk pages of both her accounts so any administrator who deals with her can see she's been warned. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:30, 16 June 2009 (EDT)


[[User:PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI]] now claims that she's new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.  I don't know if she's telling the truth and really mistook us for a social networking site or if she's playing sophisticated games and pretending she's been hurt.  [[User:Elassint]] put a message up with large letters saying, '''"Please note that we are an index of wiki, wiki people and wiki ideas, contributions outside of that scope may be treated as test edits and be removed."''' and she can't have edited any page without the chance to see that message.  Well sometimes people do overlook the obvious.  [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:PATRICIA_MARTELLOTTI&oldid=66842 I've apologized and explained what we're for]. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:18, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
[[Use] now claims that she's new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.  I don't know if she's telling the truth and really mistook us for a social networking site or if she's playing sophisticated games and pretending she's been hurt.  [[User:Elassint]] put a message up with large letters saying, '''"Please note that we are an index of wiki, wiki people and wiki ideas, contributions outside of that scope may be treated as test edits and be removed."''' and she can't have edited any page without the chance to see that message.  Well sometimes people do overlook the obvious.  [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talkoldid=66842 I've apologized and explained what we're for]. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:18, 17 June 2009 (EDT)


:She's sent me an email asking for all traces of her to disappear. I think that can be done. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 01:01, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:She's sent me an email asking for all traces of her to disappear. I think that can be done. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 01:01, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
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:: What I'm seeing diverges so strongly from the above description that it makes me think I'm missing half the story.
:: What I'm seeing diverges so strongly from the above description that it makes me think I'm missing half the story.
:: As far as I can tell by looking at the "User contributions" pages, this person has never made an active link, which is consistent with the "new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.", and inconsistent with "Spamming links to external sites".
:: As far as I can tell by looking at the "User contributions" pages, this person has never made an active link, which is consistent with the "new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.", and inconsistent with "Spamming links to external sites".
:: As far as I can tell, she has posted only one URL one time (but without the WikiSyntax to make it active), and that one URL was on her user page (which has already been deleted, so normal users can't see that URL) -- far fewer than a typical spammer, and even fewer than the number of URLs at [[User:Proxima Centauri]], fewer than the number of URLs that Proxima Centauri posted to her user page [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:PATRICIA_MARTELLOTTI&diff=prev&oldid=66674].
:: As far as I can tell, she has posted only one URL one time (but without the WikiSyntax to make it active), and that one URL was on her user page (which has already been deleted, so normal users can't see that URL) -- far fewer than a typical spammer, and even fewer than the number of URLs at [[User:Proxima Centauri]], fewer than the number of URLs that Proxima Centauri posted to her user page [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=I&diff=prev&oldid=66674].
:: As far as I can tell, her later edits seem to be listing verifiable information about where she has worked to her user page, which seems similar to the way the [[User:Proxima Centauri]] page lists some of the other wiki he has worked on. I fail to see any claims that she was "good" at any of them, or any information about what she "thinks".
:: As far as I can tell, her later edits seem to be listing verifiable information about where she has worked to her user page, which seems similar to the way the [[User:Proxima Centauri]] page lists some of the other wiki he has worked on. I fail to see any claims that she was "good" at any of them, or any information about what she "thinks".
:: As far as I can tell, this person has made only a couple of edits before 8 June 2009, and none of her edits include any WikiSyntax formatting. This is consistent with the "new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.".
:: As far as I can tell, this person has made only a couple of edits before 8 June 2009, and none of her edits include any WikiSyntax formatting. This is consistent with the "new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.".
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:::What I gathered from a very brief email correspondence is that she googled herself, her page here came up pretty high, and she realized the newbie-ness of it has the potential for some embarrassment. Being a public figure I suppose you can't ever be too careful about what you have out there. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 02:24, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
:::What I gathered from a very brief email correspondence is that she googled herself, her page here came up pretty high, and she realized the newbie-ness of it has the potential for some embarrassment. Being a public figure I suppose you can't ever be too careful about what you have out there. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 02:24, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Just found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Patricia_Martellotti this]. Looks like this isn't the first time this has happened. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 02:29, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Just found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Patricia_Martellotti this]. Looks like this isn't the first time this has happened. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 02:29, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Thanks for digging that up.  I had the feeling that she was playing some game, eg when I tried to apologise she just got more upset. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patricia_Martellotti She vandalized Wikipedia] as well and is permanently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3APatricia+Martellotti blocked] there for troublemaking. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 05:16, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Thanks for digging that up.  I had the feeling that she was playing some game, eg when I tried to apologise she just got more upset. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patricia_Martellotti She vandalized Wikipedia] as well and is permanently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3 there for troublemaking. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 05:16, 23 June 2009 (EDT)


:::::I've recreated her userpage because I'm fed up of the way she got me into trouble and if [[User:Sean Fennel|Sean Fennel]] hadn’t tracked her down to Wikipedia she’d have got away with some of it.  I feel she’s intelligent and deceitful and we should warn people about her.  If other administrator disagree with me for recreating her page please delete it again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:41, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::I've recreated her userpage because I'm fed up of the way she got me into trouble and if [[User:Sean Fennel|Sean Fennel]] hadn’t tracked her down to Wikipedia she’d have got away with some of it.  I feel she’s intelligent and deceitful and we should warn people about her.  If other administrator disagree with me for recreating her page please delete it again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:41, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
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:::::: May I ask which of these 3 things was something "deceitful" that we don't want her to "get away with"? Or is there something else I'm missing? The (1) was wrong, but a common newbie mistake and arguably not "deceitful" -- and there's no chance that she would have gotten away with in 2009 since it was reverted soon after it happened in 2008 -- and apparently she's learned from that, since she hasn't done that in over a year. I fail to see how (2) or (3) even merit a block, much less a permanent page criticizing her without balance. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 03:21, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::: May I ask which of these 3 things was something "deceitful" that we don't want her to "get away with"? Or is there something else I'm missing? The (1) was wrong, but a common newbie mistake and arguably not "deceitful" -- and there's no chance that she would have gotten away with in 2009 since it was reverted soon after it happened in 2008 -- and apparently she's learned from that, since she hasn't done that in over a year. I fail to see how (2) or (3) even merit a block, much less a permanent page criticizing her without balance. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 03:21, 14 July 2009 (EDT)


This user has caused problems on [[Wikipedia]] where her [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Patricia_Martellotti user page] was blanked for spamming and her [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Patricia_Martellotti talk page] was also deleted.  She [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patricia_Martellotti vandalized] Wikipedia and is permanently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3APatricia+Martellotti blocked] there.  When she was here she played the same games and pretended she was naive though she knew what had happened at Wikipedia.  She says the accusations are false though anyone who folows the links can see that they are true.  I call that deceit and it's a bit unrealistic as anyone can follow the links and find out the truth.  I overlooked that the edit to the Welcome template was [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/PATRICIA_MARTELLOTTI last year] sorry, still I feel she was oversensitive when I warmed her.  She seems interested in self promotion and complaining and uninterested in editing constructively though '''constructive editors are allowed a little self promotion on their userpages'''.   
This user has caused problems on [[Wikipedia]] where her [http://en.wikipedia.org/ user page] was blanked for spamming and her [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:] was also deleted.  She [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions Wikipedia and is permanently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%ed] there.  When she was here she played the same games and pretended she was naive though she knew what had happened at Wikipedia.  She says the accusations are false though anyone who folows the links can see that they are true.  I call that deceit and it's a bit unrealistic as anyone can follow the links and find out the truth.  I overlooked that the edit to the Welcome template was [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributionsast year] sorry, still I feel she was oversensitive when I warmed her.  She seems interested in self promotion and complaining and uninterested in editing constructively though '''constructive editors are allowed a little self promotion on their userpages'''.   


I agree it doesn't merit a page of permanent criticism and have deleted criticism after a week or so.  Is there any I overlooked?  [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:00, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
I agree it doesn't merit a page of permanent criticism and have deleted criticism after a week or so.  Is there any I overlooked?  [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:00, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
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