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:::::::::::::::::[After article was moved to talk page.] Okay I just wanna nip this in the butt. Before anybody says, "Oh my Gosh! Lumenos is a prophet! Or ey must have been in on the whole thing! Let me assure you this is uuh as far as '''I''' know, just a coincidence. 08:16, 6 September 2009 (EDT) [updated statement [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:33, 10 September 2009 (EDT)]
:::::::::::::::::[After article was moved to talk page.] Okay I just wanna nip this in the butt. Before anybody says, "Oh my Gosh! Lumenos is a prophet! Or ey must have been in on the whole thing! Let me assure you this is uuh as far as '''I''' know, just a coincidence. 08:16, 6 September 2009 (EDT) [updated statement [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:33, 10 September 2009 (EDT)]
::::::::::::::::::I guess perhaps I may have gotten the idea into my subconscious by reading Dilley's plan to do this. I think I read it before, but I'm not sure... I know what you are thinking, "My the vanity!" And why are you reading? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:33, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::I guess perhaps I may have gotten the idea into my subconscious by reading Dilley's plan to do this. I think I read it before, but I'm not sure... I know what you are thinking, "My the vanity!" And why are you reading? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:33, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
==Huw Powel removed four similar wikis from the RationalWiki article==
(Note, this is the last edit before they were all moved to the talk pages. Coincidence?)
[[User_talk:Huw_Powell#Removing_four_similar_wikis_from_the_RationalWiki_article|I have inquired as to how this is helping WikiIndex, on his talk page]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 12:31, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
:How were they "similar", apart from being wikis? An encyclopedia; RW is not.  A parody of a conservative encyclopedia, RW is not; what were the other two?  An atheism wiki?  RW is not. ??? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 22:14, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
::Do you have a brain tumor or is the cat walking on your keyboard? They have similar content, OBVIOUSLY. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 01:39, 10 September 2009 (EDT) (I'm not really as frustrated as I sound, I only talk like this to Huw because that is how he talks to everyone else. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 01:50, 10 September 2009 (EDT) )
''See also is for related things. Categories are for similar things. Only those wikis that are actually related (besides Proxima Centauri having an account on all of them) should be listed on see also. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 15:04, 9 September 2009 (EDT)'' (quote by Lumenos)
:I'll change the section title to "Similar wikis". [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 01:50, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
::Since you managed to wikilawyer yourself out of my definition, let me rephrase that. Similar wikis should be listed in categories, related wikis should be in the article, either in the text or in the See also section.
:::Lumenos, please provide a reason for reverting my edit other than "we don't do it like wikipedia because I say so". I have given a reason for my removal of those wikis: they can be found in the categories. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 03:46, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
::::My, one could easily think that were a quote you were making there, which would mean it was a misquote. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:36, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
::::I guess we got this all straitened out now? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:38, 10 September 2009 (EDT)


== Criticism and rebuttals ==
== Criticism and rebuttals ==
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:::::::::::::When you post as an IP address, "we" know less about how much your opinion should matter. Are you someone who has been involved in this? Are you gonna stick around if you get your way? Are you representing someone sympathetic to this wiki or someone looking for a wiki? Is your opinion biased? Do you represent our "target audience"? Why should we care what you write? (I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't care.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 19:37, 7 September 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::::When you post as an IP address, "we" know less about how much your opinion should matter. Are you someone who has been involved in this? Are you gonna stick around if you get your way? Are you representing someone sympathetic to this wiki or someone looking for a wiki? Is your opinion biased? Do you represent our "target audience"? Why should we care what you write? (I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't care.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 19:37, 7 September 2009 (EDT)
:Huw, [[User_talk:This_is_not_the_solution#Thanks_to_everyone_for_the_cooling_off_-_here_is_my_idea_on_how_to_move_through_this.|Dilley made the proposal while most of us involved in these conflicts, kinda ignored it, until now]]. I would think it would be in the interest of WikiIndex to provide more warning or instructions for how we might have avoided this. But I tried to get people interested in [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines|developing policy]], and, as you have said, few were interested in this besides me and Proxima (oh yeah, and Dilley ;-). When you got no rules you don't know how to avoid unpleasant rulings. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 19:28, 7 September 2009 (EDT)
:Huw, [[User_talk:This_is_not_the_solution#Thanks_to_everyone_for_the_cooling_off_-_here_is_my_idea_on_how_to_move_through_this.|Dilley made the proposal while most of us involved in these conflicts, kinda ignored it, until now]]. I would think it would be in the interest of WikiIndex to provide more warning or instructions for how we might have avoided this. But I tried to get people interested in [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines|developing policy]], and, as you have said, few were interested in this besides me and Proxima (oh yeah, and Dilley ;-). When you got no rules you don't know how to avoid unpleasant rulings. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 19:28, 7 September 2009 (EDT)
===Huw Powel removed four similar wikis from the RationalWiki article===
(Note, this is the last edit before they were all moved to the talk pages. Coincidence?)
[[User_talk:Huw_Powell#Removing_four_similar_wikis_from_the_RationalWiki_article|I have inquired as to how this is helping WikiIndex, on his talk page]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 12:31, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
:How were they "similar", apart from being wikis? An encyclopedia; RW is not.  A parody of a conservative encyclopedia, RW is not; what were the other two?  An atheism wiki?  RW is not. ??? [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 22:14, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
::Do you have a brain tumor or is the cat walking on your keyboard? They have similar content, OBVIOUSLY. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 01:39, 10 September 2009 (EDT) (I'm not really as frustrated as I sound, I only talk like this to Huw because that is how he talks to everyone else. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 01:50, 10 September 2009 (EDT) )
''See also is for related things. Categories are for similar things. Only those wikis that are actually related (besides Proxima Centauri having an account on all of them) should be listed on see also. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 15:04, 9 September 2009 (EDT)'' (quote by Lumenos)
:I'll change the section title to "Similar wikis". [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 01:50, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
::Since you managed to wikilawyer yourself out of my definition, let me rephrase that. Similar wikis should be listed in categories, related wikis should be in the article, either in the text or in the See also section.
:::Lumenos, please provide a reason for reverting my edit other than "we don't do it like wikipedia because I say so". I have given a reason for my removal of those wikis: they can be found in the categories. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 03:46, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
::::My, one could easily think that were a quote you were making there, which would mean it was a misquote. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:36, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
::::I guess we got this all straitened out now? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:38, 10 September 2009 (EDT)


== Service outage <s>half</s> over. ==
== Service outage <s>half</s> over. ==
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