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All policies should denote what type of enforcement is appropriate for the policy. Here are some suggested "categories of enforcement" against editor's violations of policy:
All policies should denote what type of enforcement is appropriate for the policy. Here are some suggested "categories of enforcement" against editor's violations of policy:
====Editor's powers====
====Editor's powers====
:*'''Etiquette:''' Guide to help polite people to be polite. Does not imply any enforcement. (You may edit this page.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)  
*'''Etiquette:''' Guide to help polite people to be polite. Does not imply any enforcement. (You may edit this page.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)  
::But the real etiquette page is [[WikiIndex:Editing_etiquette|here]]. Dilley has [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex%3AEditing_etiquette&diff=70385&oldid=70231 edited the etiquette guideline now]. You could perhaps edit that one, but it is more official now, I'd say. For example, Dilley deleted my edit of it. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:36, 12 September 2009 (EDT)  
:But the real etiquette page is [[WikiIndex:Editing_etiquette|here]]. Dilley has [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex%3AEditing_etiquette&diff=70385&oldid=70231 edited the etiquette guideline now]. You could perhaps edit that one, but it is more official now, I'd say. For example, Dilley deleted my edit of it. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:36, 12 September 2009 (EDT)  
:* '''Tag:''' Placing "warning tags" on info that is dubious, impolite, etc. What categories of info warrants this? You could alternatively change the information (without deleting or reverting). ~~ [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]
* '''Tag:''' Placing "warning tags" on info that is dubious, impolite, etc. What categories of info warrants this? You could alternatively change the information (without deleting or reverting). ~~ [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]
::* Warning tags are too strong - I like the idea of tags and think they should point to constructive information. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:* Warning tags are too strong - I like the idea of tags and think they should point to constructive information. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:::* I agree. ~~ [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]
::* I agree. ~~ [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]
:::* Err um ([[User_talk:This_is_not_the_solution#Thanks_to_everyone_for_the_cooling_off_-_here_is_my_idea_on_how_to_move_through_this.|then Dilley moved a few wikis to their talk pages without so much as a warning tag on them]]). (See "Protect page", then, "Relocating an article about a wiki, to the talk page and locking the article".) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
::* Err um ([[User_talk:This_is_not_the_solution#Thanks_to_everyone_for_the_cooling_off_-_here_is_my_idea_on_how_to_move_through_this.|then Dilley moved a few wikis to their talk pages without so much as a warning tag on them]]). (See "Protect page", then, "Relocating an article about a wiki, to the talk page and locking the article".) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
:* '''Labeling opponents:''' Some terms [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] suggests you might try:
* '''Labeling opponents:''' Some terms [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] suggests you might try:
::* Troll, for example [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Concern_troll#Concern_troll concern troll] (see [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:Nx&oldid=71273]). [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
:* Troll, for example [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Concern_troll#Concern_troll concern troll] (see [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:Nx&oldid=71273]). [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
::* [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cyberstalker Cyberstalker] (see [[User_talk:Lumenos#More_about_Rpeh|A web search on "Rpeh"]]) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
:* [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cyberstalker Cyberstalker] (see [[User_talk:Lumenos#More_about_Rpeh|A web search on "Rpeh"]]) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
::* [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikilawyering Wikilawyer] (see [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
:* [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikilawyering Wikilawyer] (see [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
::(Note, if I were labeling Lumenos, I'd probably go with more traditional labels such as: paranoid, delusional, arrogant fumbling buffoon, etc. :-) I luvz the wikis cause I can go back and fix all me retardations, but let me assure you, they are not exactly intentional. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:21, 12 September 2009 (EDT) )
:(Note, if I were labeling Lumenos, I'd probably go with more traditional labels such as: paranoid, delusional, arrogant fumbling buffoon, etc. :-) I luvz the wikis cause I can go back and fix all me retardations, but let me assure you, they are not exactly intentional. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:21, 12 September 2009 (EDT) )
::But in all seriousness I think it much more precise and constructive, to label specific statements using tags or quotes, rather than labeling editors. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:06, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
:But in all seriousness I think it much more precise and constructive, to label specific statements using tags or quotes, rather than labeling editors. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:06, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
:*'''Pointy edits:''' Making edits that are designed to be temporary, to prove a point. This could not possibly be a form of trolling because [[User_talk:Lumenos#Nx_do_you_not_want_people_to_know_what_you_are_doing_here.3F|Nx did it (-; (see 4th post down)]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)  
*'''Pointy edits:''' Making edits that are designed to be temporary, to prove a point. This could not possibly be a form of trolling because [[User_talk:Lumenos#Nx_do_you_not_want_people_to_know_what_you_are_doing_here.3F|Nx did it (-; (see 4th post down)]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)  
:*'''Edit sparring:''' Some wikis consider it "edit warring" and baaaad to undo edits. [Since so few are interested in policy development] Lumenos suggest Wikipedias "three revert rule", as a matter of etiquette. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:16, 12 September 2009 (EDT)[Update [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:50, 12 September 2009 (EDT)]
*'''Edit sparring:''' Some wikis consider it "edit warring" and baaaad to undo edits. [Since so few are interested in policy development] Lumenos suggest Wikipedias "three revert rule", as a matter of etiquette. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 07:16, 12 September 2009 (EDT)[Update [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:50, 12 September 2009 (EDT)]
::*'''Edit conflicts:''' Posting a rough draft fast, then making corrections to an article someone else is likely to be trying to edit, which cause them edit conflicts. (May or may not be "intentional".) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:00, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
:*'''Edit conflicts:''' Posting a rough draft fast, then making corrections to an article someone else is likely to be trying to edit, which cause them edit conflicts. (May or may not be "intentional".) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:00, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
:* '''Relocate:'''  
* '''Relocate:'''  
::* See "Protect page", then, "Relocating an article about a wiki, to the talk page and locking the article".
:* See "Protect page", then, "Relocating an article about a wiki, to the talk page and locking the article".
::*'''Relocating talk page comments:''' I propose to relocate comments, for example, [[User_talk:MarkDilley#The_lunatics_have_taken_over_the_asylum.|"attention whoring" on Dilley's talk page]]. That means, for example, making no meaningful request and providing no useful information; just being snarky. Relocate these to one of the editors' talk pages. This seems to be a "problem" with editor who have been blocked from editing here before. Maybe it is fun for us, but that really isn't the place for I to be tickling me hobgoblin. That is, unless the administration would prefer we do these things on Dilley's page. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 08:03, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
:*'''Relocating talk page comments:''' I propose to relocate comments, for example, [[User_talk:MarkDilley#The_lunatics_have_taken_over_the_asylum.|"attention whoring" on Dilley's talk page]]. That means, for example, making no meaningful request and providing no useful information; just being snarky. Relocate these to one of the editors' talk pages. This seems to be a "problem" with editor who have been blocked from editing here before. Maybe it is fun for us, but that really isn't the place for I to be tickling me hobgoblin. That is, unless the administration would prefer we do these things on Dilley's page. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 08:03, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
:* '''Eventual deletion:''' What categories of info should be deleted eventually, if the warning tags are ignored?
* '''Eventual deletion:''' What categories of info should be deleted eventually, if the warning tags are ignored?
:* '''Request or alert:''' Tell the violator of the policy about your perception and reasoning. This could be done on their talk page or on the talk page of articles.
* '''Request or alert:''' Tell the violator of the policy about your perception and reasoning. This could be done on their talk page or on the talk page of articles.
:* '''Speedy deletion'''
* '''Speedy deletion'''


====Administrative powers====
====Administrative powers====
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