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== Time to end this war == | == Time to end this war == | ||
[The following two paragraphs are a reply to Phantom Hoover's comment, [[User_talk:Phantom_Hoover#Please_don.27t_reignite_the_edit_war|here]]. It was moved by Felix. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:32, 24 September 2009 (EDT)] | |||
::An anonymous editor [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=71909&oldid=71828 claimed that they had proven a number of things]. Without deleting this, I posted the '''fact''' that I had cited Wikipedia policy and given an example to make my case, and that none of this was done by the opposition, in their "rebuttals". This apparently was too "controversial" as well, so [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=71935&oldid=71909 Phantom Hooover reverted to the version with all their unsubstantiated claims]. Now he has deleted the criticism for maybe the 8th time, on the grounds that [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=71952&oldid=71948 I hadn't responded to Huw], when [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ARationalWiki&diff=71950&oldid=71805 in fact I had, at that time]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:53, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | ::An anonymous editor [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=71909&oldid=71828 claimed that they had proven a number of things]. Without deleting this, I posted the '''fact''' that I had cited Wikipedia policy and given an example to make my case, and that none of this was done by the opposition, in their "rebuttals". This apparently was too "controversial" as well, so [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=71935&oldid=71909 Phantom Hooover reverted to the version with all their unsubstantiated claims]. Now he has deleted the criticism for maybe the 8th time, on the grounds that [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=71952&oldid=71948 I hadn't responded to Huw], when [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ARationalWiki&diff=71950&oldid=71805 in fact I had, at that time]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:53, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
::There are a many here who are sympathetic to RationalWiki, but not many who are sympathetic to WikiIndex having critical reviews. If I make up for this imbalance, then I am accused of domination. It becomes a lot of work when editors like Phantom Hoover and Huw Powel, are allowed to delete things and require others to rewrite them, when they put little effort into editing or real debate. Bob M is much more reasonable and Nx was at least as reasonable as I am. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:53, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | ::There are a many here who are sympathetic to RationalWiki, but not many who are sympathetic to WikiIndex having critical reviews. If I make up for this imbalance, then I am accused of domination. It becomes a lot of work when editors like Phantom Hoover and Huw Powel, are allowed to delete things and require others to rewrite them, when they put little effort into editing or real debate. Bob M is much more reasonable and Nx was at least as reasonable as I am. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:53, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
Lumenos... look. You came to Phantom Hoover's talk page, you posted more in one edit than the entire discussion between me and him, all while ignoring the message I left on ''your'' talk page. Does that sound reasonable to you? [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 15:38, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | Lumenos... look. You came to Phantom Hoover's talk page, you posted more in one edit than the entire discussion between me and him, all while ignoring the message I left on ''your'' talk page. Does that sound reasonable to you? [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 15:38, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:I suppose that could be what you were calling, "giving in to provocation". I'm still learning your ideals on this. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:32, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
Seriously, I want to find a real, peaceful solution to this, and you're making it really hard. Both you and Phantom Hoover seem to have an obsession with RationalWiki. Why aren't you battling over there? I'll remind you there are thousands of other wikis listed on this site, and none of the others has generated such controversy. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 15:56, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | Seriously, I want to find a real, peaceful solution to this, and you're making it really hard. Both you and Phantom Hoover seem to have an obsession with RationalWiki. Why aren't you battling over there? I'll remind you there are thousands of other wikis listed on this site, and none of the others has generated such controversy. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 15:56, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:I would like to make it clear that my obsession consists entirely of checking recent changes about once every two hours, and acting appropriately. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:07, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | :I would like to make it clear that my obsession consists entirely of checking recent changes about once every two hours, and acting appropriately. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:07, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:It depends on what you mean by "battling". My comments on this talk page are here because they concern what to put in the article here. I don't mind if we move debates to [[Lumeniki]], [[RationalWiki]], or wherever. If you "delete" them, then we would still have those options. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:32, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:As I see it, there are two separate conflicts. I have rewritten the criticism a number of times. It seems it is improving, but this process is slow and it ''creates the other conflict with you''. The solution would be, as you suggest, to do this somewhere else, but I think they would be quite happy with no criticism and they don't know yet whether they should have to do any of this work, or if you will let them delete it, as they presently have. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:32, 24 September 2009 (EDT) | |||