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WikiIndex is in the process of developing | The WikiIndex administration is in the process of developing and explaining their guidelines, principles, and policies. '''This page is being used for policy development and is not an official guide.''' For now, administrators monitor the site and usually suggest better ways of doing things. Issues of immediate concern can be posted [[Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki|here]]. For a few simple guidelines, see [[WikiIndex:Editing etiquette]] or [[WikiIndex:Guidelines]]. For other guidelines, see [[:Category:Guidelines]]. Block policy is being discussed at [[WikiIndex_talk:Blocking_Policy]]. | ||
Right now, we only have a couple of rules, which have arisen from direct experience: | Right now, we only have a couple of rules, which have arisen from direct experience: | ||
# Actual [[Spam_Control_Policy|commercial spam will be mercilessly deleted]]. Irrelevant content should be instead marked for deletion, to allow a review first. One man's "irrelevant" can be another's "interesting". | # Actual [[Spam_Control_Policy|commercial spam will be mercilessly deleted]]. Irrelevant content should be instead marked for deletion, to allow a review first. One man's "irrelevant" can be another's "interesting". | ||
# Edit | # Edit warring and long arguments are not appreciated. If you find yourself repeatedly restoring content somebody else keeps deleting (or the other way around), let them have their way for the time being (administrators will appreciate this) and try a different approach: | ||
::*Go to their discussion page and/or the article discussion page. Write a polite request, question, or justification for your position. | |||
::*After a few posts, if you find the discussion is mostly argument, with no end in sight, you might ask your "opponent" to meet you at another location. For example, invite them to another wiki or the [[WikiIndex:Chatroom|WikiIndex IRC chatroom]]. | |||
::*You might create a voting poll on the article's talk page, to get feedback from other editors. | |||
::*Ask your opponent if they will agree to the judgment of an arbiter. Anyone may be chosen as a judge for your issue, if you all can agree to it. (You may want to ask an arbiter how much they are willing to read before making their decision, so you have some idea of how much you need to reduce your summary.) | |||
::*If these methods fail or you want a simpler solution, ask for arbitration [[Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki|here]] or on [[Category:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki|an administrator's]] talk page. | |||
[[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 03:35, 4 October 2009 (EDT) [expanded by [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:02, 5 October 2009 (EDT)] | |||
A discussion of possible policies follows. See also [[WikiIndex_talk:Policies_and_Guidelines]]. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 03:35, 4 October 2009 (EDT) | |||
A discussion of possible policies follows. See also [[WikiIndex_talk:Policies_and_Guidelines | |||
==Sources of inspiration== | ==Sources of inspiration== | ||
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* Wikipedia says [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith Assume Good Faith]. This is important! | * Wikipedia says [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith Assume Good Faith]. This is important! | ||
* WardsWiki has some words on [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GoodStyle Good Style] and a treatment of [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?UnethicalEditing Unethical Editing]. | * WardsWiki has some words on [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GoodStyle Good Style] and a treatment of [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?UnethicalEditing Unethical Editing]. | ||
*[[RationalWiki]] developed a set of "[http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/RationalWiki:Community_Standards community standards]", and updated them successfully. | *[[RationalWiki]] developed a set of "[http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/RationalWiki:Community_Standards community standards]", and updated them successfully. All is documented on the [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/RationalWiki_talk:Community_Standards talk page] and its archives. (Added by Huw Powel) | ||
Feel free to add others. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 03:56, 4 October 2009 (EDT) | Feel free to add others. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 03:56, 4 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
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# Articles can say anything as long as no-one contests it. | # Articles can say anything as long as no-one contests it. | ||
# Articles should preferably stick to facts (e.g. "wiki X claims that Y on page Z"). | # <del>Articles should preferably stick to facts (e.g. "wiki X claims that Y on page Z").</del> [Strikeout by [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:02, 5 October 2009 (EDT)] | ||
The first was proposed on IRC by [[User:Lumenos]]; I think it is likely to cause trouble, hence my counter-proposal. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 03:35, 4 October 2009 (EDT) | The first was proposed on IRC by [[User:Lumenos]]; I think it is likely to cause trouble, hence my counter-proposal. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 03:35, 4 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
:Well actually I was proposing that you have a speedy delete policy that is connected to the block policy for things like biographical information that is obtained in an illegitimate (illegal) manner. Same with things like spam and copyrighted work. Beyond those basic ("common sense") rules, you might not need to forbid things like "criticism", "original research", "unverified claims", etc, if these aren't contested. '''This is to address those who prefer NOT having "rules" that are "strict", "explicit", etc.''' I'm suggesting you need only get out the rule book when people aren't being "nice". But if you want a smoother ride, it might be easier to have a policy that wiki articles are to be always from a sympathetic viewpoint, for example. It is difficult to say if that would be less controversial than an "neutral point of view". [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:02, 5 October 2009 (EDT) | |||
==Criticism of wikis== | ==Criticism of wikis== | ||
Criticism is controversial. The majority of the WikiIndex administration doesn't seem to like having to mediate and deal with conflicts. Therefore I am suggesting that wiki articles will probably have to be in a sympathetic viewpoint. A possible alternative is to streamline or "outsource", the process of dispute resolution. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:02, 5 October 2009 (EDT) | |||
The following are some administrative comments that seemed to suggest that wiki criticism may have been allowable: | |||
MarkDilly seems to be the only active bureaucrat, this would appear to be a quote from [[Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#Conservapedia.2C_RationalWiki_etc|this location]]: ''"I can understand that folks from Conservapedia don't want the page on [[WikiIndex]] about their wiki to be overrun by criticism - and I can also understand that people want to talk about problems they have with the wiki. Why not take it to a page [[Constructive Criticism of Conservapedia]] and simply make one line / link on the [[Conservapedia]] page pointing to this. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''" [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:02, September 21, 2009 (UTC) | MarkDilly seems to be the only active bureaucrat, this would appear to be a quote from [[Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#Conservapedia.2C_RationalWiki_etc|this location]]: ''"I can understand that folks from Conservapedia don't want the page on [[WikiIndex]] about their wiki to be overrun by criticism - and I can also understand that people want to talk about problems they have with the wiki. Why not take it to a page [[Constructive Criticism of Conservapedia]] and simply make one line / link on the [[Conservapedia]] page pointing to this. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''" [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:02, September 21, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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* '''Tag:''' Placing "<del>warning</del> tags" on info that is dubious, impolite, etc. ~~ [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] | * '''Tag:''' Placing "<del>warning</del> tags" on info that is dubious, impolite, etc. ~~ [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] | ||
:* Warning tags are too strong - I like the idea of tags and think they should point to constructive information. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | :* Warning tags are too strong - I like the idea of tags and think they should point to constructive information. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
::* Okay, that makes sense for dubious, impolite info. We have page deletion tag that may serve as a "warning". Another example might be a tag if a page may be relocated to the talk page. Something about how this can be prevented. Once we have policies, the tag may point to the relevant polices. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:02, 5 October 2009 (EDT) | |||
*'''Relocating an article about a wiki, to the talk page, and locking the article:''' | *'''Relocating an article about a wiki, to the talk page, and locking the article:''' | ||
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Since this is WikiIndex, I'd stick to people who are important in the world of Wikis, such as creators of established engines and people like Jimmy Wales. For guidelines on ''how'' to write the biographies, Wikipedia does look like a good model to follow. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 12:07, 29 August 2009 (EDT) | Since this is WikiIndex, I'd stick to people who are important in the world of Wikis, such as creators of established engines and people like Jimmy Wales. For guidelines on ''how'' to write the biographies, Wikipedia does look like a good model to follow. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 12:07, 29 August 2009 (EDT) | ||
:I linked to the wrong Wikipedia policy. I'm really thinking more of a speedy deletion policy that applies to talk pages also. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:02, 5 October 2009 (EDT) | |||
==Common sense proposal [for this project page]== | ==Common sense proposal [for this project page]== | ||