User:Lumenos/WikiIndex (unwritten) policies: Difference between revisions

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→‎Point of view, commenting in articles: editting some of my older comments
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:: '''Those are fair comments - I just don't know what NPOV would do for us here.  My experience with wiki, is that if I say something that is outrageous and inflammatory - someone comes in and fixes it - keeps the meaning but ''neutralizes'' it. So I do agree with not creating an atmosphere of forest fire mentality or edit waring or flaming. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'''
:: '''Those are fair comments - I just don't know what NPOV would do for us here.  My experience with wiki, is that if I say something that is outrageous and inflammatory - someone comes in and fixes it - keeps the meaning but ''neutralizes'' it. So I do agree with not creating an atmosphere of forest fire mentality or edit waring or flaming. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'''


::<del>We are allowing "commenting" on this page, but I don't want to open up debates about specific conflicts. This is my reason for the "NPOV". [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:51, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
::We are allowing "commenting" on this page, but I don't want to open up debates about specific conflicts. This is my reason for the "NPOV". [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:51, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
::: '''I think that commenting on any page is ''allowed'' - that is how wiki has worked for many places before Wikipedia.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'''
::: '''I think that commenting on any page is ''allowed'' - that is how wiki has worked for many places before Wikipedia.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'''


(Here is [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Npov Wikipedia's policy of a neutral point of view] if this may give us any ideas.) -- [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]
(Here is [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Npov Wikipedia's policy of a neutral point of view] if this may give us any ideas.) -- [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]


::Another idea would be to use the talk page for "comments" but <del>the whole thing is pretty much my "POV", so I don't want to exclude others. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:51, 4 September 2009 (EDT)</del>
::Another idea would be to use the talk page for "comments" but <del>the whole thing is pretty much my "POV", so</del> I don't want to exclude others. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:51, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
::: '''''Glad that you are interested in inclusion. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'''''
::: '''''Glad that you are interested in inclusion. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'''''
:::I feel strongly that we should be signing our proposals and claims here and I thank you for doing so. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:51, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
:::I feel strongly that we should be signing our proposals and claims here and I thank you for doing so. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 00:51, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
:::: '''Ditto ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'''
:::: '''Ditto ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'''
:::I've tried to remove or strike-out nearly everything that could be considered my POV. I've left only some things that the administration has responded to. The old style of this policy page (which I was referring to as being in my POV) can be found [[User:Lumenos/WikiIndex (unwritten) policies|here]]. (Really what I meant was that the original page had a number of my policy ''proposals'', questions, and observations. The ideas of having the outline structure based on a sort of [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Conflict_theory conflict theory], and drawing a distinction between manifest and latent "policy", were mine, also.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:58, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
:::I've tried to remove or strike-out most stuff that may be considered my POV. I've left only some things that the administration has responded to. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 20:55, 22 June 2010 (EDT)


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