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→‎spam - do you 'undo' or 'rollback' on existing valid articles: confused reply - with maybe some reasons why
(: ''hmm, I am pretty 'wiki savvy' and I just rolled back your edit, yet I see it in the history of the page... clearly not understanding this function as you are. Help? (also, changed abbreviation to full word))
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::Correct.  Rollback completely deletes any 'offending' edit such as spam.  For people who are 'wiki savvy', an 'undo' edit will still leave any spam in its edit history, and could still potentially be indexed in a search engine.  But rollback is like 'un-inventing the wheel' - all trace is gone.  It was the lack of rollback which caused [[Goatopedia]] to be shut down - a spammer posted images of child porn, but the site admins just 'undone' the offending edit, and then [[Wikipedia:CEOP|CEOP]] (a specialist division of the UKs Met Police) repeatedly found damming image, and threatened the site owner.  Had the rollback function been used, Goatopedia would still be up and running.  Rollback should seriously be implemented by all WikiIndex admins - Wikipedia even allow non-admins to use rollback.  Hope I've made this a little clearer :) --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 10:38, 27 January 2012 (PST)
::Correct.  Rollback completely deletes any 'offending' edit such as spam.  For people who are 'wiki savvy', an 'undo' edit will still leave any spam in its edit history, and could still potentially be indexed in a search engine.  But rollback is like 'un-inventing the wheel' - all trace is gone.  It was the lack of rollback which caused [[Goatopedia]] to be shut down - a spammer posted images of child porn, but the site admins just 'undone' the offending edit, and then [[Wikipedia:CEOP|CEOP]] (a specialist division of the UKs Met Police) repeatedly found damming image, and threatened the site owner.  Had the rollback function been used, Goatopedia would still be up and running.  Rollback should seriously be implemented by all WikiIndex admins - Wikipedia even allow non-admins to use rollback.  Hope I've made this a little clearer :) --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 10:38, 27 January 2012 (PST)
: ''hmm, I am pretty 'wiki savvy' and I just rolled back your edit, yet I see it in the history of the page...  clearly not understanding this function as you are.  Help? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: ''hmm, I am pretty 'wiki savvy' and I just rolled back your edit, yet I see it in the history of the page...  clearly not understanding this function as you are.  Help? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::Now I'm confused . . . rollback here on WikiIndex seems to work differently compared to [[English Wikipedia]].  Further digging, and it looks like WP used an [[wp:Wikipedia:Oversight|extension]] called [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight Oversight] . . . but this Oversite extension was subsequently included in MediaWiki version 1.16.0.  WikiIndex currently has v.1.17.0, so ''should'' include this . . . it looks like its plain english terminology is called 'HideRevision' . . . however, looking at the specific [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_17_0/phase3/?pathrev=91249 code] of MW software installed here on WikiIndex, it looks different to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/?pathrev=109351 Wikipedia software].  Maybe Wikipedia uses specific and customised Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) software, whereas all other non-WMF wikis use a different software compilation, and maybe not all extensions are available to non-WMF users. :/  Anyway, as and Admin, do you see 'HideRevision' anywhere?  Best, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:43, 29 January 2012 (PST)

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