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==Tags== | ==Tags== | ||
John, I spoke with Ray and we both agree that the tags are a definate step in the right direction, I am hoping that we can figure out what we need to do to make the tag functional within the description text. Until then, I guess we place the things underneath the header/footer. | John, I spoke with Ray and we both agree that the tags are a definate step in the right direction, I am hoping that we can figure out what we need to do to make the tag functional within the description text. Until then, I guess we place the things underneath the header/footer. | ||
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==wiki_recentchanges== | ==wiki_recentchanges== | ||
In order to have a clean, uniform look in the [[WikiIndex: | In order to have a clean, uniform look in the [[WikiIndex:WikiIndex:Structured data|WikiIndex:Structured data]] template, wiki_recentchanges needs to be set to "no" if there is not a RecentChanges in the [[wiki]]. Words other than "no" show up ugly and distracting. | ||
: Could we rename <code>wiki_recentchanges</code> to something like <code>recent_changes_URL</code> to emphasize that we *want* the actual URL there, not merely the word "yes" ? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 14:38, 8 Feb 2006 (EST) | : Could we rename <code>wiki_recentchanges</code> to something like <code>recent_changes_URL</code> to emphasize that we *want* the actual URL there, not merely the word "yes" ? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 14:38, 8 Feb 2006 (EST) | ||
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: Agreed [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small> | : Agreed [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small> | ||
== technical question about each wiki logo == | ==technical question about each wiki logo== | ||
The pages that discuss an individual [[wiki]], also display that [[:Category:WikiLogo|wiki's logo]]. There are 2 possible ways of displaying that wiki's logo. (The logo looks identical in the normal "read" view, no matter which way we do it. It is only visible in the "editbox"). | The pages that discuss an individual [[wiki]], also display that [[:Category:WikiLogo|wiki's logo]]. There are 2 possible ways of displaying that wiki's logo. (The logo looks identical in the normal "read" view, no matter which way we do it. It is only visible in the "editbox"). | ||
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* Link directly to that wiki's logo, using the full URL of its location on that wiki. | * Link directly to that wiki's logo, using the full URL of its location on that wiki. | ||
** Quicker, for the people putting new wiki into the wikiindex, to copy and past the URL to the image file, than to upload and download files (then delete that temporary file). | ** Quicker, for the people putting new wiki into the wikiindex, to copy and past the URL to the image file, than to upload and download files (then delete that temporary file). | ||
** If someone finds the wiki *here*, then visits that wiki, the logo is only downloaded once (from that wiki) and stored in cache. (Rather than downloaded once from wikiindex. | ** If someone finds the wiki *here*, then visits that wiki, the logo is only downloaded once (from that wiki) and stored in cache. (Rather than downloaded once from wikiindex.com (wikiindex.org) and once again from that wiki). | ||
** once and only once | ** once and only once | ||
** [[ | ** [[Personal Telco Project]] does it this way | ||
* Download the image from that wiki, then upload that image to the WikiIndex, then refer to the wikiindex version of that image with double-brackets. | * Download the image from that wiki, then upload that image to the WikiIndex, then refer to the wikiindex version of that image with double-brackets. | ||
** reduces load on that distant wiki, in the case where I look at the description here, and then decide not to visit that wiki after all. | ** reduces load on that distant wiki, in the case where I look at the description here, and then decide not to visit that wiki after all. | ||
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== getting the logo from wiki based on mediawiki == | == getting the logo from wiki based on mediawiki == | ||
With many [[:Category:Wiki | With many [[:Category:Wiki engine|wiki engines]], you can hit "File" | "Save page as" to snag a copy of the logo, or do "View" | "Page Source..." to find the exact URL of the logo. However, some wiki based on the [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] engine make it difficult to access the logo and put it on [[WikiIndex]]. When I try to to do "File" | "Save page as", I get some sort of "print version" of the page that doesn't include the logo. When I check the source code, it doesn't mention the logo anywhere. Apparently it is included by reference in one of the several CSS stylesheets referenced by the page. | ||
What's the trick for grabbing that logo and putting it into the wikiindex entry for that wiki? | What's the trick for grabbing that logo and putting it into the wikiindex entry for that wiki? | ||
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:: An even easier trick is described at [[WikiProject:Logos]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 14:14, 21 January 2009 (EST) | :: An even easier trick is described at [[WikiProject:Logos]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 14:14, 21 January 2009 (EST) | ||
== More details on template needed == | ==More details on template needed== | ||
It would be helpful if there was more information on this page to help new users complete the template. | It would be helpful if there was more information on this page to help new users complete the template. | ||
I got stuck on WikiSize - what does this mean? Is it the number of pages? In the main namespace only? I only have about 20 pages now, but do I need to come and edit this regularly as I grow? I also didn't know what a WikiNode was, although at least I was able to find out reasonably quickly by searching the site. | I got stuck on WikiSize - what does this mean? Is it the number of pages? In the main namespace only? I only have about 20 pages now, but do I need to come and edit this regularly as I grow? I also didn't know what a WikiNode was, although at least I was able to find out reasonably quickly by searching the site. | ||
A blow-by-blow idiot's guide would be useful, and not too long or difficult to write, including links to pages showing options (e.g. [[Special:Categories]]). | A blow-by-blow idiot's guide would be useful, and not too long or difficult to write, including links to pages showing options (e.g. [[Special:Categories]]). Thanks [[User:Visctrix|Visctrix]] 15:56, 6 March 2007 (PST) | ||
Thanks [[User:Visctrix|Visctrix]] 15:56, 6 March 2007 (PST) | |||
<s> | <s> | ||
: WikiSize should look something like ''MoreThan<u>Number</u>'' (or ''LessThan10'' for very small wikis), where number should begin with 1, 2 or 5, and the rest should be zeroes. For example, a wiki with 3296 articles is MoreThan2000, a wiki with 99 articles is MoreThan50, and a wiki with 4 articles is LessThan10. – [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]</small> 07:53, 7 March 2007 (PST) | :WikiSize should look something like ''MoreThan<u>Number</u>'' (or ''LessThan10'' for very small wikis), where number should begin with 1, 2 or 5, and the rest should be zeroes. For example, a wiki with 3296 articles is MoreThan2000, a wiki with 99 articles is MoreThan50, and a wiki with 4 articles is LessThan10. – [[Smiddle]]/<small>[[Talk:Smiddle|T]][[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]</small> 07:53, 7 March 2007 (PST) | ||
</s> | </s> | ||
:: Please help us write such a helpful guide -- is [[Template:Size]] the best place to put it where people will find it? I see pieces of information scattered across several pages, including [[WikiProject | :: Please help us write such a helpful guide -- is [[Template:Size]] the best place to put it where people will find it? I see pieces of information scattered across several pages, including [[WikiIndex:WikiProject - By Size]] and [[Template:Size]] and [[Category:Wiki Size]] and their respective talk pages. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 09:32, 2 February 2009 (EST) | ||
== editmode == | ==editmode== | ||
A wiki's [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|editmode]] is a concept that [[WikiIndex]] seems to have made up, rather than something that is common knowledge. You need to add clear instructions on every page that mentions this (i.e. this page and the page with the [[Template:Wiki|wiki template]].) | A wiki's [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|editmode]] is a concept that [[WikiIndex]] seems to have made up, rather than something that is common knowledge. You need to add clear instructions on every page that mentions this (i.e. this page and the page with the [[Template:Wiki|wiki template]].) | ||
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Maybe a link to [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode]] could be enough, but I would prefer to see a basic explanation of each stat and its variables, with a link to read more. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 05:43, 17 May 2009 (EDT) | Maybe a link to [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode]] could be enough, but I would prefer to see a basic explanation of each stat and its variables, with a link to read more. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 05:43, 17 May 2009 (EDT) | ||
:WikiIndex didn't invent the concept - [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] and other [[:Category:Wiki | :WikiIndex didn't invent the concept - [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] and other [[:Category:Wiki engine|wiki engines]] allow the wiki owner to configure who can and cannot edit the wiki. I've seen referred to as "user permissions" or "edit mode", but it's a common concept. It's just that it's transparent for wikis which allow anonymous users to edit. Still, your point that it needs to be better explained is well-taken. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:45, 18 May 2009 (EDT) | ||
::Maybe the instructions [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|here]] could be inserted into a template and then that template could be used for this project page or anywhere else it needs to go. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:49, 18 May 2009 (EDT) | ::Maybe the instructions [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|here]] could be inserted into a template and then that template could be used for this project page or anywhere else it needs to go. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:49, 18 May 2009 (EDT) | ||
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:::Firstly I don't see '''all' the categories on the index page and secondly, it would be better to walk people through with lines like: '''Replace 'YourWikiHttp' with the URL of the wiki you are adding'''. | :::Firstly I don't see '''all' the categories on the index page and secondly, it would be better to walk people through with lines like: '''Replace 'YourWikiHttp' with the URL of the wiki you are adding'''. | ||
:::Actually, I wonder if people should be told by this project to copy and past text that says: 'YourWikiEditMode' when the line could read ' | :::Actually, I wonder if people should be told by this project to copy and past text that says: 'YourWikiEditMode' when the line could read 'Unknown edit mode' from word go. There could then be a line in the instructions that says something like: '''If you know the EditMode of the wiki, change it from 'Unknown edit mode' to an appropriate edit mode from the 'Category:Wiki Edit Mode' page'''. | ||
Some stuff like that could keep things brief, but have plenty of links over to other pages that give all the possible options for each attribute in the template. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 18:19, 18 May 2009 (EDT) | Some stuff like that could keep things brief, but have plenty of links over to other pages that give all the possible options for each attribute in the template. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 18:19, 18 May 2009 (EDT) | ||
: I agree that the abstract concept is pretty common -- most [[:Category:Wiki | : I agree that the abstract concept is pretty common -- most [[:Category:Wiki engine|WikiEngines]] have several options to make editing easier or more restricted. But today I searched mediawiki.org and am surprised to find that "editmode" and "edit mode" never refer to this concept, but always refer to "the mode a person is in after he hits the "edit" button and before hit hits Save or Cancel.". | ||
: In their way, the people at mediawiki.org allude to the concept [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEmailConfirmToEdit][http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_editing_of_all_pages]. | : In their way, the people at mediawiki.org allude to the concept [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEmailConfirmToEdit][http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_editing_of_all_pages]. | ||
: But I don't see that they use any other particular name, either, for what we've been calling "EditMode". | : But I don't see that they use any other particular name, either, for what we've been calling "EditMode". | ||
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I must admit to liking [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|Edit Mode]] - and I understand the issue though. How about a descriptive name like [[EditPrivileges]] or [[EditRights]]? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | I must admit to liking [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|Edit Mode]] - and I understand the issue though. How about a descriptive name like [[EditPrivileges]] or [[EditRights]]? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
== Wikia boilerplate == | ==Wikia boilerplate== | ||
I set up a [[:Category: | I set up a [[:Category:Boilerplate|boilerplate]] template for [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] information: [[template:Wikia boilerplate]]. Some of the information may be different for the various Wikias (not all are [[:Category:OpenEdit|OpenEdit]], and definitely not all are [[:Category:Wiki English|English]] language), but it is helpful for me (and hopefully you) to cut-and-paste this info rather than typing it out each time. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 21:40, 8 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
==[[Wikisage]]== | ==[[Wikisage]]== | ||
No page for this. Mainly in [[:Category:Wiki Dutch|Dutch]], so needs someone who speaks it to do a page. 02:59, 19 March 2012 (PDT) | No page for this. Mainly in [[:Category:Wiki Dutch|Dutch]], so needs someone who speaks it to do a page. 02:59, 19 March 2012 (PDT) | ||
==FormEdit doesn't accept No for WikiNode URL== | |||
So I went to [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]] and used the "Step 2 - Create the Wiki page" to get to Special:FormEdit/Wiki/NAME-OF-WIKI and Special:FormEdit's "WikiNode URL:" says "If your wiki does not have a completed node page, please type 'No'.", BUT if I leave answer as "No" I get an error of "must have the correct URL format, starting with "http"". I get the same answer if i try 'No'. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 10:31, 12 August 2017 (PDT) | |||
:Did you try <code>No</code> without any apostrophes or quotation marks? | |||
:Infobox fields should generally be plain URLs (so no [[interwiki]] links), or plain text (without any kind of punctuation). HTH, but please let us know if you still have any issues or problems. Best regards. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:05, 29 October 2017 (PDT) | |||
Can confirm that this is still an issue. Does it work for you [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean]]? [[MarkDilley]] 01:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC) | |||
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