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Hi, yes Wikia itself is [[:Category:Vibrant|vibrant]], but not all of the wikia-wikis are vibrant. --[[Special:Contributions/141.52.232.84|141.52.232.84]] 08:50, 20 June 2006 (EDT)
Hi, yes Wikia itself is [[:Category:Vibrant|vibrant]], but not all of the wikia-wikis are vibrant. --[[Special:Contributions/141.52.232.84|141.52.232.84]] 08:50, 20 June 2006 (EDT)


:Each Wikia [[wiki]] has a [[:Category:Wiki Status|status]] link.  The Wikia wiki itself is vibrant, that doesn't mean anything is being claimed about any other wiki.  Make sense? Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:Each Wikia [[wiki]] has a [[:Category:Wiki status|status]] link.  The Wikia wiki itself is vibrant, that doesn't mean anything is being claimed about any other wiki.  Make sense? Best, [[MarkDilley]]


==Criticism==
==Criticism==
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==WikiNode deleted==
==WikiNode deleted==
Someon over at [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] (called {{U|Angela}}) has deleted the WikiNode (http://www.Wikia.com/wiki/WikiNode).  I'm going to pull it from the [[Template:Wiki Farm|template]], but thought I would mention it here, so that someone doesn't think I've [[vandal]]ised the page.  I don't know why Angela deleted the WikiNode.  It might be because she doesn't think WikiNodes are useful, or it might be because the WikiNode page that was put up on Wikia was a template that nobody bothered to turn into a good page.  If anyone is a fan of WikiNodes, I suggest you hop over to Wikia and take this up on the discussion page, rather than just recreate a poor quality WikiNode that might just get deleted again. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 20:53, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
Someon over at [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] (called {{U|Angela}}) has deleted the WikiNode (http://www.Wikia.com/wiki/WikiNode).  I'm going to pull it from the [[Template:Wiki farm|template]], but thought I would mention it here, so that someone doesn't think I've [[vandal]]ised the page.  I don't know why Angela deleted the WikiNode.  It might be because she doesn't think WikiNodes are useful, or it might be because the WikiNode page that was put up on Wikia was a template that nobody bothered to turn into a good page.  If anyone is a fan of WikiNodes, I suggest you hop over to Wikia and take this up on the discussion page, rather than just recreate a poor quality WikiNode that might just get deleted again. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 20:53, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
:Found an archived link and re-included the [[Archive.org:20080501073706/http://www.Wikia.com/wiki/WikiNode|WikiNode]] back into the infobox.
:Found an archived link and re-included the [[Archive.org:20080501073706/http://www.Wikia.com/wiki/WikiNode|WikiNode]] back into the infobox.
:As for the reasons ''why'' the WikiNode was deleted over at Wikia, my guess is that they (Wikia) just do not like any cross-pollination with any other [[wiki community]].  Wikia do ''not'' want to acknowledge the existence of any other wikis.  This is highly visible in the way they treat their own users with disdain and contempt! :-(  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:42, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
:As for the reasons ''why'' the WikiNode was deleted over at Wikia, my guess is that they (Wikia) just do not like any cross-pollination with any other [[wiki community]].  Wikia do ''not'' want to acknowledge the existence of any other wikis.  This is highly visible in the way they treat their own users with disdain and contempt! :-(  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:42, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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:Wow, you are right. I'll have to pass the reports of RPG wikis back to The Piazza. People interested in those subjects are going to want to know about the move. There must be other wiki users considering the move too.<br><br>The interesting thing is that despite the exodus, Sansse is refusing to consider switching back to the former template (which seems to be the main reason why people are choosing to leave) and she is also refusing to allow any wiki-community to shut down the [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] version of their project when they leave (meaning that ''every'' wiki that leaves is forking instead of moving). There are so many wikis [[:Category:Ex-Wikia|leaving Wikia]], that I think that the Wikia page may need to be given a section that lists them all. It might even need to be a subpage or even something like a 'wikis that left Wikia' category. I'm not really sure which is best. I've never seen anything like this in my life!<br><br>And if Wikia are creating "forks" that are unsupported, that might need to somehow be noted on any pages set up for those wikis on WikiIndex. Wikia's forking is bound to create confusion and the articles here are going to need to present both wikis along with a reason for the fork (perhaps a 'forked from wikia' template could save some typing. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 07:59, 8 November 2010 (PST)
:Wow, you are right. I'll have to pass the reports of RPG wikis back to The Piazza. People interested in those subjects are going to want to know about the move. There must be other wiki users considering the move too.<br><br>The interesting thing is that despite the exodus, Sansse is refusing to consider switching back to the former template (which seems to be the main reason why people are choosing to leave) and she is also refusing to allow any wiki-community to shut down the [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] version of their project when they leave (meaning that ''every'' wiki that leaves is forking instead of moving). There are so many wikis [[:Category:Ex-Wikia|leaving Wikia]], that I think that the Wikia page may need to be given a section that lists them all. It might even need to be a subpage or even something like a 'wikis that left Wikia' category. I'm not really sure which is best. I've never seen anything like this in my life!<br><br>And if Wikia are creating "forks" that are unsupported, that might need to somehow be noted on any pages set up for those wikis on WikiIndex. Wikia's forking is bound to create confusion and the articles here are going to need to present both wikis along with a reason for the fork (perhaps a 'forked from wikia' template could save some typing. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 07:59, 8 November 2010 (PST)


::I haven't looked for any others, but I'm sure there are more. It looks like [[Wookiepedia]] is staying, though. They appear to be the new poster child for Wikia, now that WoWWikia has forked. This weekend, I concentrated on fixing my favorite Wikia. I doubt it will make a move; like me, the other admins have been mostly absent of late.<br><br>I'm sure this isn't the first wiki to fork, but I can't think of any pertinent examples at the moment. I think that listing the wikis which have moved from Wikia is a reasonable thing to do. A template also seems like a good idea. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 13:35, 8 November 2010 (PST)
::I haven't looked for any others, but I'm sure there are more. It looks like [[Wookieepedia]] is staying, though. They appear to be the new poster child for Wikia, now that WoWWikia has forked. This weekend, I concentrated on fixing my favorite Wikia. I doubt it will make a move; like me, the other admins have been mostly absent of late.<br><br>I'm sure this isn't the first wiki to fork, but I can't think of any pertinent examples at the moment. I think that listing the wikis which have moved from Wikia is a reasonable thing to do. A template also seems like a good idea. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 13:35, 8 November 2010 (PST)


==Perhaps all Wikia wikis should be named "[wikiname] (Wikia)"==
==Perhaps all Wikia wikis should be named "[wikiname] (Wikia)"==
Perhaps all [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] wikis should be named, if they have pages here "[wikiname] (Wikia)". So like "Psychology Wiki [Wikia]" instead of just "[[Psychology Wiki]]". This way viewers here will have more information at hand when making decisions. [[User:Wikademia|Wikademia]] 22:27, 15 December 2010 (PST)
Perhaps all [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] wikis should be named, if they have pages here "[wikiname] (Wikia)". So like "Psychology Wiki [Wikia]" instead of just "[[Psychology Wiki]]". This way viewers here will have more information at hand when making decisions. [[User:Wikademia|Wikademia]] 22:27, 15 December 2010 (PST)


:I had been using the parenthetical only to differentiate when there's more than one wiki with the same name. The problem with putting the extra word in the pagename is that it will add an extra step during a search. Instead of taking you right to the page with the name [[Wookiepedia]], if we change it to "Wookiepedia [Wikia]", a person searching for "Wookiepedia" will be presented with search result options and have to choose from those. That seems like bad UI to me. Instead, maybe we could make the Wiki Farm or Hosting Site part of the infobox. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 12:37, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:I had been using the parenthetical only to differentiate when there's more than one wiki with the same name. The problem with putting the extra word in the pagename is that it will add an extra step during a search. Instead of taking you right to the page with the name [[Wookieepedia]], if we change it to "Wookiepedia [Wikia]", a person searching for "Wookiepedia" will be presented with search result options and have to choose from those. That seems like bad UI to me. Instead, maybe we could make the Wiki Farm or Hosting Site part of the infobox. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 12:37, 16 December 2010 (PST)


::Is it possible to do an alternate [[:Category:Infobox templates|infobox]], that includes everything from the [[Template:Wiki|standard infobox]], but adds on wiki farm? That would stop all other wikis having some sort of 'None' line.<br><br>Alternatively, would it be possible to have a wiki farm line that vanishes if the line is left blank, but adds [[:category: Wikia]] or whatever, if filled in? [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 11:08, 28 February 2011 (PST)
::Is it possible to do an alternate [[:Category:Infobox template|infobox]], that includes everything from the [[Template:Wiki|standard infobox]], but adds on wiki farm? That would stop all other wikis having some sort of 'None' line.<br><br>Alternatively, would it be possible to have a wiki farm line that vanishes if the line is left blank, but adds [[:category: Wikia]] or whatever, if filled in? [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 11:08, 28 February 2011 (PST)


:Both solutions are possible, but I think that the 2nd solution might work better. Otherwise, when we modified the standard infobox, we'd also need to modify the alternate infoboxes. I can easily see them getting out of sync. I've learned but have forgotten the syntax to make an optional parameter that will not appear if not used. I believe it uses some kind of {{{if}}} statement. It already exists in practice in the standard template for the wiki license parameter. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:57, 28 February 2011 (PST)
:Both solutions are possible, but I think that the 2nd solution might work better. Otherwise, when we modified the standard infobox, we'd also need to modify the alternate infoboxes. I can easily see them getting out of sync. I've learned but have forgotten the syntax to make an optional parameter that will not appear if not used. I believe it uses some kind of {{{if}}} statement. It already exists in practice in the standard template for the wiki license parameter. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:57, 28 February 2011 (PST)