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Please ignore this test for John about email. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 01:20, 14 May 2006 (EDT)
 
==sysop?==
Any reason for you not to be a [[sysop]]?  I'd be happy to make you one. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 18:19, 18 September 2006 (EDT)
: Well, if you overlook the long periods where neglect [[WikiIndex]], punctuated by brief periods where I obsessively make mis-guided edits ... and my questionable code of ethics ... Sure, why not? :-) --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 21:52, 22 September 2006 (EDT)
:: Yea!!! Another misguided sysop!  welcome :-) [[MarkDilley]]
::: Indeed, welcome! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 10:56, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
 
Thank you.  Ooh, what's this shiny new "Block user" button I see now when I look at User talk:DavidCary ?  I wonder what happens when I push it ... Doh!  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:05, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
 
==request==
Could you delete my userpage, 'User:Canderous' and the page 'Canderous'? Thanks [[Special:Contributions/Canderous|Canderous]] 05:16, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
: Too late -- I see that someone else has already done this for you. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:13, 16 August 2007 (EDT)
 
==etwas Deutsch zur Abwechslung==
Hallo David, sag mal, was ist deine Zeitzone? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 16:53, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
: Mein Zeitzone ist UTC - 5 ("Tulsa time").  Warum?  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 17:06, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
:: weil ich dabei bin, die Benutzer nach [[:category:time zone|Zeitzone]] zu ordnen, damit sie leichter verstehen, warum jemand anders gerade nicht aktiv ist oder nicht auf eine Mitteilung achtet. [[:Category:time zone UTC-5|Deine]] ist also z.B. um 7 Stunden gegen [[:Category:Central European Time|meine]] versetzt. Deshalb muss ich jetzt auch Schluss machen. Beste Grüße! --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 17:22, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
 
==adding new wikis plan - and idea for collaboration==
Hi David, seeing Peu's frustrated message (cuz I was going to add a bunch to the page :-)  - I thought, maybe I could do something about my guilt and organize a time (an hour) to work with you and whoever else wants to put a dent into [[WikiProject:Wikis to Add]].  You up for a hour together on the [[wiki]], maybe on skype or irc too?  Peu or anyone else, interested?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: Sounds like a great idea.  I am under the impression that I can just take a few wiki off that list and create new pages for them, without any collaboration needed.  Is there something specific we need to coordinate?  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 00:18, 15 February 2008 (EST)
:: I'm still interested in the project, I'll do my best transforming entries into article stubs. Unfortunately my time is currently very limited, nonetheless please keep me up-to-date. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 07:14, 15 February 2008 (EST)
::: David, you have the technical part right! :-)  - I am interested in a social part, like a mini barn raising on these, say we choose a few hours to work together, or a day, and count how many we have been able to add? Trying to get up my energy for tackling the problem. [[Wolf Peuker]] suggests that we not add more to this list and I have dozens more in my bookmark folder to add... Just and idea to create something. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
 
Excellent.  Certainly I agree with Peu that it is better to have a full page on each wiki, rather than a one-liner in the [[WikiProject:Wikis to Add]].  And if we could motivate people to do that, then that would be the best all around.
 
On the other hand, I suspect that if we discourage people from adding to "Wikis to Add", then those people will keep that information to themselves.  In something called a "bookmark folder".  Just a hunch I have.  Then when I search [[WikiIndex]] for a wiki on some topic, I won't find anything at all :-(.
 
When searching for some topic, I'd rather at least find a one-line mention of that topic in the "Wikis to Add" page, then I can be happy that I've found other wiki-positive people who share my interest in that topic :-).  It's certainly much less work for me to take a link off the "Wikis to Add" page and create a page for it, than to hack into Mark Dilley's bookmark folder to find it and *then* create a page for it :-).
 
I'm no expert, but perhaps there is a better way to motivate and encourage ourselves and other people to:
* take one wiki at a time off the list on that page, and create a page for it.
 
What exactly is stopping people from doing that now?


Please ignore this test for John about email. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 01:20, 14 May 2006 (EDT)
''<brainstorming>''
* Perhaps few people know about that page? -> perhaps we could mention it more prominently ... somewhere ... (It's already mentioned on the [[Community Portal]]).
* Perhaps people are scared to edit a page once it gets above a certain size? -> somehow chop it up into smaller, less-overwhelming pieces ...
* Perhaps people don't know the right process for taking a wiki off that list and making a fresh page for it? -> somehow write better, friendlier, easier to understand instructions?
* Perhaps people do know the right process, but it seems like a lot of work? Or it requires several steps including X and Y, and some people don't feel comfortable doing X, while others don't feel comfortable doing Y? -> somehow Break it up into smaller steps, encourage people -- especially newbies -- to find some task they feel comfortable doing, make a little forward progress at a time, and make it easy for others to pick up where the last person left off.
*Perhaps the process of creating a really good page about a wiki requires both X, Y, and Z, but lots of pages are stalled out waiting for Y? -> perhaps, somehow encourage more people to do more Y work. Make it easy for obsessive-compulsives to plow through a whole lot of repetitive Y work for many different wiki. Give people little pictures of barnstars or chocolate-chip cookies when they achieve significant amounts of Y work. Make it a game.
* Some other reason? ...
* ...? -> Or is there something better we could do?
''</brainstorming>''
 
OK, that's enough of me rambling on *about* the problem, rather than actually *doing* something productive.  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 17:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 
==politics.ie wiki==
Since you contributed to Politics.ie article, wanted you to know of a question at [[Talk:Politics.ie Wiki]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 17:44, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
 
==Wikitubia==
Could you help with the infobox on the [[Wikitubia]] article? --[[Special:Contributions/Yowling wolfie|Yowling wolfie]] 13:43, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
: Sssssss... Get out of bed! ''{scares Dave out of bed}'' --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 12:38, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
:: Fixed now, forgot to close. --[[Special:Contributions/Yowling wolfie|Yowling wolfie]] 12:31, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
 
==measuring wiki size==
Hi, I have a quick question. When measuring a wikis [[Template:Size|size]], do we go by total pages? (I.e. all the talk pages included) or just articles?  Thanks. - [[User:Jacjohncoles|Jacjohncoles]]<sup>[[User talk:Jacjohncoles|Talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Jacjohncoles|Contribs]]</sup> 19:44, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 
: Does the discussion at [[WikiIndex talk:WikiProject - By Size]] answer your question?
: For [[wiki]] that use the [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software, I think we are currently only including articles, not including talk pages or redirects or user pages.
: --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 15:18, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
I'm Snuffleupagus! ''[makes furnace noises through snuffle]'' f-f-f-f-f-f ''[in a normal voice]'' Get out of bed! ''[pokes Dave with snuffle, Dave jumps out of bed]'' --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 12:09, 4 November 2008 (EST)
 
==Request for neutral admin==
Hello, I have already asked [[User:Comets]] to help with this issue, but he has not responded.  Perhaps you can help.
 
We need the assistance of a neutral admin to help decide the direction of [[Conservapedia]], [[RationalWiki]], and [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war|The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]]. As it stands, all three articles are being edited almost exclusively by editors of RationalWiki, a site started to criticize Conservapedia. As such, all three articles are just an extended criticism of Conservapedia. As I am associated with Conservapedia (but not exactly a huge fan), I would ask that you look over the articles and decide what, if any, criticism is acceptable according to the standards of this website.
 
Thanks, [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:11, 21 November 2008 (EST)
 
: I've left a few comments on the WikiIndex talk pages corresponding to the above wiki, and also at [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Conservapedia, RationalWiki etc]].
: Is the current compromise acceptable to everyone? If so, then it's time to take down the "Edit Warring" box from these WikiIndex articles. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:47, 24 November 2008 (EST)
:: Thanks for your help. I think (fingers crossed) that the edit-warring should be done now. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:46, 24 November 2008 (EST)
 
==Thanks to the fabulous [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]]==
it is [[:Category:great feature]] - Best,  [[MarkDilley]]
 
==right to vanish==
...
: She's sent me an email asking for all traces of her to disappear. I think that can be done. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 01:01, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:: Sean, I've put the {{Template|delete}} template on her user pages, and in a week or so I'll delete them.
...
:: I wish that when someone asked "Please help", there is something more productive and friendly that we could do -- other than delete all evidence that person was ever here ([[MeatBall: RightToVanish]]).
:: And in this particular case, I worry that a few minor mistakes by WikiIndex regulars will lead to a news reporter getting an incorrect understanding of wiki.
:: ... --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 05:39, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
 
... this section ... I suggest deleteing it after a day or two when people connected with this wiki have had a chance to see it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
 
: I respect this one's desire to vanish from this wiki. I hope someday this one will choose to return to wiki, and become a respected contributor to this and other wiki.
: Done. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 17:17, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
 
==Block==
I blocked an unregistered user because the user made unpleasant or harrassing comments about someone else in the deleted article, [[Dave muistaine]].  I don't know if it was friendly teasing or a serious attempt to blacken someone's reputation but I feel the rule should be that when aparently inocent third parties are involved the accused should not get the benifit of any doubt.  In any case this wiki isn't here for schoolkids or childish adults to call others names. It seems this is {{Wp|Dave Mustaine}}, I don't like his music but I'm not sure we should let people insult him here. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:43, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
: Yes, this looks like a childish grade-school insult. I agree that such things should be immediately deleted, and the person who said it banned for a short time. But I have hopes that such children will soon learn that such things are unacceptable, and learn to be productive -- and so I don't want to ban them forever. On the other hand, spammers who flood a page with dozens of off-topic links -- I am tempted to ban them forever. However, I don't want to unnecessarily block innocent users who use dynamic IP addresses that were once used by a [[spam]]mer. I would appreciate your thoughts on which actions should trigger a ban, and for how long, at [[WikiIndex:Blocking and banning policy]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 20:07, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
 
==Huw Powell==
[[User:Huw Powell]] is stirring things up and harming this wiki, if I weren't personally involved I would warn him or block him, I suspect Peu will come back sooner if Powell stays away. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:47, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
: You are stirring up trouble and harming this wiki. And now that one administrator has already declined to join you in your personal vendetta, you're running away for help from other administrator. Maybe you should [https://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=67377&oldid=67368 listen to Peu]?


== sysop? ==
I'm clearing out the junk form my mailbox and when I've finished I'll  send you an email, sorry it took so long. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:43, 5 July 2009 (EDT)


Any reason for you not to be a sysop?  I'd be happy to make you one. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 18:19, 18 September 2006 (EDT)
==User:Jonah Musto==
I thought I'd draw your attention to [[User:Jonah Musto]] and [[User talk:Jonah Musto]], you may want to do the Google search yourself. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 05:25, 28 July 2009 (EDT)


Well, if you overlook the long periods where neglect wikiindex,
[[User:Jonah Musto]] has been [[Special:Blockip/Jonah Musto|blocked]] for six months after repeat [[vandal]]ism which ordinary users cleared up.  I’ve also had this experience of trying to sort out vandalism on [[wiki]]s where I’m not a [[sysop]] and it’s very frustrating. See, [[User talk:Proxima Centauri#User:Jonah Musto]] I wish I’d blocked him for longer the first time he got blocked. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:55, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
punctuated by brief periods where I obsessively make mis-guided edits ...
and my questionable code of ethics ...
Sure, why not? :-)
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 21:52, 22 September 2006 (EDT)


I've blocked another likely [[sockpuppet]] of JM and deleted more copyright images of ceiling fans.  We need to patrol this wiki often at the moment but too much discussion feeds trolls. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:02, 20 August 2009 (EDT)


Yea!!! Another misguided sysop!  welcome :-) [[MarkDilley]]
: Thank you for blocking the apparent sockpuppet. I think the approach of blocking for a short time, then blocking for longer times, is entirely appropriate.
: I wish there was some way to encourage this person to focus that energy into something more useful. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 16:10, 20 August 2009 (EDT)


: Indeed, welcome! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 10:56, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
==A different editor==
[[WikiIndex talk:Structured data#Where are the instructions for Noobs?|Are there instructions for beginners?]] [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:00, 28 July 2009 (EDT)


Thank you.
==Welcome==
Ooh, what's this shiny new "Block user" button I see now when I look at User_talk:DavidCary ?
I've created {{Template:Welcome}}
I wonder what happens when I push it ... Doh!
which is adapted from [[Liberapedia]]. Is it OK for this wiki? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 09:20, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:05, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
: Nope.  Well, I mean, I like the *idea* of a standardized welcome template [[Template:Welcome]].  But even I can see glitches in this rough draft, as most people can see glitches in almost any rough draft.  I'm going to fix the things that are obvious to me right now.  Please feel free to tweak it and make further improvements and propose it to the [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 21:56, 9 August 2009 (EDT)


==request==
==RationalWiki==
Could you delete my userpage, [[User:Canderous]] and the page [[Canderous]]? Thanks [[User:Canderous|Canderous]] 05:16, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
I threatened to block [[User talk:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] because I feel this user is harassing me across [[wiki]]s.  Further people need to know where criticism of [[Conservapedia]] can be found now that [[RationalWiki]] is down and the Hoover [https://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=68958&oldid=68931 removed] this information. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:18, 22 August 2009 (EDT)


: Too late -- I see that someone else has already done this for you. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:13, 16 August 2007 (EDT)
[[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] has a rule that [[sysop]]s should not block in cases where they are in dispute, and this works well for a giant [[wiki]] with over a thousand sysops.  It doesn't work so well for a small wiki with a few overworked sysops.  Further, I feel I understand the situation over Conservapedia and its critics and I feel the information that [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] removed should stay at least until [[RationalWiki]] is running again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:33, 22 August 2009 (EDT)


== etwas Deutsch zur Abwechslung ==
[[User:Nx]] has been blocked for 3 days.  He has no excuse for not knowing that he shouldn't remove content from pages as he edited [[User talk:Phantom Hoover]] where there is a warning. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:45, 23 August 2009 (EDT)


Hallo David,  
These two users are deliberately trolling and being rude, on many wikis both would be blocked for this type of rudeness to an administrator. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:48, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
sag mal, was ist deine Zeitzone? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 16:53, 11 October 2007 (EDT)


Mein Zeitzone ist UTC - 5 ("Tulsa time").
: Nx and I have done nothing but clean up the mess you left behind. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 15:50, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
Warum?
:: On many wikis you wouldn't be an administrator after this kind of thing. I have justified my removal's of content. I did not remove meaningful content, in fact I added the backup thing instead of a quote. I am not trolling. [[Special:Contributions/65.60.53.250|65.60.53.250]] 15:52, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 17:06, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
::: Yeah, but it's clear that this place has fairly incompetent administration anyway, given that they sysopped her in the first place. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 15:56, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:weil ich dabei bin, die Benutzer nach [[:category:Timezone|Zeitzone]] zu ordnen, damit sie leichter verstehen, warum jemand anders gerade nicht aktiv ist oder nicht auf eine Mitteilung achtet. [[:Category:Timezone UTC-5|Deine]] ist also z.B. um 7 Stunden gegen [[:Category:Central European Time|meine]] versetzt. Deshalb muss ich jetzt auch Schluss machen. Beste Grüße! --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 17:22, 11 October 2007 (EDT)


== adding new wikis plan - and idea for collaboration ==
<blockquote>''"Shoo, and go back to pretending you have power on Liberapedia, rather than pimping it on sites which matter. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 15:09, 23 August 2009 (EDT)


Hi David, seeing Peu's frustrated message (cuz I was going to add a bunch to the page :-) - I thought, maybe I could do something about my guilt and organize a time (an hour) to work with you and whoever else wants to put a dent into [[Wikis to Add]].  You up for a hour together on the wiki, maybe on skype or irc too? Peu or anyone else, interested? Best, [[MarkDilley]]
''Ignore the inhospitableness of Proxima Centauri, seeing as how she's running to other sysops for reassurance, I'm sure she can't do much. [[User:Nx|Nx]] 15:19, 23 August 2009 (EDT)''
: Yaay! Where did she run for reassurance? [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 15:34, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:: Found it. Why do I feel that she comprises half the comments here? [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 15:37, 23 August 2009 (EDT)"</blockquote>
The rudeness above is copied from [[User talk:Phantom Hoover]] and I'm tired of that type of thing. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 16:20, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
: You threatened a block instead of welcoming me; I don't exactly call that polite. Moreover, you blocked Nx, who had only removed incorrect information, for three freaking days. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:24, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:: (ec) Rude, that? Which part, that you were inhospitable? Isn't that true: you reverted an editor on sight without any explanation, then threatened him with a block. Then you reverted and blocked me without warning and justification. I have sent emails to Mr. Ernst and Mr. Stanton, and I hope one of them will reply. Also, I won't lower myself to your level and block you at RationalWiki, but I will remove your sysop rights there as you are clearly incapable of using these powers properly, as you have demonstrated before. [[Special:Contributions/76.73.76.122|76.73.76.122]] 16:27, 23 August 2009 (EDT)


Sounds like a great idea.
==Dispute Resolution==
I am under the impression that I can just take a few wiki off that list and create new pages for them, without any collaboration needed.
Hey David, wanted to see if you were interested in dispute resolution, my suggestion is [https://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AThis_is_not_the_solution&diff=69572&oldid=69536 here] ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
Is there something specific we need to coordinate?
: OK, I'll check it out. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:27, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 00:18, 15 February 2008 (EST)


I'm still interested in the project, I'll do my best transforming entries into article stubs. Unfortunately my time is currently very limited, nonetheless please keep me up-to-date. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 07:14, 15 February 2008 (EST)
==You seem to be sane!==
Can you please re-add the descriptions to the [[Liberapedia]], [[RationalWikiWiki]] and [[Conservapedia]] articles, as they contained nothing whatsoever controversial. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 11:14, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
: I'll, um, take that as a complement. Let me look... --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:27, 10 September 2009 (EDT)


David, you have the technical part right! :-)  - I am interested in a social part, like a mini barn raising on these, say we choose a few hours to work together, or a day, and count how many we have been able to add? Trying to get up my energy for tackling the problem. [[Wolf Peuker]] suggests that we not add more to this list and I have dozens more in my bookmark folder to add... Just and idea to create something. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
==Sigh...==
UPDATE people SET sanity="insane" WHERE name="DavidCary"; [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 12:53, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
:: Wait, hang on, I misunderstood! UPDATE people SET sanity="sane" WHERE name="DavidCary"; Many apologies. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:25, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
: Replied, [[User:Phantom Hoover|in your other hobgoblin hole]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:13, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
:: Dear Phantom Hoover, that was confusing. Apology accepted.  If only the other misunderstandings and over-reactions could be corrected as easily ... :-) --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 13:42, 10 September 2009 (EDT)


Excellent.
==New?==
Question about New status at [[Category talk:New]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 19:46, 24 October 2009 (EDT)


Certainly I agree with Peu that it is better to have a full page on each wiki, rather than a one-liner in the [[Wikis to Add]].
==SlideWiki is restored. Thanks to your signaled interest==
And if we could motivate people to do that, then that would be the best all around.
Hello David, thanks to your friendly interest, [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SlideWiki Meatball:SlideWiki] on [[SeedWiki]] is back. I left a link there, said a public thank you to you and KennethTyler in [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?RecentChanges Meatball:RecentChanges]. I would love to transfer this domain free of charge to you, your friends or anybody interested, in the sense of FreeGainSharing as part of the SocialDomaining experiment, which itself is part of our grassroot WikiNomics initiative.  --[[User:Fridemar|Fridemar]] 12:20, 3 December 2009 (EST) FridemarPache


On the other hand, I suspect that if we discourage people from adding to "Wikis to Add", then those people will keep that information to themselves.
I see that the Slidewiki is now back online at http://seedwiki.com/wiki/slidewiki/ . Yay!  I hope that http://SlideWiki.net/ will soon point to it.
In something called a "bookmark folder".
Just a hunch I have.
Then when I search WikiIndex for a wiki on some topic, I won't find anything at all :-(.


When searching for some topic, I'd rather at least find a one-line mention of that topic in the "Wikis to Add" page, then I can be happy that I've found other wiki-positive people who share my interest in that topic :-).
The ExtremeOpenBusiness sounds like a fascinating experiment. What would you like me to do?
It's certainly much less work for me to take a link off the "Wikis to Add" page and create a page for it, than to hack into Mark Dilley's bookmark folder to find it and *then* create a page for it :-).


I'm no expert, but perhaps there is a better way to motivate and encourage ourselves and other people to:
Thank you for offering SlideWiki.net domain name to me.  I am flattered that you trust me to put it to good use.  But I honestly don't know what I need to do to accept it.  I suppose I could write you a check.  Or I could send you a payment through PayPal.  Or I could offer to trade one of my domains for it, such as http://visualwiki.org/ .  And then what?  As of 2009, nearly all my experience with domain names is buying domains that I intend to use myself, buying domains that do not yet exist, directly through a domain name registrar.  As of 2009, I never bought a pre-existing domain, so I'm a little fuzzy on the process. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 20:03, 12 March 2010 (EST)
* take one wiki at a time off the list on that page, and create a page for it.


What exactly is stopping people from doing that now?
Hallo David, just noticed your message here via Meatball. You could have SlideWiki.net transferred by FreeGainsharing as depicted in https://aboutus.org/FreeGainSharing, https://aboutus.org/SocialDomaining and '''https://aboutus.org/2pen.org''' (abstracting from the fixed price offer there). If you enter the WikiConversation in one of the above aboutus.org pages, I get an email-notification. (Currently Meatball appears to be defunct (at least) for me, and this in edit- as well as in discussion-mode. If you happen to see Mark, give him a friendly nudge to remind him, that I am waiting for his response).


< brainstorming >
==Accept suggestion to sell the domain slidewiki.net as SocialDomaining via OpenBusiness==
* Perhaps few people know about that page? -> perhaps we could mention it more prominently ... somewhere ... (It's already mentioned on the [[Community Portal]]).
David, thank you for appreciating the concept and the domain. For simplifying the procedure, I suggest, that you open a free domain-account at http://namePros.com, to which I can transfer the domain slidewiki.net nearly immediately (without the delays, that can occur on external domain transfers).
* Perhaps people are scared to edit a page once it gets above a certain size? -> somehow chop it up into smaller, less-overwhelming pieces ...
* Perhaps people don't know the right process for taking a wiki off that list and making a fresh page for it? -> somehow write better, friendlier, easier to understand instructions?
* Perhaps people do know the right process, but it seems like a lot of work? Or it requires several steps including X and Y, and some people don't feel comfortable doing X, while others don't feel comfortable doing Y? -> somehow Break it up into smaller steps, encourage people -- especially newbies -- to find some task they feel comfortable doing, make a little forward progress at a time, and make it easy for others to pick up where the last person left off.
* Perhaps the process of creating a really good page about a wiki requires both X, Y, and Z, but lots of pages are stalled out waiting for Y? -> perhaps, somehow encourage more people to do more Y work. Make it easy for obsessive-compulsives to plow through a whole lot of repetitive Y work for many different wiki. Give people little pictures of barnstars or chocolate-chip cookies when they achieve significant amounts of Y work. Make it a game.
* Some other reason? ...
* ...? -> Or is there something better we could do?
< /brainstorming >


OK, that's enough of me rambling on *about* the problem, rather than actually *doing* something productive.
To authentify, that you are the right David, and in accordance to your suggestion to consider a payment, I ask you to send me 50USD via my paypal-frontstore and would love to help you in the wiki to start our common mindchild.
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 17:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)


== politics.ie wiki ==
If this is too much money, feel free to suggest another price. I would love to make the transaction an instance of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_business WikiPedia:OpenBusiness] ( an article, which I edited  in the last days). --[[User:Fridemar|Fridemar]] 10:07, 13 April 2010 (EDT)


Since you contributed to Politics.ie article, wanted you to know of a question at [[Talk:Politics.ie Wiki]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 17:44, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
==Remove old logo==
Hello, I was hoping you could remove the old CsWiki logo (Image:CSWikiLogo.JPG), so I could upload the new logo for the updated wiki.
: It looks like someone else has already updated the [[Counter-Strike Wiki]] article with the new logo. Is there anything else I can do to help? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 09:18, 17 June 2010 (EDT)


== Wikitubia ==
==[[wiki.GIS.com]] on WikiIndex==
Just in case you missed my response on [[wiki.GIS.com]]s' Discussion Room, I wanted to say thank you for linking/listing us within the [[WikiIndex]].  As I find time, I will go in and edit the current content to reflect on our [[wiki]] and what we are trying to accomplish as well as what we are all about.  --[[Collin]] July 27, 2010


Could you help with the infobox on the [[Wikitubia]] article? --[[User:Yowling wolfie|Yowling wolfie]] 13:43, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
==Not sure I get it==
:Sssssss... Get out of bed! ''{scares Dave out of bed}'' --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 12:38, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
Why you moved  [[wiki.GIS.com]] to [[geographic information system wiki]].  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: ''get it now''


::Fixed now, forgot to close. --[[User:Yowling wolfie|Yowling wolfie]] 12:31, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
Two well-meaning people independently created these two pages, both of them pointing to the same URL (and therefore the same [[wiki]]).  Redundant.  So I merged all the text onto one page.  I wasn't sure which name was better, so I picked the one with the oldest history on WikiIndex.  Then left the other page as a redirect.  Feel free to move the merged page to the other name if you think it is better.


== measuring wiki size ==
I'm a little worried that this wiki will be added to WikiIndex a few dozen more times, because when I search for "GIS" from the WikiIndex search box, I come up empty, leading to the (false) conclusion that this wiki is not already listed in the WikiIndex.  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 22:10, 6 August 2010 (EDT)
: '' thank you for the further clarification, will try to make an edit to see if GIS issue can be bludgeoned. :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]''


Hi, I have a quick question. When measuring a wiki's size, do we go by total pages? (I.e. all the talk pages included) or just articles?
==Hello!==
Hello, this is Star651. You know that note you sent me after I wrote all those articles? Well, thank you! I need your email address so we can talk in private, and not have other WikiIndexers know what we're saying. [[User:Star651|Star651]] 12:40, 11 September 2010 (PDT)


Thanks. - [[User:Jacjohncoles|Jacjohncoles]]<sup>[[User_talk:Jacjohncoles|Talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Jacjohncoles|Contribs]]</sup> 19:44, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
==Your thoughts on upgrade and logo==
Hi David, can you check out, contribute if you want - [[WikiIndex:Admin Notes#October 2010 Upgrade Thoughts]] - best, [[MarkDilley]]


:: Does the discussion at [[Talk:WikiProject:By Size]] answer your question?
==Reply==
:: For wiki that use the Mediawiki software, I think we are currently only including articles, not including talk pages or redirects or user pages.
See [[User talk:ht14|here]]. Is that policy also here? [[Special:Contributions/Ht14|ht14]] ([[User talk:Ht14|talk]]) 19:19, 27 October 2010 (PDT)
:: --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 15:18, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
I'm Snuffleupagus! ''[makes furnace noises through snuffle]'' f-f-f-f-f-f ''[in a normal voice]'' Get out of bed! ''[pokes Dave with snuffle, Dave jumps out of bed]'' --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 12:09, 4 November 2008 (EST)


== Request for neutral admin ==
==Nice work with Joel==
I appreciate the way you are working on the wiki David.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


Hello, I have already asked [[User:Comets]] to help with this issue, but he has not responded. Perhaps you can help.
==ATWiki==
Thanks for started the [[ATWiki]] wiki. Do you have an account at ATWiki? I was hoping you would ask an ATWiki admin to check the articles that LyanOsalia has created. ( http://atwiki.assistivetech.net/index.php/Special:Contributions/LyanOsalia ) They all seem to be ads for hooksandlattice website. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 16:05, 11 February 2011 (PST)


We need the assistance of a neutral admin to help decide the direction of [[Conservapedia]], [[RationalWiki]], and [[The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]]. As it stands, all three articles are being edited almost exclusively by editors of RationalWiki, a site started to criticize Conservapedia. As such, all three articles are just an extended criticism of Conservapedia. As I am associated with Conservapedia (but not exactly a huge fan), I would ask that you look over the articles and decide what, if any, criticism is acceptable according to the standards of this website.
==Upgrade and logo stuff - open to all==
Please check out [[WikiIndex:New logo decision]] and [[WikiIndex:Spring 2011 Upgrade Path]], Best, [[MarkDilley]]


Thanks, [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:11, 21 November 2008 (EST)
==[[LexingtonWiki]] Feedback==
I appreciate your feedback and input on the [[LexingtonWiki]]. I am honored that you visited and equally embarrassed that you had difficulty. We recently upgraded to MediaWiki v1.17 and catastrophe befell us. Overnight one night last week we installed the upgrade and spent eight hours attempting to perfect the configuration. When I returned some hours later, I was not permitted to log in. The system rejects me as it did you. As I am unfamiliar with MediaWiki and (to a certain extent) Php, I don't know how to fix it.


: I've left a few comments on the Wikiindex talk pages corresponding to the above wiki, and also at [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Conservapedia, RationalWiki etc]].
Again, thank you for your visit, my apologies for the glitch and a promise to let you know when I get it fixed!  --[[Special:Contributions/ScottSchaefer|ScottSchaefer]] 10:00, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
: Is the current compromise acceptable to everyone? If so, then it's time to take down the "Edit Warring" box from these WikiIndex articles. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:47, 24 November 2008 (EST)
::Thanks for your help. I think (fingers crossed) that the edit-warring should be done now. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:46, 24 November 2008 (EST)


== Thanks to the fabulous [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ==
: WARNING - David, forgive me for butting in - but I need to alert you to the fact that [[Special:Contributions/ScottSchaefer|User:ScottSchaefer]] is basically a spammer!  Virtually all of his [[Special:Contributions/ScottSchaefer|edits here]] on [[WikiIndex]] primarilly contain URLs to his own external sites - including his commercial blog and his commercial site for website design (which also offers SEO optimisation) - they contain NO 'internal' WikiIndex wikilinks.  Yes, granted, he has created an entry on here called [[LexingtonWiki]] - but that too (on here) was full of external URLs - primarily relating to his own commercial enterprises, rather than any actual content on his 'wiki'.  Finally, looking directly at his LexingtonWiki - it is both plagued by spam (including the usual medications for 'erectile dysfunction'), along with many entries blatantly copied and pasted directly from the [[English Wikipedia]] (presumably to somehow 'boost' his viability of his 'web sites' by inflating his page count).<br>I personally would recommend leaving the [[LexingtonWiki]] article on here (it is afterall a viable wiki - albeit an extremely unethical one!) - but block [[Special:Contributions/ScottSchaefer|User:ScottSchaefer]] - on the grounds that he tried to use WikiIndex to blatantly peddle spam by subversively inserting non-wiki URLs into a wide range of articles (primarily userpages, sub-userpages, talkpages and images).  Just my recommendation - and although I may only be a 'regular editor' (rather than a sysop), I hope you can agree that I have been a trustworthy editor, and one which is making [[:Category:Active contributors to this wiki|an active and positive contribution]] to WikiIndex - by both improving articles, and improving 'housekeeping' of templates, categories and the likes.  Best regards  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 15:11, 30 December 2011 (PST)


it is [[:Category:GreatFeature]] - Best, [[MarkDilley]]
==The ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki==
Isn't there a way to actually delete the page? --[[Special:Contributions/Joel amos|Joel amos]] 07:34, 2 February 2011 (PST)


==PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI==
:Where is the Wiki for this Logo? [[File:ACC Bible Quizzing Logo.png]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:31, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
She has not made one useful edit, [http://www.wikiindex.org/User:Patricia_Martellotti her first userpage had a link to her website] while later edits [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:PATRICIA_MARTELLOTTI&oldid=66673 just say how good she thinks she is].  I don't think she's interested in helping us, she just uses us to advertise herself. There's [[User:Patricia Martellotti]] with a link to her website and [[User:PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI]] who wrote loads of stuff about her qualifications. 


http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:DavidCary&action=edit&section=11
:: Dear {{U|Manorainjan}}, have you heard about our [[WikiIndex:Opt out]] guideline?
I think I may have made a mistake and thought she edited the Welcome page telling people about herself. I've looked at recent changes again and I think I mixed her edits up with someone else as in fact someone else edited the Welcome Template responsibly just before she edited, sorry. Let's leave her unblocked and see what she does. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:26, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
:: That wiki is hosted on [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]. Its [[sysop]] created a "The ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki" page on WikiIndex linking to that quizzing wiki. After its sysop later changed his mind and asked us to delete that WikiIndex page (see [[User talk:MarkDilley/Archive5#ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki]] and [[User talk:Joel amos]]), and confirming that on that quizzing wiki itself, we did what he asked -- we deleted our WikiIndex page about that wiki. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|talk]]) 09:45, 24 April 2015 (PDT)


You deal with [[User:PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI]] if anything needs to be done, she's back today. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 16:54, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
OK, noted that on the files page. [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 23:12, 24 April 2015 (PDT)


[[User:PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI]] is writing more and more about herself but [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/Patricia_Martellotti hasn't made a useful contribution].  I see now [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=53873 she did edit the welcome template] with one of her accounts so I think a block was fair. She hasn't repeated it but since I know now that she did spam the welcome template I've put warnings onto the talk pages of both her accounts so any administrator who deals with her can see she's been warned. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:30, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
==Unbundling of Wiki status, Edit mode, Membership mode*, View mode* & Connect mode*==
Please check this out: [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Table of what could be]] and give us Your input  --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


[[User:PATRICIA MARTELLOTTI]] now claims that she's new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.  I don't know if she's telling the truth and really mistook us for a social networking site or if she's playing sophisticated games and pretending she's been hurt. [[User:Elassint]] put a message up with large letters saying, '''"Please note that we are an index of wiki, wiki people and wiki ideas, contributions outside of that scope may be treated as test edits and be removed."''' and she can't have edited any page without the chance to see that message.  Well sometimes people do overlook the obvious.  [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:PATRICIA_MARTELLOTTI&oldid=66842 I've apologized and explained what we're for]. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:18, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
==Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki?==
Discussion [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Alternative Infoboxes|here]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 19:42, 27 August 2014 (UTC)


:She's sent me an email asking for all traces of her to disappear. I think that can be done. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 01:01, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
==narrowing down the problem with email verification==
I (Manorainjan ;-) assume, that Your account is email-verified. Please add the domain part of Your email to this [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Table of results|Table of results]] so that we can see more clearly, which servers work and which not.


:: What went wrong here, and is there anything I can do differently next time, so we have a better chance of things going right next time?
==Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns==
:: I find the WikiIndex and other wiki a useful resource, and they are growing and getting better all the time.
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to the upcoming [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and solicit your help in making the transition a positive rather than negative experience.  Please take a moment to visit [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] and curate the list of concerns. Thanks! -- [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 22:38, 14 November 2014 (UTC) (call forwarded by [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC))
:: Alas, spammers are ruining it for everyone.
:: Proxima is valiantly fighting the spammers, which I appreciate.


:: What I'm seeing diverges so strongly from the above description that it makes me think I'm missing half the story.
==Weigh in on [[WikiIndex:Proposal: domain name change#Poll]]?==
:: As far as I can tell by looking at the "User contributions" pages, this person has never made an active link, which is consistent with the "new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.", and inconsistent with "Spamming links to external sites".
I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential [[WikiIndex:Proposal: domain name change|decision to change the domain of this wiki]]. I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion. Thanks! [[User:BrandonCsSanders|BrandonCsSanders]] ([[User talk:BrandonCsSanders|talk]]) 20:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
:: As far as I can tell, she has posted only one URL one time (but without the WikiSyntax to make it active), and that one URL was on her user page (which has already been deleted, so normal users can't see that URL) -- far fewer than a typical spammer, and even fewer than the number of URLs at [[User:Proxima Centauri]], fewer than the number of URLs that Proxima Centauri posted to her user page [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:PATRICIA_MARTELLOTTI&diff=prev&oldid=66674].
:: As far as I can tell, her later edits seem to be listing verifiable information about where she has worked to her user page, which seems similar to the way the [[User:Proxima Centauri]] page lists some of the other wiki he has worked on. I fail to see any claims that she was "good" at any of them, or any information about what she "thinks".
:: As far as I can tell, this person has made only a couple of edits before 8 June 2009, and none of her edits include any WikiSyntax formatting. This is consistent with the "new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.".


:: Sean, I've put the {{tl|delete}} template on her user pages, and in a week or so I'll delete them.
==Hello==
:: That gives other people time to check out what actually happened before the evidence is lost.
So nice to see you David!  And this is a [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=S23-Wiki&curid=1985&diff=212744&oldid=203925 nice catch].  I have a couple wiki on the [[wiki farm]] and I need to ask about my own domain name and style. Hope you are well. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:: I wish that when someone asked "Please help", there is something more productive and friendly that we could do -- other than delete all evidence that person was ever here ([[MeatBall: RightToVanish]]).
:: And in this particular case, I worry that a few minor mistakes by WikiIndex regulars will lead to a news reporter getting an incorrect understanding of wiki.
:: Sean, could you email this person and recommend trying some other, friendlier wiki -- perhaps some dedicated to topics she is interested in or dedicated to the city she lives in, wherever that might be? Perhaps we have a chance to prevent a news reporter from tarring all wiki with the same brush. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 05:39, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:::What I gathered from a very brief email correspondence is that she googled herself, her page here came up pretty high, and she realized the newbie-ness of it has the potential for some embarrassment. Being a public figure I suppose you can't ever be too careful about what you have out there. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 02:24, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Just found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Patricia_Martellotti this]. Looks like this isn't the first time this has happened. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 02:29, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Thanks for digging that up.  I had the feeling that she was playing some game, eg when I tried to apologise she just got more upset. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patricia_Martellotti She vandalized Wikipedia] as well and is permanently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3APatricia+Martellotti blocked] there for troublemaking. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 05:16, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

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test - this is only a test[edit]

Please ignore this test for John about email. TedErnst | talk 01:20, 14 May 2006 (EDT)

sysop?[edit]

Any reason for you not to be a sysop? I'd be happy to make you one. TedErnst | talk 18:19, 18 September 2006 (EDT)

Well, if you overlook the long periods where neglect WikiIndex, punctuated by brief periods where I obsessively make mis-guided edits ... and my questionable code of ethics ... Sure, why not? :-) --DavidCary 21:52, 22 September 2006 (EDT)
Yea!!! Another misguided sysop! welcome :-) MarkDilley
Indeed, welcome! TedErnst | talk 10:56, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Thank you. Ooh, what's this shiny new "Block user" button I see now when I look at User talk:DavidCary ? I wonder what happens when I push it ... Doh! --DavidCary 23:05, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

request[edit]

Could you delete my userpage, 'User:Canderous' and the page 'Canderous'? Thanks Canderous 05:16, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

Too late -- I see that someone else has already done this for you. --DavidCary 23:13, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

etwas Deutsch zur Abwechslung[edit]

Hallo David, sag mal, was ist deine Zeitzone? --Wolf | talk 16:53, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Mein Zeitzone ist UTC - 5 ("Tulsa time"). Warum? --DavidCary 17:06, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
weil ich dabei bin, die Benutzer nach Zeitzone zu ordnen, damit sie leichter verstehen, warum jemand anders gerade nicht aktiv ist oder nicht auf eine Mitteilung achtet. Deine ist also z.B. um 7 Stunden gegen meine versetzt. Deshalb muss ich jetzt auch Schluss machen. Beste Grüße! --Wolf | talk 17:22, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

adding new wikis plan - and idea for collaboration[edit]

Hi David, seeing Peu's frustrated message (cuz I was going to add a bunch to the page :-) - I thought, maybe I could do something about my guilt and organize a time (an hour) to work with you and whoever else wants to put a dent into WikiProject:Wikis to Add. You up for a hour together on the wiki, maybe on skype or irc too? Peu or anyone else, interested? Best, MarkDilley

Sounds like a great idea. I am under the impression that I can just take a few wiki off that list and create new pages for them, without any collaboration needed. Is there something specific we need to coordinate? --DavidCary 00:18, 15 February 2008 (EST)
I'm still interested in the project, I'll do my best transforming entries into article stubs. Unfortunately my time is currently very limited, nonetheless please keep me up-to-date. --Wolf | talk 07:14, 15 February 2008 (EST)
David, you have the technical part right! :-) - I am interested in a social part, like a mini barn raising on these, say we choose a few hours to work together, or a day, and count how many we have been able to add? Trying to get up my energy for tackling the problem. Wolf Peuker suggests that we not add more to this list and I have dozens more in my bookmark folder to add... Just and idea to create something. Best, MarkDilley

Excellent. Certainly I agree with Peu that it is better to have a full page on each wiki, rather than a one-liner in the WikiProject:Wikis to Add. And if we could motivate people to do that, then that would be the best all around.

On the other hand, I suspect that if we discourage people from adding to "Wikis to Add", then those people will keep that information to themselves. In something called a "bookmark folder". Just a hunch I have. Then when I search WikiIndex for a wiki on some topic, I won't find anything at all :-(.

When searching for some topic, I'd rather at least find a one-line mention of that topic in the "Wikis to Add" page, then I can be happy that I've found other wiki-positive people who share my interest in that topic :-). It's certainly much less work for me to take a link off the "Wikis to Add" page and create a page for it, than to hack into Mark Dilley's bookmark folder to find it and *then* create a page for it :-).

I'm no expert, but perhaps there is a better way to motivate and encourage ourselves and other people to:

  • take one wiki at a time off the list on that page, and create a page for it.

What exactly is stopping people from doing that now?

<brainstorming>

  • Perhaps few people know about that page? -> perhaps we could mention it more prominently ... somewhere ... (It's already mentioned on the Community Portal).
  • Perhaps people are scared to edit a page once it gets above a certain size? -> somehow chop it up into smaller, less-overwhelming pieces ...
  • Perhaps people don't know the right process for taking a wiki off that list and making a fresh page for it? -> somehow write better, friendlier, easier to understand instructions?
  • Perhaps people do know the right process, but it seems like a lot of work? Or it requires several steps including X and Y, and some people don't feel comfortable doing X, while others don't feel comfortable doing Y? -> somehow Break it up into smaller steps, encourage people -- especially newbies -- to find some task they feel comfortable doing, make a little forward progress at a time, and make it easy for others to pick up where the last person left off.
  • Perhaps the process of creating a really good page about a wiki requires both X, Y, and Z, but lots of pages are stalled out waiting for Y? -> perhaps, somehow encourage more people to do more Y work. Make it easy for obsessive-compulsives to plow through a whole lot of repetitive Y work for many different wiki. Give people little pictures of barnstars or chocolate-chip cookies when they achieve significant amounts of Y work. Make it a game.
  • Some other reason? ...
  • ...? -> Or is there something better we could do?

</brainstorming>

OK, that's enough of me rambling on *about* the problem, rather than actually *doing* something productive. --DavidCary 17:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)

politics.ie wiki[edit]

Since you contributed to Politics.ie article, wanted you to know of a question at Talk:Politics.ie Wiki. --EarthFurst 17:44, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Wikitubia[edit]

Could you help with the infobox on the Wikitubia article? --Yowling wolfie 13:43, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

Sssssss... Get out of bed! {scares Dave out of bed} --Snuffleupagus 12:38, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
Fixed now, forgot to close. --Yowling wolfie 12:31, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

measuring wiki size[edit]

Hi, I have a quick question. When measuring a wikis size, do we go by total pages? (I.e. all the talk pages included) or just articles? Thanks. - JacjohncolesTalk|Contribs 19:44, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

Does the discussion at WikiIndex talk:WikiProject - By Size answer your question?
For wiki that use the MediaWiki software, I think we are currently only including articles, not including talk pages or redirects or user pages.
--DavidCary 15:18, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

I'm Snuffleupagus! [makes furnace noises through snuffle] f-f-f-f-f-f [in a normal voice] Get out of bed! [pokes Dave with snuffle, Dave jumps out of bed] --Snuffleupagus 12:09, 4 November 2008 (EST)

Request for neutral admin[edit]

Hello, I have already asked User:Comets to help with this issue, but he has not responded. Perhaps you can help.

We need the assistance of a neutral admin to help decide the direction of Conservapedia, RationalWiki, and The Conservapedia RationalWiki war. As it stands, all three articles are being edited almost exclusively by editors of RationalWiki, a site started to criticize Conservapedia. As such, all three articles are just an extended criticism of Conservapedia. As I am associated with Conservapedia (but not exactly a huge fan), I would ask that you look over the articles and decide what, if any, criticism is acceptable according to the standards of this website.

Thanks, JazzMan 17:11, 21 November 2008 (EST)

I've left a few comments on the WikiIndex talk pages corresponding to the above wiki, and also at Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Conservapedia, RationalWiki etc.
Is the current compromise acceptable to everyone? If so, then it's time to take down the "Edit Warring" box from these WikiIndex articles. --DavidCary 11:47, 24 November 2008 (EST)
Thanks for your help. I think (fingers crossed) that the edit-warring should be done now. JazzMan 14:46, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Thanks to the fabulous MarvelZuvembie[edit]

it is Category:great feature - Best, MarkDilley

right to vanish[edit]

...

She's sent me an email asking for all traces of her to disappear. I think that can be done. — User:Sean Fennel@ 01:01, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
Sean, I've put the {{delete}} template on her user pages, and in a week or so I'll delete them.

...

I wish that when someone asked "Please help", there is something more productive and friendly that we could do -- other than delete all evidence that person was ever here (MeatBall: RightToVanish).
And in this particular case, I worry that a few minor mistakes by WikiIndex regulars will lead to a news reporter getting an incorrect understanding of wiki.
... --DavidCary 05:39, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

... this section ... I suggest deleteing it after a day or two when people connected with this wiki have had a chance to see it. Proxima Centauri 13:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

I respect this one's desire to vanish from this wiki. I hope someday this one will choose to return to wiki, and become a respected contributor to this and other wiki.
Done. --DavidCary 17:17, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

Block[edit]

I blocked an unregistered user because the user made unpleasant or harrassing comments about someone else in the deleted article, Dave muistaine. I don't know if it was friendly teasing or a serious attempt to blacken someone's reputation but I feel the rule should be that when aparently inocent third parties are involved the accused should not get the benifit of any doubt. In any case this wiki isn't here for schoolkids or childish adults to call others names. It seems this is Dave Mustaine, I don't like his music but I'm not sure we should let people insult him here. Proxima Centauri 13:43, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Yes, this looks like a childish grade-school insult. I agree that such things should be immediately deleted, and the person who said it banned for a short time. But I have hopes that such children will soon learn that such things are unacceptable, and learn to be productive -- and so I don't want to ban them forever. On the other hand, spammers who flood a page with dozens of off-topic links -- I am tempted to ban them forever. However, I don't want to unnecessarily block innocent users who use dynamic IP addresses that were once used by a spammer. I would appreciate your thoughts on which actions should trigger a ban, and for how long, at WikiIndex:Blocking and banning policy. --DavidCary 20:07, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

Huw Powell[edit]

User:Huw Powell is stirring things up and harming this wiki, if I weren't personally involved I would warn him or block him, I suspect Peu will come back sooner if Powell stays away. Proxima Centauri 13:47, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

You are stirring up trouble and harming this wiki. And now that one administrator has already declined to join you in your personal vendetta, you're running away for help from other administrator. Maybe you should listen to Peu?

I'm clearing out the junk form my mailbox and when I've finished I'll send you an email, sorry it took so long. Proxima Centauri 14:43, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

User:Jonah Musto[edit]

I thought I'd draw your attention to User:Jonah Musto and User talk:Jonah Musto, you may want to do the Google search yourself. Proxima Centauri 05:25, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

User:Jonah Musto has been blocked for six months after repeat vandalism which ordinary users cleared up. I’ve also had this experience of trying to sort out vandalism on wikis where I’m not a sysop and it’s very frustrating. See, User talk:Proxima Centauri#User:Jonah Musto I wish I’d blocked him for longer the first time he got blocked. Proxima Centauri 14:55, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

I've blocked another likely sockpuppet of JM and deleted more copyright images of ceiling fans. We need to patrol this wiki often at the moment but too much discussion feeds trolls. Proxima Centauri 15:02, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

Thank you for blocking the apparent sockpuppet. I think the approach of blocking for a short time, then blocking for longer times, is entirely appropriate.
I wish there was some way to encourage this person to focus that energy into something more useful. --DavidCary 16:10, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

A different editor[edit]

Are there instructions for beginners? Proxima Centauri 06:00, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

Welcome[edit]

I've created

How many languages do you recognise? :-)
Hello, DavidCary — Welcome to WikiIndex :-)
WikiIndex aims to build bridges between wiki communities. We hope that you will enjoy browsing and editing this wiki.

Our goal is to make an index of all wiki sites. We appreciate your help in our ongoing quest.

Your contributions and your ideas are greatly valued. Thank you!

which is adapted from Liberapedia. Is it OK for this wiki? Proxima Centauri 09:20, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

Nope. Well, I mean, I like the *idea* of a standardized welcome template Template:Welcome. But even I can see glitches in this rough draft, as most people can see glitches in almost any rough draft. I'm going to fix the things that are obvious to me right now. Please feel free to tweak it and make further improvements and propose it to the Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki. --DavidCary 21:56, 9 August 2009 (EDT)

RationalWiki[edit]

I threatened to block Phantom Hoover because I feel this user is harassing me across wikis. Further people need to know where criticism of Conservapedia can be found now that RationalWiki is down and the Hoover removed this information. Proxima Centauri 15:18, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Wikipedia has a rule that sysops should not block in cases where they are in dispute, and this works well for a giant wiki with over a thousand sysops. It doesn't work so well for a small wiki with a few overworked sysops. Further, I feel I understand the situation over Conservapedia and its critics and I feel the information that Phantom Hoover removed should stay at least until RationalWiki is running again. Proxima Centauri 15:33, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

User:Nx has been blocked for 3 days. He has no excuse for not knowing that he shouldn't remove content from pages as he edited User talk:Phantom Hoover where there is a warning. Proxima Centauri 15:45, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

These two users are deliberately trolling and being rude, on many wikis both would be blocked for this type of rudeness to an administrator. Proxima Centauri 15:48, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Nx and I have done nothing but clean up the mess you left behind. Phantom Hoover 15:50, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
On many wikis you wouldn't be an administrator after this kind of thing. I have justified my removal's of content. I did not remove meaningful content, in fact I added the backup thing instead of a quote. I am not trolling. 65.60.53.250 15:52, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
Yeah, but it's clear that this place has fairly incompetent administration anyway, given that they sysopped her in the first place. Phantom Hoover 15:56, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

"Shoo, and go back to pretending you have power on Liberapedia, rather than pimping it on sites which matter. Phantom Hoover 15:09, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Ignore the inhospitableness of Proxima Centauri, seeing as how she's running to other sysops for reassurance, I'm sure she can't do much. Nx 15:19, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Yaay! Where did she run for reassurance? Phantom Hoover 15:34, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
Found it. Why do I feel that she comprises half the comments here? Phantom Hoover 15:37, 23 August 2009 (EDT)"

The rudeness above is copied from User talk:Phantom Hoover and I'm tired of that type of thing. Proxima Centauri 16:20, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

You threatened a block instead of welcoming me; I don't exactly call that polite. Moreover, you blocked Nx, who had only removed incorrect information, for three freaking days. Phantom Hoover 16:24, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
(ec) Rude, that? Which part, that you were inhospitable? Isn't that true: you reverted an editor on sight without any explanation, then threatened him with a block. Then you reverted and blocked me without warning and justification. I have sent emails to Mr. Ernst and Mr. Stanton, and I hope one of them will reply. Also, I won't lower myself to your level and block you at RationalWiki, but I will remove your sysop rights there as you are clearly incapable of using these powers properly, as you have demonstrated before. 76.73.76.122 16:27, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Dispute Resolution[edit]

Hey David, wanted to see if you were interested in dispute resolution, my suggestion is here ~~ MarkDilley

OK, I'll check it out. --DavidCary 01:27, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

You seem to be sane![edit]

Can you please re-add the descriptions to the Liberapedia, RationalWikiWiki and Conservapedia articles, as they contained nothing whatsoever controversial. Phantom Hoover 11:14, 8 September 2009 (EDT)

I'll, um, take that as a complement. Let me look... --DavidCary 01:27, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Sigh...[edit]

UPDATE people SET sanity="insane" WHERE name="DavidCary"; Phantom Hoover 12:53, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Wait, hang on, I misunderstood! UPDATE people SET sanity="sane" WHERE name="DavidCary"; Many apologies. Phantom Hoover 13:25, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
Replied, in your other hobgoblin hole. Lumenos 13:13, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
Dear Phantom Hoover, that was confusing. Apology accepted. If only the other misunderstandings and over-reactions could be corrected as easily ... :-) --DavidCary 13:42, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

New?[edit]

Question about New status at Category talk:New. --EarthFurst 19:46, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

SlideWiki is restored. Thanks to your signaled interest[edit]

Hello David, thanks to your friendly interest, Meatball:SlideWiki on SeedWiki is back. I left a link there, said a public thank you to you and KennethTyler in Meatball:RecentChanges. I would love to transfer this domain free of charge to you, your friends or anybody interested, in the sense of FreeGainSharing as part of the SocialDomaining experiment, which itself is part of our grassroot WikiNomics initiative. --Fridemar 12:20, 3 December 2009 (EST) FridemarPache

I see that the Slidewiki is now back online at http://seedwiki.com/wiki/slidewiki/ . Yay! I hope that http://SlideWiki.net/ will soon point to it.

The ExtremeOpenBusiness sounds like a fascinating experiment. What would you like me to do?

Thank you for offering SlideWiki.net domain name to me. I am flattered that you trust me to put it to good use. But I honestly don't know what I need to do to accept it. I suppose I could write you a check. Or I could send you a payment through PayPal. Or I could offer to trade one of my domains for it, such as http://visualwiki.org/ . And then what? As of 2009, nearly all my experience with domain names is buying domains that I intend to use myself, buying domains that do not yet exist, directly through a domain name registrar. As of 2009, I never bought a pre-existing domain, so I'm a little fuzzy on the process. --DavidCary 20:03, 12 March 2010 (EST)

Hallo David, just noticed your message here via Meatball. You could have SlideWiki.net transferred by FreeGainsharing as depicted in https://aboutus.org/FreeGainSharing, https://aboutus.org/SocialDomaining and https://aboutus.org/2pen.org (abstracting from the fixed price offer there). If you enter the WikiConversation in one of the above aboutus.org pages, I get an email-notification. (Currently Meatball appears to be defunct (at least) for me, and this in edit- as well as in discussion-mode. If you happen to see Mark, give him a friendly nudge to remind him, that I am waiting for his response).

Accept suggestion to sell the domain slidewiki.net as SocialDomaining via OpenBusiness[edit]

David, thank you for appreciating the concept and the domain. For simplifying the procedure, I suggest, that you open a free domain-account at http://namePros.com, to which I can transfer the domain slidewiki.net nearly immediately (without the delays, that can occur on external domain transfers).

To authentify, that you are the right David, and in accordance to your suggestion to consider a payment, I ask you to send me 50USD via my paypal-frontstore and would love to help you in the wiki to start our common mindchild.

If this is too much money, feel free to suggest another price. I would love to make the transaction an instance of WikiPedia:OpenBusiness ( an article, which I edited in the last days). --Fridemar 10:07, 13 April 2010 (EDT)

[edit]

Hello, I was hoping you could remove the old CsWiki logo (Image:CSWikiLogo.JPG), so I could upload the new logo for the updated wiki.

It looks like someone else has already updated the Counter-Strike Wiki article with the new logo. Is there anything else I can do to help? --DavidCary 09:18, 17 June 2010 (EDT)

wiki.GIS.com on WikiIndex[edit]

Just in case you missed my response on wiki.GIS.coms' Discussion Room, I wanted to say thank you for linking/listing us within the WikiIndex. As I find time, I will go in and edit the current content to reflect on our wiki and what we are trying to accomplish as well as what we are all about. --Collin July 27, 2010

Not sure I get it[edit]

Why you moved wiki.GIS.com to geographic information system wiki. Best, MarkDilley

get it now

Two well-meaning people independently created these two pages, both of them pointing to the same URL (and therefore the same wiki). Redundant. So I merged all the text onto one page. I wasn't sure which name was better, so I picked the one with the oldest history on WikiIndex. Then left the other page as a redirect. Feel free to move the merged page to the other name if you think it is better.

I'm a little worried that this wiki will be added to WikiIndex a few dozen more times, because when I search for "GIS" from the WikiIndex search box, I come up empty, leading to the (false) conclusion that this wiki is not already listed in the WikiIndex. --DavidCary 22:10, 6 August 2010 (EDT)

thank you for the further clarification, will try to make an edit to see if GIS issue can be bludgeoned. :-) Best, MarkDilley

Hello![edit]

Hello, this is Star651. You know that note you sent me after I wrote all those articles? Well, thank you! I need your email address so we can talk in private, and not have other WikiIndexers know what we're saying. Star651 12:40, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

[edit]

Hi David, can you check out, contribute if you want - WikiIndex:Admin Notes#October 2010 Upgrade Thoughts - best, MarkDilley

Reply[edit]

See here. Is that policy also here? ht14 (talk) 19:19, 27 October 2010 (PDT)

Nice work with Joel[edit]

I appreciate the way you are working on the wiki David. Best, MarkDilley

ATWiki[edit]

Thanks for started the ATWiki wiki. Do you have an account at ATWiki? I was hoping you would ask an ATWiki admin to check the articles that LyanOsalia has created. ( http://atwiki.assistivetech.net/index.php/Special:Contributions/LyanOsalia ) They all seem to be ads for hooksandlattice website. --EarthFurst 16:05, 11 February 2011 (PST)

Upgrade and logo stuff - open to all[edit]

Please check out WikiIndex:New logo decision and WikiIndex:Spring 2011 Upgrade Path, Best, MarkDilley

LexingtonWiki Feedback[edit]

I appreciate your feedback and input on the LexingtonWiki. I am honored that you visited and equally embarrassed that you had difficulty. We recently upgraded to MediaWiki v1.17 and catastrophe befell us. Overnight one night last week we installed the upgrade and spent eight hours attempting to perfect the configuration. When I returned some hours later, I was not permitted to log in. The system rejects me as it did you. As I am unfamiliar with MediaWiki and (to a certain extent) Php, I don't know how to fix it.

Again, thank you for your visit, my apologies for the glitch and a promise to let you know when I get it fixed! --ScottSchaefer 10:00, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

WARNING - David, forgive me for butting in - but I need to alert you to the fact that User:ScottSchaefer is basically a spammer! Virtually all of his edits here on WikiIndex primarilly contain URLs to his own external sites - including his commercial blog and his commercial site for website design (which also offers SEO optimisation) - they contain NO 'internal' WikiIndex wikilinks. Yes, granted, he has created an entry on here called LexingtonWiki - but that too (on here) was full of external URLs - primarily relating to his own commercial enterprises, rather than any actual content on his 'wiki'. Finally, looking directly at his LexingtonWiki - it is both plagued by spam (including the usual medications for 'erectile dysfunction'), along with many entries blatantly copied and pasted directly from the English Wikipedia (presumably to somehow 'boost' his viability of his 'web sites' by inflating his page count).
I personally would recommend leaving the LexingtonWiki article on here (it is afterall a viable wiki - albeit an extremely unethical one!) - but block User:ScottSchaefer - on the grounds that he tried to use WikiIndex to blatantly peddle spam by subversively inserting non-wiki URLs into a wide range of articles (primarily userpages, sub-userpages, talkpages and images). Just my recommendation - and although I may only be a 'regular editor' (rather than a sysop), I hope you can agree that I have been a trustworthy editor, and one which is making an active and positive contribution to WikiIndex - by both improving articles, and improving 'housekeeping' of templates, categories and the likes. Best regards Hoof Hearted 15:11, 30 December 2011 (PST)

The ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki[edit]

Isn't there a way to actually delete the page? --Joel amos 07:34, 2 February 2011 (PST)

Where is the Wiki for this Logo? ACC Bible Quizzing Logo.png Manorainjan (talk) 15:31, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Dear Manorainjan, have you heard about our WikiIndex:Opt out guideline?
That wiki is hosted on Wikia. Its sysop created a "The ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki" page on WikiIndex linking to that quizzing wiki. After its sysop later changed his mind and asked us to delete that WikiIndex page (see User talk:MarkDilley/Archive5#ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki and User talk:Joel amos), and confirming that on that quizzing wiki itself, we did what he asked -- we deleted our WikiIndex page about that wiki. --DavidCary (talk) 09:45, 24 April 2015 (PDT)

OK, noted that on the files page. Manorainjan 23:12, 24 April 2015 (PDT)

Unbundling of Wiki status, Edit mode, Membership mode*, View mode* & Connect mode*[edit]

Please check this out: WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Table of what could be and give us Your input --Manorainjan (talk) 19:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki?[edit]

Discussion here. --MarvelZuvembie (talk) 19:42, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

narrowing down the problem with email verification[edit]

I (Manorainjan ;-) assume, that Your account is email-verified. Please add the domain part of Your email to this Table of results so that we can see more clearly, which servers work and which not.

Request for ServerMove concerns[edit]

I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to the upcoming ServerMove and solicit your help in making the transition a positive rather than negative experience. Please take a moment to visit ServerMove and curate the list of concerns. Thanks! -- BrandonCsSanders (talk) 22:38, 14 November 2014 (UTC) (call forwarded by Manorainjan (talk) 23:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC))

Weigh in on WikiIndex:Proposal: domain name change#Poll?[edit]

I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential decision to change the domain of this wiki. I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion. Thanks! BrandonCsSanders (talk) 20:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

So nice to see you David! And this is a nice catch. I have a couple wiki on the wiki farm and I need to ask about my own domain name and style. Hope you are well. Best, MarkDilley