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| Hey All, wanted to see if you were interested in dispute resolution, my suggestion is [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AThis_is_not_the_solution&diff=69572&oldid=69536 here] ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | | Hey All, wanted to see if you were interested in dispute resolution, my suggestion is [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AThis_is_not_the_solution&diff=69572&oldid=69536 here] ~~ [[MarkDilley]] |
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| I have experience mainly acting as an administrator on controversial wikis where it's not usual to assume good faith and you probably have more experience than I do about assuming good faith. Please bear in mind that as Wikiindex grows the wiki will become better known and will attract more spammers, vandals and trolls. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:46, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
| | (I've moved the comments that were placed here, to [[User_talk:This_is_not_the_solution#Comments_relocated_from_MarkDilley.27s_talk_page|the page MarkDilley created for this purpose]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:33, 30 August 2009 (EDT) ) |
| :Nx and I are both '''bureaucrats''' at RationalWiki; while that isn't as significant as on other wikis, it still implies a fair degree of respect in the community. That's not exactly your archetypical troll. Moreover, you knew that we aren't trolls. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 15:02, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
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| :What controversial wikis where it's not usual to assume good faith on do you hold power? The only one I can think of is RW, and you were explicitly called out on your block-happy behaviour. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 15:05, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
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| [[User:Phantom Hoover]] has started insulting [[User:Lumenos]] as well as insulting me, see [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex_talk:Blocking_Policy&curid=18619&diff=69767&oldid=69762&rcid=74722 here]. I would like to warn him or block him a second time but you seem to assume good faith even when problem users are upsetting other users. You decide what to do. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:03, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| :'''Insulting?''' What? I pointed out that zombie computers aren't likely to be used on this wiki when any determined vandal would just use proxies or Tor. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 07:33, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| <blockquote>You can secure your router well with WEP. Anyway, how many zombie computers are there going to be attacking Wikiindex? Think sensibly.[http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex_talk:Blocking_Policy&curid=18619&diff=69767&oldid=69762&rcid=74722] </blockquote>
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| That's insulting. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 08:56, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| :Very well. Show me a justified example of vandalism from a zombie computer. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 09:02, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| :That is quite far from what I consider to be an insult. I suppose he is saying we aren't sensible but suggesting he should be blocked over that, is way over the line, in my view. It is only an opinion. Why do these things bother you so much? I'm trying to imagine how my words will sound if you interpret them in the most defensive way possible. I hope I don't sound mean or anything. I'm glad you are seeking a second opinion on this, but I'm beginning to think that you are way too trigger happy with that block button. I haven't known you for long but I say that as a friend. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:48, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| ::<nowiki>*</nowiki>hugs Lumenos* [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:53, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| :::Wait are you a dude? :-) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:59, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| ::::Yes, but I've spent several days trying to convince people that she is block-happy, and it's a huge relief for someone to say that. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 17:00, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| :::::I suppose you mean someone who isn't a RW regular. Well I hadn't seen it before, but in PC's defense, she didn't actually block, but it suggests that she may have before for something that minor. You could direct us to the evidence. Like [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page= the block log] and the blocks that you feel are illegitimate. I'm pretty exhausted at the moment so I may be able to convince myself to go to bed now. I'm not saying she is a bad sysop until some editors are actually willing to establish a [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines|policy]] and we see if she and they will adhere to that. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:57, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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| ::::::She blocked [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Proxima+Centauri&page=User%3ANx Nx] for changing the RationalWiki article to remove advertisements for Liperapedia, two conflicting incorrect dates and various erroneous statements, like the thing about the backups. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 04:13, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
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