User talk:Manorainjan

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Template:TOCright

usefull

inactive

Category:Computer Category:Inactive Category:Wiki People Images

Maybe Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Inactive is the better way to clear out this category. At least we can target the template use directly. ;-/ Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 11:06, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
OK, no much difference for me. But I shall wait to proceed until MarvelZuvembie stops encapsulating entries after me.Manorainjan (talk) 11:18, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I really need to have a free full day to myself before I can give my full detailed point of view on this issue. At least a good few of us seem to be getting up a head of steam on this issue, in the past when it was raised, because we were met with a wall of resistance, it fizzled out and we gave up. Now we both have a similar viewpoint, hopefully we can get this issue sorted. Impressed with your effort and energy here on WikiIndex - hope you don't burn out!!!! Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 20:11, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Don't worry, I have fun doing this. Manorainjan (talk) 20:17, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you.

You are truly a knight in shining armour. I can not thank you enough for your kind understanding. Omgosh, it was horrific. I know I've much to learn but it does not mean I've nothing to offer. Well, now to relax and recuperate from that ordeal. Sincerely, Sonia Sonia de Lorraine (talk) 11:26, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you again. G'night now. I need sleep. Sonia Sonia de Lorraine (talk) 11:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Policy discussions

Hi. There seems to be a lot of fresh policy discussions cropping up on my talk page, Mark's talk page, and no doubt a few others. Can we please ensure these are discussed in more appropriate places. Either Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki if it just concerns issues which only sysops can deal with, or WikiIndex talk:Community portal for all other wiki-wide discussions. I'll add this same message on other appropriate users talk pages. Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 21:13, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if you are aware we have a template for auto-categorising wiki logo, it being template:WikiLogoOf? Simply add {{WikiLogoOf|Name of wiki article here on WikiIndex}}. This then creates a simple one line sentance desribing where the logo is used (complete with a wikilink to said article), and also includes it into Category:WikiLogo. Best, Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 12:10, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Please, PLEASE, PLEASE — can you please use only the above template to categorise wiki logos. Please do not use [[Category:WikiLogo]]. Thanks. Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 11:05, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Silly! I just tried this on File:Asianmediawiki2.jpg and AsianWiki. It results in "This logo is used by AsianWiki." When You take away the logo from the Wiki-page, it still says so. The template lies. Also it does not say which logo the Wiki itself uses, because that is actually no logo at all. (our Logo is outdated.) And in case this logo is indeed used by a Wiki or other page, the file-page says so in the last lines anyway. So no use of that template, just complicating "work". In addition to that, many pics are Wiki-logos but are not used by the page or even that Wiki page does not exist. For those cases this template is really unfit. Manorainjan (talk) 20:41, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
The template:WikiLogoOf does work as designed, but granted it doesn't cope with instances such as when a wiki creates a newer updated logo. The template was designed (long before I started on WikiIndex) as a consistent way of categorising wiki logo. It also has the benefit of moving up the page the link of the wiki article it is used on (yes, some people are too lazy to scroll down the page! And other folks may just look at the picture and not actually be interested in looking to see where the image is used.) We can work around the issue of when it isn't used anymore, by simply adding a few words after the template indicating so. Please recheck File:Asianmediawiki2.jpg and AsianWiki to see how I have implemented this.

bad template inactive

Futhermore, the template:WikiLogoOf is of massive assistance when its article refers to an 'inactive' wiki which has its infobox template changed to template:Inactive - as that template strips away its identifying logo for the File:Inactive.png!!

Oh, sure you don't get me around by this one! to remedy some of the violence of this notorious inactive-template with another fuzzy template is not what I call a solution. That bad template this destructor of information should be banned anyway. Who actually invented this bad thing? Manorainjan (talk) 23:01, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

lazy scrollers

You don't get me with that. If You think the Information about 'File usage' is way too down, than the use of a template is not the solution. Than the design of the Wiki needs to change in general. That would make sense, since in some cases there might be a long list of picture history which pushes the information quite deep down. File:Augustine training.jpg. So the 'File usage' should come before the history.Manorainjan (talk) 22:03, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Then you would need to re-write the MediaWiki software. Best head over to MediaWiki.org and raise your concerns with them. Night-Night. Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 22:37, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


There is a similar problem with another kind of page: [Special:ActiveUsers]

The first item in the line is the user name. I just tried a little around and it looks like a user name could be extremely long (please delete my request for account ;-). So the list is badly formatted 'Flattertext' in German.

'(Talk | contribs)' always has the same length.

Then comes the number of edits which varies, but not so much, say 1 to 5 chars.

At last comes a totally redundant text "action in the last 30 days]" which is not changed to 'actionS' even though this is the more common case. That text should not be part of the list at all, it should be in the header only.

After all, the numbers should be first row fixed width of 5 chars, then user names and there should be choice of sorting name or edits up and down and number of days as well. But my point here is, that the most varying item is first and as such smashes the layout. And this is not only here the case, it is MediaWikiWide nonsense. Manorainjan (talk) 22:44, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

better use

There is a place where this template would be useful, if You love it so much, that You don't want to delete it:

There the Name of the Wiki is already present and IF(!) a logo-file is named, then this template could be inserted in the file page to do its thing. Because in this process (Click left in Navi. on 'Add a Wiki', doing step 2, etc.) normally one would not add a category to the logo. That's how all those hundreds of uncategorised logo files come about!Manorainjan (talk) 20:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

That page simply calls on the special page Form:Wiki (which then uses Template:Wiki) to create a new or edit an existing article - but crucially, complying with Structured Data as required by our Semantic MediaWiki plug-in.
However, that said Form:Wiki can NOT 'upload' an image file, nor edit an existing image file – so your theory would not work. Files can only be uploaded (by registered users) via the Special:Upload, and I have no idea how to edit that special page. Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 21:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
I did not expect the form to upload a file. I thought of an automatism that could be triggered by the logo field filled with a local name. I assume that can be tested on. But by now that field is that dump that it not even tests on a valid input in case of a local file and therefore does not help the newbie. Like, when You fill in only the name of the logo file without brackets, than it could issue a hint, couldn't it?Manorainjan (talk) 21:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

WC

How many languages do you recognise? :-)
Hello, Manorainjan — Welcome to WikiIndex :-)
WikiIndex aims to build bridges between wiki communities. We hope that you will enjoy browsing and editing this wiki.

Our goal is to make an index of all wiki sites. We appreciate your help in our ongoing quest.

Your contributions and your ideas are greatly valued. Thank you!

Wiki Aventurica

Hallo, ich habe dir im Wiki Aventurica eine Nachricht hinterlassen. --Theaitetos (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Vielen Dank für die Verbesserungen des Artikels – besonders zu so später Stunde. :-D --Theaitetos (talk) 01:59, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

your ToDo lists

You can copy your ToDo list to a better sub-page, ie User:Manorainjan/ToDo. ;). Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 16:22, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Should we have alternative infoboxes besides Template:Wiki?

Discussion here. --MarvelZuvembie (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

THE template

Why didn't You use this? (late or not...) Template:Wiki boilerplate Manorainjan (talk) 10:03, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

I assume you are talking about the creation of Discordian Wiki page. If so, I didn't use that boilerplate because (A) I used WikiIndex:Add_a_Wiki and (B) “Haven't put all info in because going to sleep and don't have energy to switch to a Skin (computing) that isn't Wikia's horrible "wikia" skin.” --EarthFurst (talk) 18:22, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

I see. I tried it myself and was surprised about the result. This template/function needs quite some change!! Thanks for the answer! Manorainjan (talk) 18:29, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

This edit war is rather amusing to watch

(munches popcorn) Leucosticte (talk) 20:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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You clearly have a lot of time and energy to give, and it would be appreciated by all if you were to use your time here on WikiIndex in a constructive, harmonious and respectful manner; respecting its traditions, and if you wish, help mold its' future by gentle evolution - rather than your seemingly agressive and forceful attempts of 'revolution'. By all means, if you are unsure of something, please ask (giving full detail of your concerns, with supporting examples where necessary), and we will try to answer your questions. But you seem to 'demand' answers - on your terms, and you have irritated more than just myself. If others wish to delete your comments from their own personal talk pages, then let it be.

In light of the above comments, I hope that you can continue your efforts here, and become an established and valued member of WikiIndex, and I reaffirm my original welcome of 'wiki friendship'. If you are unsure of your motives, or unsure of your ability to integrate harmoniously within our community - then you might like to consider if WikiIndex for you. Warmest regards. :) Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 22:38, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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