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*To allow discussion without damaging the function of the wiki, structure is needed, and, as well, users and administrators who understand how to *organize* and *regulate* discussion, so that it does not become damaging. If that is not done, a wiki becomes highly inefficient and burns out users. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 16:39, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | *To allow discussion without damaging the function of the wiki, structure is needed, and, as well, users and administrators who understand how to *organize* and *regulate* discussion, so that it does not become damaging. If that is not done, a wiki becomes highly inefficient and burns out users. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 16:39, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
'I did the same with Leucosticte on Wikiversity, where he could actually build content, and if willing to participate in the creation of ethical standards, even content in the areas where he has been the most provocative. That was ignored. If it isn't easy for him, it's not "wiki."' That's actually not what happened. On Wikiversity, I wrote up some ethical standards at [[wikiversity:Wikiversity:Ethics for pages concerning illegal or physically dangerous activities]], and was viewed with suspicion as a possible troublemaker. So basically, whether you edit boldly or attempt to draft policy first, you get accused of disruption. It's happening here too. The bottom line is, both wikis want to ban the content from the road altogether, rather than establishing rules of the road for allowing the content to safely travel. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:11, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | 'I did the same with Leucosticte on Wikiversity, where he could actually build content, and if willing to participate in the creation of ethical standards, even content in the areas where he has been the most provocative. That was ignored. If it isn't easy for him, it's not "wiki."' That's actually not what happened. On Wikiversity, I wrote up some ethical standards at [[wikiversity:Wikiversity:Ethics for pages concerning illegal or physically dangerous activities]], and was viewed with suspicion as a possible troublemaker. So basically, whether you edit boldly or attempt to draft policy first, you get accused of disruption. It's happening here too. The bottom line is, both wikis want to ban the content from the road altogether, rather than establishing rules of the road for allowing the content to safely travel. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:11, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
::Leucosticte proposed an inappropriate policy, clueless, and disagreed with the user and sysop who discussed it with him. He did not take steps to engage a larger community. He was not warned for disruption from what he did. He was challenged to actually do something other than demand that others pave the road for him. His complaint above is that Someone might accuse him of Stuff. He's right. Heat, kitchen. He wants someone else to do the hard work so that he can write Whatever He Wants. I've risked wikipolitical capital to protect Leucosticte where there is the possibility of productive work (for Wikiversity, educational materials). His response has been to crawl off in a corner and whine loudly about How Unfair People Are. He's not actually interested in the topics he raises, they are excuses to get people yelling at him. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 02:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
'''Commentary''' For what it's worth, I agree completely that WikiIndex shouldn't just be empirical--we give a better impression of the WikiSphere by discussing things more colloquially (in addition to hard numbers). [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 18:14, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | '''Commentary''' For what it's worth, I agree completely that WikiIndex shouldn't just be empirical--we give a better impression of the WikiSphere by discussing things more colloquially (in addition to hard numbers). [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 18:14, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | ||