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== The lunatics have taken over the asylum. ==
==The lunatics have taken over the asylum==
 
''As pretend assistant to the sheriff's deputy, I do hereby tag this here section for <del>banishment</del> [duplication] to the <del>less popular</del> talk page of a certain <del>uuuh "Fandom Poover", have I got that right? Something like that</del> [rpeh (because rpeh undeleted this section after Lumenos deleted it)]. This is in keeping with [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines#Enforcement_against_editors|Section 1 - C of "WikiIndex Policies and Guidelines" under section "Enforcement against editors"]]. As always, your input on matters of policy would be much appreciated and any objections or modification to this here constructive information tag, would be as well. If you modify or endorse this informative tag, please place your user name after this message and strike out any names appearing there at the time of your edit. Thank you for reading this informative tag and considering ways we may [[SoftSecurity|work together to resolve sensitive issues such as these]].'' ([[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]) (Updated [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 08:07, 11 September 2009 (EDT))[Updated [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 04:39, 12 September 2009 (EDT)]  
''As pretend assistant to the sheriff's deputy, I do hereby tag this here section for <del>banishment</del> [duplication] to the <del>less popular</del> talk page of a certain <del>uuuh "Fandom Poover", have I got that right? Something like that</del> [rpeh (because rpeh undeleted this section after Lumenos deleted it)]. This is in keeping with [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Enforcement_against_editors|Section 1 - C of "WikiIndex Policies and Guidelines" under section "Enforcement against editors"]]. As always, your input on matters of policy would be much appreciated and any objections or modification to this here constructive information tag, would be as well. If you modify or endorse this informative tag, please place your user name after this message and strike out any names appearing there at the time of your edit. Thank you for reading this informative tag and considering ways we may [[SoftSecurity|work together to resolve sensitive issues such as these]].'' ([[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]]) (Updated [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 08:07, 11 September 2009 (EDT))[Updated [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 04:39, 12 September 2009 (EDT)]  
:The policies you have made up are not site policy; they are written solely by you, and have no consensus. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:19, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
:The policies you have made up are not site policy; they are written solely by you, and have no consensus. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:19, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
::What policy have I made up? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:57, 11 September 2009 (EDT)
::What policy have I made up? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:57, 11 September 2009 (EDT)
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That is all I have to say. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 10:12, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
That is all I have to say. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 10:12, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
:If you could [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines|write the rules]], what would they say? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 12:48, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
:If you could [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines|write the rules]], what would they say? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 12:48, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
::Sysops should have to pass basic tests of mental age, and protection should only be used in the most dire of vandal attacks. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:15, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
::[[Sysop]]s should have to pass basic tests of mental age, and protection should only be used in the most dire of vandal attacks. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:15, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
:::<rolls eyes> Another genius suggestion. I sure am glad rpeh undeleted your comment here so we can explore this further. Could you describe this test in more detail? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:25, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
:::<rolls eyes> Another genius suggestion. I sure am glad rpeh undeleted your comment here so we can explore this further. Could you describe this test in more detail? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:25, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
::::There will be standard tests available; Trent might know. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:32, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
::::There will be standard tests available; Trent might know. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:32, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
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::::::::Epic win. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 14:15, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Epic win. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 14:15, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Doh! This is nothing but HOBGOBLINTRIES! (That having been said.) Honor to speak with you, Sir. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:11, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Doh! This is nothing but HOBGOBLINTRIES! (That having been said.) Honor to speak with you, Sir. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:11, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
::::::::...if that's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tmtoulouse your REAL name]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 15:56, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
::::::::...if that's [https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tmtoulouse your REAL name]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 15:56, 8 September 2009 (EDT)
 
== "Archive" most of this page to subpage ==


=="Archive" most of this page to subpage==
Mark if you don't object I plan to move everything on this page, posted '''before "143 Conservaèdia"''', to a subpage. It supposedly helps with compatibility and I think it makes it easier to read. I don't know how to make neat archive icons, I would just put a link at the top of the page. I'll wait four days for you to object. (This is to save you time in responding.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 19:43, 8 September 2009 (EDT) [Updated comment in bold.]
Mark if you don't object I plan to move everything on this page, posted '''before "143 Conservaèdia"''', to a subpage. It supposedly helps with compatibility and I think it makes it easier to read. I don't know how to make neat archive icons, I would just put a link at the top of the page. I'll wait four days for you to object. (This is to save you time in responding.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 19:43, 8 September 2009 (EDT) [Updated comment in bold.]


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I found the code to make neat archives and went ahead and archived the page. I hope I did good. I can't imagine why you wouldn't want it archived but perhaps I am being presumptuous. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:41, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
I found the code to make neat archives and went ahead and archived the page. I hope I did good. I can't imagine why you wouldn't want it archived but perhaps I am being presumptuous. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:41, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
:Archive 1 contains two categories that were added with comments. They have nothing else in them and I thought they looked maybe unintentional so I archived them with everything else. They are in this section: [[User_talk:MarkDilley/Archive1#Category_Sorting]] -- [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:41, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
:Archive 1 contains two categories that were added with comments. They have nothing else in them and I thought they looked maybe unintentional so I archived them with everything else. They are in this section: [[User talk:MarkDilley/Archive1#Category Sorting]] -- [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:41, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
 
== RationalWikiWiki ==


==[[RationalWikiWiki]]==
Hi Mark.  do you think you could comment on this talk page: [[Talk:RationalWikiWiki]].  thanks.--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 03:49, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
Hi Mark.  do you think you could comment on this talk page: [[Talk:RationalWikiWiki]].  thanks.--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 03:49, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
 
:Bob - will get to it tomorrow night or this weekend. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Bob - will get to it tomorrow night or this weekend. Best, [[MarkDilley]]


Could you also address this "article": "Huw Powell"? I am not a wiki, I am a free man! [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 19:58, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
Could you also address this "article": "Huw Powell"? I am not a wiki, I am a free man! [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 19:58, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
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==Articles for users with with real names==
==Articles for users with with real names==
This is inspired by comments by Huw Powell in the RationalWikiWiki section above:
This is inspired by comments by Huw Powell in the RationalWikiWiki section above:


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:What David says makes sense to me. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 04:38, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
:What David says makes sense to me. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 04:38, 4 October 2009 (EDT)


== 7 ==
==7==
 
Yes, you are right[https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Universal_Edit_Button&diff=next&oldid=69656] :-) - it was a typo. Greetings, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:16, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
Yes, you are right[http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Universal_Edit_Button&diff=next&oldid=69656] :-) - it was a typo. Greetings, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:16, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
 
== Philsworld ==


==Philsworld==
The creator of the article [[Philsworld]] recently blanked it as the wiki is no longer active. I have changed it back, but substituted the {{template|Inactive}} template for the {{template|Wiki}} template. I presume that this is generally how we would prefer to indicate wikis which have reached the end of their lifespan. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:10, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
The creator of the article [[Philsworld]] recently blanked it as the wiki is no longer active. I have changed it back, but substituted the {{template|Inactive}} template for the {{template|Wiki}} template. I presume that this is generally how we would prefer to indicate wikis which have reached the end of their lifespan. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:10, 22 September 2009 (EDT)


== Please help develop explicit rules ==
==Please help develop explicit rules==
 
Following the recent incidents surrounding the [[RationalWiki]] article, I have come to the conclusion that we need a set of really explicit policies and guidelines. I don't like this, but it's necessary. I have started work on [[Wikiindex:Policies and Guidelines]] and I would appreciate your input.
Following the recent incidents surrounding the RationalWiki article, I have come to the conclusion that we need a set of really explicit policies and guidelines. I don't like this, but it's necessary. I have started work on [[Wikiindex:Policies_and_Guidelines]] and I would appreciate your input.


What I ''don't'' (yet) have is method. Not sure what should go on the talk page and what shouldn't. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 04:08, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
What I ''don't'' (yet) have is method. Not sure what should go on the talk page and what shouldn't. [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 04:08, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
:Proposed "policy" should go in sections on the page.  Discussion, with the same section names, should be on the talk page.  What gets accepted/agreed on at the talk page, becomes the eventual main page.  I invite you to [[RationalWiki]] where we wrote, and then rewrote, our site policies in such a fashion.  Come to my talk page (user:human) if you want me to show you around.  I'm not telling you what to do, just offering an example that worked for us. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 04:42, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
:Proposed "policy" should go in sections on the page.  Discussion, with the same section names, should be on the talk page.  What gets accepted/agreed on at the talk page, becomes the eventual main page.  I invite you to [[RationalWiki]] where we wrote, and then rewrote, our site policies in such a fashion.  Come to my talk page (user:human) if you want me to show you around.  I'm not telling you what to do, just offering an example that worked for us. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 04:42, 4 October 2009 (EDT)


== Spam blacklist fail ==
==Spam blacklist fail==
 
Hi Mark. For some reason, [[My spam blacklist]] doesn't seem to be working. The last time I tested it several days ago, it worked fine. Today it doesn't seem to work. I'm trying to use it to prevent the fraudulent essay spammers from adding links to their sites. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:40, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
Hi Mark. For some reason, [[My spam blacklist]] doesn't seem to be working. The last time I tested it several days ago, it worked fine. Today it doesn't seem to work. I'm trying to use it to prevent the fraudulent essay spammers from adding links to their sites. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:40, 8 October 2009 (EDT)


:Never mind. I missed that the offending words had to be a part of a link, not just any regular expression. It's working fine. I just was too lazy in my typing. :-P --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 21:18, 16 October 2009 (EDT)
:Never mind. I missed that the offending words had to be a part of a link, not just any regular expression. It's working fine. I just was too lazy in my typing. :-P --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 21:18, 16 October 2009 (EDT)


== Welcome thanks! ==
==Welcome thanks!==
 
Thank you Mark :)  [[User:Sj|Sj]] 19:34, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
Thank you Mark :)  [[User:Sj|Sj]] 19:34, 14 October 2009 (EDT)


== New status? ==
==New status?==
 
Question about New status at [[Category talk:New]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 19:48, 24 October 2009 (EDT)
Question about New status at [[Category talk:New]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 19:48, 24 October 2009 (EDT)


== Doppelgänger-Account ==
==Doppelgänger-Account==
 
Someone created a new account <code>[[User:MarkDiIley]]</code> which could mixed-up with your user account. I blocked him. :-) --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 11:11, 8 November 2009 (EST)
Someone created a new account <code>[[User:MarkDiIley]]</code> which could mixed-up with your user account.
I blocked him. :-) --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 11:11, 8 November 2009 (EST)
: The next one: <code>[[User:MarkDiIIey]]</code> - one combination left ;-) Greetings, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:33, 10 November 2009 (EST)
: The next one: <code>[[User:MarkDiIIey]]</code> - one combination left ;-) Greetings, [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:33, 10 November 2009 (EST)
:: The last one of ''this'' kind: <code>[[User:MarkDilIey]]</code>. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 07:14, 14 November 2009 (EST)
:: The last one of ''this'' kind: <code>[[User:MarkDilIey]]</code>. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 07:14, 14 November 2009 (EST)
::: Oh, look! I have one, too! :P <code>[[User:MarveIZuvembie]]</code>. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 13:46, 7 December 2009 (EST)
::: Oh, look! I have one, too! :P <code>[[User:MarveIZuvembie]]</code>. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 13:46, 7 December 2009 (EST)


== Broken Interwikis? ==
==Broken [[Interwiki]]s?==
 
Hi Mark, I've been gone a while, but in visiting today I noticed that the foreign language interwiki links in the "includeonly" section of {{template|Wikipedia}} are appearing as red links within the article (see [[English Wikipedia]], for example) instead of as interwiki links in the lefthand column. Perhaps a change to MediaWiki's configuration has caused this? Just thought you should know. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:25, 1 March 2010 (EST)
Hi Mark,
 
I've been gone a while, but in visiting today I noticed that the foreign language interwiki links in the "includeonly" section of {{template|Wikipedia}} are appearing as red links within the article (see [[English Wikipedia]], for example) instead of as interwiki links in the lefthand column. Perhaps a change to MediaWiki's configuration has caused this? Just thought you should know.
 
--[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:25, 1 March 2010 (EST)
 
== Sysop ==


==[[Sysop]]==
Hi! I request sysop status here. Thank you! [[User:Erwin|Erwin]] 08:55, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
Hi! I request sysop status here. Thank you! [[User:Erwin|Erwin]] 08:55, 29 March 2010 (EDT)


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:Hi Erwin. For completing your sysop's button collection, take a tour around [[:Category:All|our wiki collection]]. And I'm sure, [[:Category:NeedsLove|some of them will highly appreciate hour help]]. I guess for this wiki the answer is just '''no'''. (Maybe my English is too bad: I cannot discover any ''confirmation'' in John's answer.) Best regards --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 16:20, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:Hi Erwin. For completing your sysop's button collection, take a tour around [[:Category:All|our wiki collection]]. And I'm sure, [[:Category:NeedsLove|some of them will highly appreciate hour help]]. I guess for this wiki the answer is just '''no'''. (Maybe my English is too bad: I cannot discover any ''confirmation'' in John's answer.) Best regards --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 16:20, 1 April 2010 (EDT)


== WoWWiki and PathfinderWiki both leave Wikia! ==
==[[WoWWiki]] and [[PathfinderWiki]] both [[:Category:Ex-Wikia|leave Wikia!]]==
 
I've started [[Category talk:Wikia#WoWWiki and PathfinderWiki both leave Wikia.21|a topic on the Wikia talk page]], but hope you could give some input into how to proceed. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 03:40, 5 November 2010 (PDT)
I've started [[Category_talk:Wikia#WoWWiki_and_PathfinderWiki_both_leave_Wikia.21|a topic on the Wikia talk page]], but hope you could give some input into how to proceed. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 03:40, 5 November 2010 (PDT)
 
== I am so sorry ==


==I am so sorry==
I heard that you got impersonated on youtube. I am so sorry. WIll you block him? ''The preceding unsigned comment posted by [[User:Doon Harrow|Doon Harrow]] 00:26, 8 November 2010 - please remember to sign your comments with four tilde. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''
I heard that you got impersonated on youtube. I am so sorry. WIll you block him? ''The preceding unsigned comment posted by [[User:Doon Harrow|Doon Harrow]] 00:26, 8 November 2010 - please remember to sign your comments with four tilde. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''


== wikiindex page about Recent Changes Camp? ==
==wikiindex page about Recent Changes Camp?==
 
Should there be a WikiIndex page about [[Recent Changes Camp]]? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:43, 14 November 2010 (PST)
Should there be a WikiIndex page about [[Recent Changes Camp]]? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:43, 14 November 2010 (PST)
: Oops. There is one (at "[[RecentChangesCamp]]"). Move it to "Recent Changes Camp"? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:49, 14 November 2010 (PST)
: Oops. There is one (at "[[RecentChangesCamp]]"). Move it to "Recent Changes Camp"? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:49, 14 November 2010 (PST)
:: will [[redirect]] the non-[[CamelCased]] one. Thanks! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:: will [[redirect]] the non-[[CamelCase]]d one. Thanks! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
 
== Spam bots ==
 
Hi Mark,
 
Has there been discussion in wiki circles about the best way to stop spambots like [[Special:Contributions/Literacyguru|Literacyguru]] before they change hundreds of articles? I'm sure there's some sort of rollback script, but I don't have the familiarity with bots that I do with other aspects of MediaWiki, so I'm rolling back the vandalism one article at a time. Still, if "editors" that edit multiple articles in an inhumanly short time frame could be flagged, that might be helpful.


--[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 12:12, 16 December 2010 (PST)
==Spam bots==
Hi Mark, Has there been discussion in wiki circles about the best way to stop spambots like [[Special:Contributions/Literacyguru|Literacyguru]] before they change hundreds of articles? I'm sure there's some sort of rollback script, but I don't have the familiarity with bots that I do with other aspects of MediaWiki, so I'm rolling back the vandalism one article at a time. Still, if "editors" that edit multiple articles in an inhumanly short time frame could be flagged, that might be helpful. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 12:12, 16 December 2010 (PST)


Upon further research, the recent spam probably wasn't done by a bot. The edits weren't that quick. Also, it adapted to making a mistake—putting the spam inside of a comment field. Still, some kind of multiple rollback tool would be nice. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 13:50, 16 December 2010 (PST)
Upon further research, the recent [[spam]] probably wasn't done by a bot. The edits weren't that quick. Also, it adapted to making a mistake—putting the spam inside of a comment field. Still, some kind of multiple rollback tool would be nice. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 13:50, 16 December 2010 (PST)


: ''I will ask person upgrading the site if there is a mass rollback on a unleashed spammer. Thanks for catching it, please don't hesitate to grab me on [[IRC]] or email to help.  My best, [[MarkDilley]]''
: ''I will ask person upgrading the site if there is a mass rollback on a unleashed [[spammer]]. Thanks for catching it, please don't hesitate to grab me on [[IRC]] or email to help.  My best, [[MarkDilley]]''


==ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki==
==ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki==
My only wish is for the article that I created about the ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki to be deleted.[[User:Joel amos|Joel amos]] 17:53, 3 February 2011 (PST)
My only wish is for the article that I created about the ACC Bible Quizzing Wiki to be deleted. [[User:Joel amos|Joel amos]] 17:53, 3 February 2011 (PST)
 
== Wikiversity ==


==[[:Category:Wikiversity|Wikiversity]]==
You look like one of the "people in charge". :)  
You look like one of the "people in charge". :)  


As a bureaucrat on a Wikia wiki who does most of the editing, I do not envy you.  
As a [[bureaucrat]] on a [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] wiki who does most of the editing, I do not envy you.  


WikiIndex is much needed, but it would be nice if it were on a fast wiki farm such as Wikia or Wikkii. But then I am not sure if they would allow all this info about their competition. But the wiki index looks like it is struggling. It is very slow, and is using an old version of MediaWiki software. Putting this on an ad-supported wiki farm would ensure its longterm survival, and more up-to-date software and hardware.  
WikiIndex is much needed, but it would be nice if it were on a fast wiki farm such as Wikia or [[:Category:Wikkii|Wikkii]]. But then I am not sure if they would allow all this info about their competition. But the wiki index looks like it is struggling. It is very slow, and is using an old version of MediaWiki software. Putting this on an ad-supported wiki farm would ensure its longterm survival, and more up-to-date software and hardware.  


Maybe this could be transferred to Wikiversity? You would think that Wikimedia would support wikis in general. I left a request for comment at the Wikiversity forum:  
Maybe this could be transferred to [[:Category:Wikiversity|Wikiversity]]? You would think that [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia]] would support wikis in general. I left a request for comment at the Wikiversity forum:  
*http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Colloquium#Wiki_Index._Request_for_comments --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] 19:29, 26 April 2011 (PDT)
*https://en.Wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Colloquium#Wiki_Index._Request_for_comments --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] 19:29, 26 April 2011 (PDT)
 
== [[Universal Edit Button]] ==


==[[Universal Edit Button]]==
Hi Mark, there seems to be a problem. Thus it is offline. I would be very sad to learn that it is gone entirely. :( Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh]]]] 02:09, 8 June 2011 (PDT)
Hi Mark, there seems to be a problem. Thus it is offline. I would be very sad to learn that it is gone entirely. :( Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh]]]] 02:09, 8 June 2011 (PDT)


: I am relieved to hear that it was just a struggle. I just had a look at it: It is happily back there it belongs and running. :) Cool. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh]]]] 14:24, 9 June 2011 (PDT)
: I am relieved to hear that it was just a struggle. I just had a look at it: It is happily back there it belongs and running. :) Cool. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh]]]] 14:24, 9 June 2011 (PDT)


== RegioWikis in Europe ==
==[[RegioWiki]]s in Europe==
 
Hi. I just discovered [https://maps.Google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=h&msa=0&msid=115570622864617231547.00044e461c185a89b6d71&ll=49.095452,14.677734&spn=39.93254,79.013672&z=4 this map]. I'm trying to archive all them at [[WikiTeam]], but an article at WikiIndex for them would be nice too. Add it to the TODO list, please. Regards. [[User:Emijrp|emijrp]] 01:44, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
Hi. I just discovered [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=h&msa=0&msid=115570622864617231547.00044e461c185a89b6d71&ll=49.095452,14.677734&spn=39.93254,79.013672&z=4 this map]. I'm trying to archive all them at WikiTeam, but an article at WikiIndex for them would be nice too. Add it to the TODO list, please. Regards. [[User:Emijrp|emijrp]] 01:44, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
 
== New parameter into [[Template:Wiki]] for backups ==


==New parameter into [[Template:Wiki]] for backups==
Hi Mark. Can we add a new parameter into [[Template:Wiki]] to link to backups? wiki_backup for url and wiki_backup_date for date. If you are OK I can do it. Regards. --[[User:Emijrp|emijrp]] 03:11, 29 June 2011 (PDT)
Hi Mark. Can we add a new parameter into [[Template:Wiki]] to link to backups? wiki_backup for url and wiki_backup_date for date. If you are OK I can do it. Regards. --[[User:Emijrp|emijrp]] 03:11, 29 June 2011 (PDT)


== You've got mail ==
==You've got mail==
 
[[User talk:Varnent]]
[[User_talk:Varnent]]
: Now you have more.  :)
: Now you have more.  :)


== SMW ==
==[[SMW]]==
 
Hi Mark, your welcome. I mostly made minor changes since Yaron already did most of the work setting it up. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] 04:51, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
Hi Mark, your welcome. I mostly made minor changes since Yaron already did most of the work setting it up. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] 04:51, 30 July 2011 (PDT)


== Enable captcha ==
==Enable captcha==
The solution to this [[spam]] attack is to enable captcha for all [[IP editor|anonymous edits]], not just if they're posting external links. Do it. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 07 30 2011


The solution to this spam attack is to enable captcha for all anonymous edits, not just if they're posting external links. Do it. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 07 30 2011
:Looking it up on [[MediaWiki.org]], it appears as though one of the five ConfirmEdit triggers would require use of a CAPTCHA on ''any'' edit. If I read it correctly, it appears as though the CAPTCHA is only required once, so, although annoying, this might solve the [[vandal]]bot problem. [https://www.MediaWiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit#Configuration]
 
:Looking it up on MediaWiki, it appears as though one of the five ConfirmEdit triggers would require use of a CAPTCHA on ''any'' edit. If I read it correctly, it appears as though the CAPTCHA is only required once, so, although annoying, this might solve the vandalbot problem. [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit#Configuration]


:I do suspect it is a bot as I am seeing similar edits on [http://cp.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity other wikis] from the same IPs. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 18:39, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
:I do suspect it is a bot as I am seeing similar edits on [http://cp.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity other wikis] from the same IPs. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 18:39, 6 September 2011 (PDT)


== Wikicareer.de = spam? ==
==Wikicareer.de = spam?==
 
Question at [[Talk:Wikicareer.de]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 15:48, 10 December 2011 (PST)
Question at [[Talk:Wikicareer.de]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 15:48, 10 December 2011 (PST)


== Thanks ==
==Thanks==
 
Thanks for the new bot and sysop privileges. [[User:Emijrp|emijrp]] 03:19, 16 December 2011 (PST)
Thanks for the new bot and sysop privileges. [[User:Emijrp|emijrp]] 03:19, 16 December 2011 (PST)


== delete nominations ==
==delete nominations==
 
Hi Mark, noticed you seem to have some concerns over some of my delete nominations - some of which frankly confuse me. [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Amit&oldid=91756 This edit] is one - this 'article' is clearly someone who is trying to use WikiIndex to actually HOST their wiki (rather than create an 'entry' here on WikiIndex with a link to an off-site wiki).  TeraS checked out all my deletion 'nominations' relating to this particular article and user, and agreed with me - in that it was just [[spam]].  (And I'm sure you'll agree that spam doesn't just have to be trying to sell medications for erectile disfunction!!) ;p  And just because some 'spam' which was created here in the early days of WI, and didn't get picked up on, surely needs to be treated with the same emphasis as spam created say yesterday!  IMVHO, of course. :)
Hi Mark, noticed you seem to have some concerns over some of my delete nominations - some of which frankly confuse me. [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Amit&oldid=91756 This edit] is one - this 'article' is clearly someone who is trying to use WikiIndex to actually HOST their wiki (rather than create an 'entry' here on WikiIndex with a link to an off-site wiki).  TeraS checked out all my deletion 'nominations' relating to this particular article and user, and agreed with me - in that it was just spam.  (And I'm sure you'll agree that spam doesn't just have to be trying to sell medications for erectile disfunction!!) ;p  And just because some 'spam' which was created here in the early days of WI, and didn't get picked up on, surely needs to be treated with the same emphasis as spam created say yesterday!  IMVHO, of course. :)


And this comment [[User talk:TeraS#deletions|here]] - kinda would have been nice to include me in the discussion too, don't you think? :/  Anyway, my explanation for my recent 'deletionisms' - I'm sure you need no reminding that a (good) wiki works best when articles (along with all the other 'stuff') on a wiki site have lots of [[WikiIndex:Wiki Links|wikilinks]].  Having been on here a little while now, I became aware that many articles/talk page discussions/project pages/help pages, etc, are seriously devoid of wikilinks (and yes, I'm aware that in its infancy, these 'links' may not have actually been available).  So, in trying to improve the 'wikilinks' issue, my first port of call (after attending directly to obvious articles) was to look in [[Special:SpecialPages]] at the [[Special:UncategorizedTemplates|Uncategorized templates]] - and either (a) link them to an appropriate [[:Category:Templates|template]] category (or one of its sub-cats), or (b) nominate them for deletion.  Of those that I nominate for deletion, 99% of the time, I clicked on the [[Special:WhatLinksHere]], and any that did have links, I let be.  But those which had no links in the WhatLinksHere, after having checked their edit history, those that ''seemed'' to be 'test' edits had the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> tag, along with some hidden text to explain my rationale, which was then copied to the edit summary (and many of these were created by well-known spammer, wiki-irritant and banned  member Jonah Musto.)  OK, I admit to not checking every single template I nominated, simply because some appeared to follow a certain pattern - but then, I am only 'nominating' them for deletion - the Admin ''should'' also verify them too!
And this comment [[User talk:TeraS#deletions|here]] - kinda would have been nice to include me in the discussion too, don't you think? :/  Anyway, my explanation for my recent 'deletionisms' - I'm sure you need no reminding that a (good) wiki works best when articles (along with all the other 'stuff') on a wiki site have lots of [[WikiIndex:Wiki Links|wikilinks]].  Having been on here a little while now, I became aware that many articles/talk page discussions/project pages/help pages, etc, are seriously devoid of wikilinks (and yes, I'm aware that in its infancy, these 'links' may not have actually been available).  So, in trying to improve the 'wikilinks' issue, my first port of call (after attending directly to obvious articles) was to look in [[Special:SpecialPages]] at the [[Special:UncategorizedTemplates|Uncategorized templates]] - and either (a) link them to an appropriate [[:Category:Templates|template]] category (or one of its sub-cats), or (b) nominate them for deletion.  Of those that I nominate for deletion, 99% of the time, I clicked on the [[Special:WhatLinksHere]], and any that did have links, I let be.  But those which had no links in the WhatLinksHere, after having checked their edit history, those that ''seemed'' to be 'test' edits had the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> tag, along with some hidden text to explain my rationale, which was then copied to the edit summary (and many of these were created by well-known spammer, wiki-irritant and banned  member Jonah Musto.)  OK, I admit to not checking every single template I nominated, simply because some appeared to follow a certain pattern - but then, I am only 'nominating' them for deletion - the Admin ''should'' also verify them too!
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At the end of the day - I'm only here to try and help WikiIndex become a 'better' place - one of those methods is creating wikilinks; and the other is spam-hunting and trimming out niff-naff unused 'stuff' (templates, cats, etc).  In doing so, these deletion nominations have all been in 'good faith' - so if I have nominated an item incorrectly, I apologise.  But it would be nice to let me know if you think I'm doing anything fundamentally 'wrong'!  I respect of my efforts of improving wikilinking - I suppose a good question to pose might be - "of those [[Special:Statistics|5000+]] wikis listed here, how many of those actual wiki owners are aware that their site is listed here on WikiIndex?"  (I personally know that two of my UK nominations don't!).  Anyway, best regards --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 01:57, 6 January 2012 (PST)
At the end of the day - I'm only here to try and help WikiIndex become a 'better' place - one of those methods is creating wikilinks; and the other is spam-hunting and trimming out niff-naff unused 'stuff' (templates, cats, etc).  In doing so, these deletion nominations have all been in 'good faith' - so if I have nominated an item incorrectly, I apologise.  But it would be nice to let me know if you think I'm doing anything fundamentally 'wrong'!  I respect of my efforts of improving wikilinking - I suppose a good question to pose might be - "of those [[Special:Statistics|5000+]] wikis listed here, how many of those actual wiki owners are aware that their site is listed here on WikiIndex?"  (I personally know that two of my UK nominations don't!).  Anyway, best regards --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 01:57, 6 January 2012 (PST)


== Message from Escyos ==
==Message from Escyos==
<small><tt>EDIT: This was a new topic. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:02, 10 January 2012 (PST) </tt></small> <br/>
<small><tt>EDIT: This was a new topic. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 05:02, 10 January 2012 (PST) </tt></small> <br/>
thank you for the welcome....although I suspect it was to clear up redlinks in recent changes.... [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 20:10, 8 January 2012 (PST)
thank you for the welcome....although I suspect it was to clear up redlinks in recent changes.... [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] 20:10, 8 January 2012 (PST)


== SopaStrike ==
==SopaStrike==
 
About SopaStrike. Posted my thoughts to Community Portal/News AND Talk:Community Portal/News (since anon IP was the one that linked to Talk:Community Portal/News. Which page is the correct one to post SopaStrike thoughts to? Perhaps Community Portal/News should have headers instead of non-TOC subsections (where there is semicolon at start of line) so people can click on edit link of the section they want to edit? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 10:07, 16 January 2012 (PST)
About SopaStrike. Posted my thoughts to Community Portal/News AND Talk:Community Portal/News (since anon IP was the one that linked to Talk:Community Portal/News. Which page is the correct one to post SopaStrike thoughts to? Perhaps Community Portal/News should have headers instead of non-TOC subsections (where there is semicolon at start of line) so people can click on edit link of the section they want to edit? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 10:07, 16 January 2012 (PST)


== wikiFactor 20 ==
==wikiFactor 20==
 
"is it correct that the [[wikiFactor]] would go to 20 when the twentieth most popular page reaches 20,000?"
"is it correct that the wikiFactor would go to 20 when the twentieth most popular page reaches 20,000?"
:You are indeed correct! All the best, --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User_talk:Spud_Gun |talk]]) 09:36, 1 February 2012 (PST)
:You are indeed correct! All the best, --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User_talk:Spud_Gun |talk]]) 09:36, 1 February 2012 (PST)


== Do we have the RenameUser extension? ==
==Do we have the [[mw:Extension:Renameuser|RenameUser extension]]?==
 
I forgot to ask about this earlier. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 24 2012
I forgot to ask about this earlier. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 24 2012


== WikiHorde page flagged for deletion ==
==WikiHorde page flagged for deletion==
 
Thanks for starting WikiIndex page about [[WikiHorde]]. Delete tag was added to that article. I never visited wikihorde.org (and archive.org Wayback Machine doesn't seem to have any archive of wikihorde) ... so I have no first-hand experience with the site in terms of page whether WikiIndex should keep the page (I assume it should be kept). --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 10:17, 12 June 2012 (PDT)
Thanks for starting WikiIndex page about [[WikiHorde]]. Delete tag was added to that article. I never visited wikihorde.org (and archive.org Wayback Machine doesn't seem to have any archive of wikihorde) ... so I have no first-hand experience with the site in terms of page whether WikiIndex should keep the page (I assume it should be kept). --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 10:17, 12 June 2012 (PDT)


It was not a wiki, rather it was a [[WikiIdea]].  I am just going to redirect it to the wiki that inspired the idea for now. Sound like a good idea?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
It was not a wiki, rather it was a [[WikiIdea]].  I am just going to redirect it to the wiki that inspired the idea for now. Sound like a good idea?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Fine line between [[:Category:Dormant|Dormant]] and [[:Category:Active|Active]] ==
==Fine line between [[:Category:Dormant|Dormant]] and [[:Category:Active|Active]]==
 
Where do you think is the fine line between dormant and just a slow but active wiki? How do you judge [http://3ddinoadventure.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?days=3000 this site] or [http://2814universe.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?days=3000 this site]? I want to know your thoughts on this. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint<sup>Admin]]</sup>'''  17 June 2012
Where do you think is the fine line between dormant and just a slow but active wiki? How do you judge [http://3ddinoadventure.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?days=3000 this site] or [http://2814universe.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?days=3000 this site]? I want to know your thoughts on this. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint<sup>Admin]]</sup>'''  17 June 2012
: You are correct, there is a fine line.  [[WikiIndex]] is more about how one things things should be listed than hard fast rules.  I think the case could be made that the one edited just a few times a year could be dormant - I could also see the case that it would be active.  What do you think?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: You are correct, there is a fine line.  [[WikiIndex]] is more about how one things things should be listed than hard fast rules.  I think the case could be made that the one edited just a few times a year could be dormant - I could also see the case that it would be active.  What do you think?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Universal Edit Button on mainpage ==
==Universal Edit Button on mainpage==
 
Ping from ''[[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Universal Edit Button on mainpage|Universal Edit Button on mainpage]]'' talk. --[[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]] 12:43, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
Ping from ''[[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Universal Edit Button on mainpage|Universal Edit Button on mainpage]]'' talk. --[[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]] 12:43, 20 June 2012 (PDT)


== Wiki ideas? ==
==Wiki ideas?==
 
Just saw that new category and don't think it should have a place here. That  may be ideas, but they are also guidelines. Guidelines should go in the project namespace, and WikiIndex is a wiki directory, not an encyclopedia about wikis, or am I wrong? --[[User:Bachsau|Bachsau]] 00:08, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
Just saw that new category and don't think it should have a place here. That  may be ideas, but they are also guidelines. Guidelines should go in the project namespace, and WikiIndex is a wiki directory, not an encyclopedia about wikis, or am I wrong? --[[User:Bachsau|Bachsau]] 00:08, 29 June 2012 (PDT)


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:: Who's the admin here? The real admin, who operates the sever or webspace. --[[User:Bachsau|Bachsau]] 23:16, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:: Who's the admin here? The real admin, who operates the sever or webspace. --[[User:Bachsau|Bachsau]] 23:16, 29 June 2012 (PDT)


== Thanks! :D ==
==Thanks! :D==
 
Thank you for the welcome! The [[Pirates of the Caribbean Online Wiki]] is the only informational wiki on the topic. There is also the [[Pirates of the Caribbean Online Players]], a fan wiki where players can create articles about their pirate(player), guild, etc... Then you have the [http://pirates.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Pirates of the Caribbean Wiki], the informational wiki about the whole franchise. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask, I'll be glad to help out in any way that I can. ~[[User:Jzfredskins|Jzfredskins]][[User talk:Jzfredskins|<sup>Talk</sup>]]
Thank you for the welcome! The [[Pirates of the Caribbean Online Wiki]] is the only informational wiki on the topic. There is also the [[Pirates of the Caribbean Online Players]], a fan wiki where players can create articles about their pirate(player), guild, etc... Then you have the [http://pirates.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Pirates of the Caribbean Wiki], the informational wiki about the whole franchise. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask, I'll be glad to help out in any way that I can. ~[[User:Jzfredskins|Jzfredskins]][[User talk:Jzfredskins|<sup>Talk</sup>]]


I'm sorry for the double post, but I have a question. On the [[Pirates of the Caribbean Online Wiki]] page, for the "''Main Topic''", is "''Information''" the appropriate category? Thanks again. ~[[User:Jzfredskins|Jzfredskins]][[User talk:Jzfredskins|<sup>Talk</sup>]]
I'm sorry for the double post, but I have a question. On the [[Pirates of the Caribbean Online Wiki]] page, for the "''Main Topic''", is "''Information''" the appropriate category? Thanks again. ~[[User:Jzfredskins|Jzfredskins]][[User talk:Jzfredskins|<sup>Talk</sup>]]


== My I invite you... ==
==My I invite you...==
 
...to [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#It.27s happening again|this discussion]]? It's about spammers once more... <br/> For instance, the suggestion from Jack Phoenix seemed interesting to me, but I think you are the only one with contacts to the system administrators... <br/> Best --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 07:13, 30 September 2012 (PDT)
...to [http://wikiindex.org/Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#It.27s_happening_again this discussion]? It's about spammers once more... <br/> For instance, the suggestion from Jack Phoenix seemed interesting to me, but I think you are the only one with contacts to the system administrators... <br/> Best --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 07:13, 30 September 2012 (PDT)
 
== Moving pages ==


==Moving pages==
Hi Mark - I had to make a few deletions and recreations following the recent changes to [[WikiIndex:InterWiki]] and its talk page.  This was because by simply copying content from one page name to another slightly different by using the 'cut/copy/paste' will remove the edit history from the original pagename - and a full edit history is part of the terms of attribution for our CC-BY-SA license.  On MediaWiki, if you need to 'move' an existing page to another page which already exists as a redirect (back to the one you want to change) - you really need to delete said target redirect page first - this will then allow the correct use of the 'move' function, and more importantly, preserve all edit history.  Hope you don't mind me correcting this.
Hi Mark - I had to make a few deletions and recreations following the recent changes to [[WikiIndex:InterWiki]] and its talk page.  This was because by simply copying content from one page name to another slightly different by using the 'cut/copy/paste' will remove the edit history from the original pagename - and a full edit history is part of the terms of attribution for our CC-BY-SA license.  On MediaWiki, if you need to 'move' an existing page to another page which already exists as a redirect (back to the one you want to change) - you really need to delete said target redirect page first - this will then allow the correct use of the 'move' function, and more importantly, preserve all edit history.  Hope you don't mind me correcting this.


Oh, and are you able to fix the redirect for the InterWiki link in the [[Special:ListGroupRights]] so that it redirects to [[WikiIndex:InterWiki]].  I don't think sysops can do that.  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:07, 16 October 2012 (PDT)
Oh, and are you able to fix the redirect for the InterWiki link in the [[Special:ListGroupRights]] so that it redirects to [[WikiIndex:InterWiki]].  I don't think sysops can do that.  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:07, 16 October 2012 (PDT)


== Downtime ==
==Downtime==
 
Hi Mark, I don't know if you are/were aware of a period of time when the site was down.  On 1st November, from approx 12:30 (UTC), an error message was displayed:
Hi Mark, I don't know if you are/were aware of a period of time when the site was down.  On 1st November, from approx 12:30 (UTC), an error message was displayed:
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We were down for about an hour.  Where we being flooded by a DoS attack or similar, or was it just routine server maintenance?  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:44, 1 November 2012 (PDT)
We were down for about an hour.  Where we being flooded by a DoS attack or similar, or was it just routine server maintenance?  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:44, 1 November 2012 (PDT)


== InterwikiMap ==
==[[Interwiki map]]==
 
Hi Mark. Thank you (and all the other contributors to WikiIndex) for your hard work to maintain and administer this site, without which the highest aspirations for the 20,000-wiki [[mw:Extension:InterwikiMap|InterwikiMap]] would not be possible, because there is (to my knowledge) no other wiki directory of the same comprehensiveness as this. I am hoping that within the next week or two, I can submit a version of the extension to the Git repository for code review. Some important requests for comment are [[mw:Extension:InterwikiMap/Data|here]] and [[mw:Canonical interwiki prefixes|here]]. I will soon be creating a list of proposed canonical interwiki prefixes, and will keep you posted on that and invite the comments of the Wikiindex community. My desire is that we adequately discuss the first edition of the list so that when it is published, we will have reached agreement on 99%+ of it and not have to revise prefixes too much later (although of course we'll need to add and remove prefixes from the list as new wikis are born and old wikis die).
Hi Mark.
Thank you (and all the other contributors to WikiIndex) for your hard work to maintain and administer this site, without which the highest aspirations for the 20,000-wiki [[mw:Extension:InterwikiMap|InterwikiMap]] would not be possible, because there is (to my knowledge) no other wiki directory of the same comprehensiveness as this. I am hoping that within the next week or two, I can submit a version of the extension to the Git repository for code review. Some important requests for comment are [[mw:Extension:InterwikiMap/Data|here]] and [[mw:Canonical interwiki prefixes|here]]. I will soon be creating a list of proposed canonical interwiki prefixes, and will keep you posted on that and invite the comments of the Wikiindex community. My desire is that we adequately discuss the first edition of the list so that when it is published, we will have reached agreement on 99%+ of it and not have to revise prefixes too much later (although of course we'll need to add and remove prefixes from the list as new wikis are born and old wikis die).


Please note that there are two parts to this process of data accumulation and distribution: the sending and receiving parts. Step 1 is to get the wikis to reveal more of their data via [[mw:API:Meta]] modules. Then it will be possible to harvest that data using bots, and push it to WikiIndex pages, which are already organized using templates and therefore would be bot-friendly, if you want to go the bot route. Step 2 is to harvest all of WikiIndex's data and push it into a database table (or, to the extent that SMW is in use, it's already in a database that can be conveniently queried). Step 3 is to allow wikis to pull that data from the central repository, which could be hosted at WikiIndex, or [http://meta.inclumedia.org Meta-Inclu], or wherever else is most convenient and can handle the traffic (viz., 20,000 wikis hitting it perhaps daily; that shouldn't be too big a deal, since it's only about, perhaps, a kilobyte of text about each wiki being transferred; so that adds up to 20,000 kilobytes/request multipled by 20,000 wikis/day, which equals 400,000,000 kilobytes/request-day, or 400 megabytes/request-day; that's not so bad). Actually, I may be lowballing it a bit, though, depending on how many fields of data there are going to be.
Please note that there are two parts to this process of data accumulation and distribution: the sending and receiving parts. Step 1 is to get the wikis to reveal more of their data via [[mw:API:Meta]] modules. Then it will be possible to harvest that data using bots, and push it to WikiIndex pages, which are already organized using templates and therefore would be bot-friendly, if you want to go the bot route. Step 2 is to harvest all of WikiIndex's data and push it into a database table (or, to the extent that SMW is in use, it's already in a database that can be conveniently queried). Step 3 is to allow wikis to pull that data from the central repository, which could be hosted at WikiIndex, or [http://meta.inclumedia.org Meta-Inclu], or wherever else is most convenient and can handle the traffic (viz., 20,000 wikis hitting it perhaps daily; that shouldn't be too big a deal, since it's only about, perhaps, a kilobyte of text about each wiki being transferred; so that adds up to 20,000 kilobytes/request multipled by 20,000 wikis/day, which equals 400,000,000 kilobytes/request-day, or 400 megabytes/request-day; that's not so bad). Actually, I may be lowballing it a bit, though, depending on how many fields of data there are going to be.
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There's a question of what to use for the wiki's about page. Currently, that data hasn't yet been accumulated. [[Template:Wiki]] has a wikinode parameter, but no about page parameter. Should we conclude that the wikinode idea is moribund, or should we keep pushing for its adoption? In the meantime, should we begin accumulating URLs for "about" pages? Perhaps in some cases, the about page ''would'' be the wikinode, but usually not. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 19:36, 20 November 2012 (PST)
There's a question of what to use for the wiki's about page. Currently, that data hasn't yet been accumulated. [[Template:Wiki]] has a wikinode parameter, but no about page parameter. Should we conclude that the wikinode idea is moribund, or should we keep pushing for its adoption? In the meantime, should we begin accumulating URLs for "about" pages? Perhaps in some cases, the about page ''would'' be the wikinode, but usually not. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 19:36, 20 November 2012 (PST)


== New User Bot Account ==
==New User Bot Account==
 
Mark, can you please give [[User:LeucosticteBot]] the appropriate [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot Bot account] status?  Best, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:34, 25 November 2012 (PST)
Mark, can you please give [[User:LeucosticteBot]] the appropriate [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot Bot account] status?  Best, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:34, 25 November 2012 (PST)
:Maybe it's time to promote HH to [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&group=bureaucrat crat]? Or at least [[mw:Manual:Establishing a hierarchy of bureaucrats|lieutenant]]. Anyway, I spammed up your RecentChanges with bot edits, but you can hide them from view by retroactively marking them as bot edits with this SQL command to update the [[mw:Manual:Recentchanges table|recentchanges table]]:
:Maybe it's time to promote HH to [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&group=bureaucrat crat]? Or at least [[mw:Manual:Establishing a hierarchy of bureaucrats|lieutenant]]. Anyway, I spammed up your RecentChanges with bot edits, but you can hide them from view by retroactively marking them as bot edits with this SQL command to update the [[mw:Manual:Recentchanges table|recentchanges table]]:
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UPDATE recentchanges
UPDATE recentchanges
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This assumes that you don't have any [[mw:Manual:$wgDBprefix|table prefixes]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 02:54, 26 November 2012 (PST)
This assumes that you don't have any [[mw:Manual:$wgDBprefix|table prefixes]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 02:54, 26 November 2012 (PST)


== Extensions ==
==Extensions==
 
Please install [[mw:Extension:SyntaxHighlight GeSHi]] so that pages like [[WikiIndex:ChangeWikiaEngine.php]] will render properly. I also recommend installing [[mw:Extension:Cite]], e,g, in case anyone wants to copy and paste text concerning a wiki that has references in it. Thanks. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 02:34, 26 November 2012 (PST)
Please install [[mw:Extension:SyntaxHighlight GeSHi]] so that pages like [[WikiIndex:ChangeWikiaEngine.php]] will render properly. I also recommend installing [[mw:Extension:Cite]], e,g, in case anyone wants to copy and paste text concerning a wiki that has references in it. Thanks. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 02:34, 26 November 2012 (PST)


== Need to put LeucosticteBot into the bot group ==
==Need to put LeucosticteBot into the bot group==
 
I can't do this, can you change their user rights group to this Mark? Thankies! [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 03:31, 26 November 2012 (PST)
I can't do this, can you change their user rights group to this Mark? Thankies! [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 03:31, 26 November 2012 (PST)


== InputBox implementing search bar for Template:Wiki ==
==InputBox implementing search bar for Template:Wiki==
 
Please see the discussion [[User talk:Hoof Hearted#Search bar|here]]. I think this type of search bar would be pretty cool to put on the wiki pages. See another example at http://en.RationalWikiWikiWiki.org/wiki/WikiIndex . Do you have any interest in implementing this on WikiIndex? It would require installing the (hacked) [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.classes.php]] and [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.hooks.php]], which replace those two files that come with [[mw:Extension:InputBox]]. The width of the bar and so on can be adjusted by the parameters at [[mw:Manual:Inputbox#Parameters]]. Thanks, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:11, 2 December 2012 (PST)
Please see the discussion [[User_talk:Hoof_Hearted#Search_bar|here]]. I think this type of search bar would be pretty cool to put on the wiki pages. See another example at http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/WikiIndex . Do you have any interest in implementing this on WikiIndex? It would require installing the (hacked) [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.classes.php]] and [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.hooks.php]], which replace those two files that come with [[mw:Extension:InputBox]]. The width of the bar and so on can be adjusted by the parameters at [[mw:Manual:Inputbox#Parameters]]. Thanks, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:11, 2 December 2012 (PST)
 
: If I understand correctly that the search box searches the wiki, that is '''wonderful!''' - Please place it on the upgrade page that Sean has been working on.  Also, place anything on that page that you think would make WikiIndex better.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Thanks for saying hello! ==
: If I understand correctly that the search box searches the wiki, that is '''wonderful!''' - Please place it on the upgrade page that [[Sean]] has been working on.  Also, place anything on that page that you think would make WikiIndex better.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


==Thanks for saying hello!==
I see you said hi to me on my talk page, thought I'd return the favor.
I see you said hi to me on my talk page, thought I'd return the favor.


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Again, thanks for saying hello, and I don't know what I'll be able to contribute here, but I did notice there is an occasional spam problem here, so if I see anything, I'll try to at least flag it for deletion so you guys can deal with it better.
Again, thanks for saying hello, and I don't know what I'll be able to contribute here, but I did notice there is an occasional spam problem here, so if I see anything, I'll try to at least flag it for deletion so you guys can deal with it better.


In fact, if you need another admin to deal with spam or vandals, I'd be happy to help out.
In fact, if you need another admin to deal with spam or vandals, I'd be happy to help out. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 10:15, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
 
[[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 10:15, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
 
== There seems to be an error with the page creation form ==


I tried to create a page for [http://wiki.anotherwebcom.com/Main_Page this wiki] using the "Add a Wiki!" form, and I encountered an error. The website has no "Wikinode", so I left the field with a "No" (as is the default setting), but the forum did not seem to acknowledge this and insisted I entered wikinode information despite the wiki in question not having a wikinode.
==There seems to be an error with the page creation form==
I tried to create a page for this wiki http://wiki.anotherwebcom.com/Main_Page using the "Add a Wiki!" form, and I encountered an error. The website has no "Wikinode", so I left the field with a "No" (as is the default setting), but the forum did not seem to acknowledge this and insisted I entered wikinode information despite the wiki in question not having a wikinode.


(click on the enclosed screenshot to see a visual display of the error)
(click on the enclosed screenshot to see a visual display of the error)


[[:File:FormError.jpg]]
[[File:FormError.jpg|thumb]]


I'm not sure what is wrong, though I suspect there may be a problem with the form not acknowledging the word "No" as a legitimate statement (which it should).
I'm not sure what is wrong, though I suspect there may be a problem with the form not acknowledging the word "No" as a legitimate statement (which it should).


I am not sure how the form was set up, so I thought it best I forward this matter to you since I am not sure how to rectify the error at present. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 18:43, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
I am not sure how the form was set up, so I thought it best I forward this matter to you since I am not sure how to rectify the error at present. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 18:43, 21 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
:[http://wikiindex.org/Another_Web_Company I finally got it to work], but I had to remove the "No" from the WikiNode line to do so.
:[[Another Web Company]] -- I finally got it to work, but I had to remove the "No" from the WikiNode line to do so.
:I suggest this line on the help tab for the Wikinode part of the form "URL to the WikiNode of your wiki. If your wiki does not have a node, please type 'No'." should be rewritten to say "URL to the WikiNode of your wiki. If your wiki does not have a node, please leave it blank", since that seems to have cleared up the error. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 09:14, 22 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
:I suggest this line on the help tab for the Wikinode part of the form "URL to the WikiNode of your wiki. If your wiki does not have a node, please type 'No'." should be rewritten to say "URL to the WikiNode of your wiki. If your wiki does not have a node, please leave it blank", since that seems to have cleared up the error. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 09:14, 22 January 2013 (PST)Arcane
:: I've [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Property%3AWikiNode_URL&diff=165097&oldid=140940 fixed it] before, now you can edit it without any error. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 23:18, 13 April 2013 (PDT)
:: I've [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Property%3AWikiNode_URL&diff=165097&oldid=140940 fixed it] before, now you can edit it without any error. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 23:18, 13 April 2013 (PDT)
: ''Many thanks!!! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''
: ''Many thanks!!! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''


== Thank ==
==Thank==
 
thank you, With a little help reviewing here.- --[[User:Csuarezllosa|Csuarezllosa]] ([[User talk:Csuarezllosa|talk]]) 21:24, 21 February 2013 (PST)
thank you, With a little help reviewing here.- --[[User:Csuarezllosa|Csuarezllosa]] ([[User talk:Csuarezllosa|talk]]) 21:24, 21 February 2013 (PST)


== Just made a fav icon for Wiki Index ==
==Just made a fav icon for Wiki Index==
 
[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] asked me if I wouldn't mind making a probable fav icon for Wiki Index, and since I thought it was a good idea myself I ginned up a possible candidate for that and am leaving it for your inspection and hopeful approval.
[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] asked me if I wouldn't mind making a probable fav icon for Wiki Index, and since I thought it was a good idea myself I ginned up a possible candidate for that and am leaving it for your inspection and hopeful approval.


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[[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 14:55, 15 March 2013 (PDT)Arcane
[[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 14:55, 15 March 2013 (PDT)Arcane


I am pleased with this.  I think running it by [[Ray King]] would be good too.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:I am pleased with this.  I think running it by [[Ray King]] would be good too.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Account oddities ==
==Account oddities==
Hi Mark - there seems to be some oddities with accounts going on.  I tried to update [[Baidu Baike]], but got blocked by the Spam protection filter.  I checked both our [[blacklist]]s – the [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] has a couple of entries for 'baidu.com' (but I left that unchanged).  In the [[My spam blacklist]], I found one entry for 'baidu.com' – which I removed.  However, I still can't update the [[Baidu Baike]] article.  Something's really confusing me though – a new user – [[User:Zhuyifei1999]] a few hours earlier had sucessfully [[Special:Contributions/Zhuyifei1999|edited]] the same article (complete with the addition of [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Baidu_Baike&diff=next&oldid=165088 baidu.com url]).  So how is it that a new (probably not even autoconfirmed user) can over-ride the two spam blacklists, yet a [[sysop]] such as I can not?


Hi Mark - there seems to be some oddities with accounts going on.  I tried to update [[Baidu Baike]], but got blocked by the [[Spam protection filter]].  I checked both our [[blacklist]]s – the [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] has a couple of entries for 'baidu.com' (but I left that unchanged).  In the [[My spam blacklist]], I found one entry for 'baidu.com' – which I removed.  However, I still can't update the [[Baidu Baike]] article.  Something's really confusing me though – a new user – [[User:Zhuyifei1999]] a few hours earlier had sucessfully [[Special:Contributions/Zhuyifei1999|edited]] the same article (complete with the addition of [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Baidu_Baike&diff=next&oldid=165088 baidu.com url]).  So how is it that a new (probably not even autoconfirmed user) can over-ride the two spam blacklists, yet a [[sysop]] such as I can not?
Another thing which is making me curious - when I (regularly) check [[Special:WhosOnline]] – I see the list flooded with users who have been blocked (months ago).  These seem to be permanently 'logged-in' to WikiIndex despite being blocked.  [[Special:WhosOnline]] does not show anon or [[IP editor]]s, so how is it these supposedly banned users are still able to log in?
 
Another thing which is making me curious - when I (regularly) check [[Special:WhosOnline]] – I see the list flooded with users who have been blocked (months ago).  These seem to be permanently 'logged-in' to WikiIndex despite being blocked.  [[Special:WhosOnline]] does not show anon or IP editors, so how is it these supposedly banned users are still able to log in?


Any clues or ideas for these two issues?  Best, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:05, 30 March 2013 (PDT)
Any clues or ideas for these two issues?  Best, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:05, 30 March 2013 (PDT)
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:: ''I notice something that I used to do.  Someone newly comes here and does some edits on the wiki and we are right behind them, changing, or redirecting or something.  When I talked to [[John Stanton]] after a month of starting [[WikiIndex]] he let me know that didn't feel good, like he wasn't doing something right.  I learned that the most important thing here was people participating, less important was getting the page, or the edit right.  Something to think about is all :-)  You are wonderful here and I am super excited about that!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]''
:: ''I notice something that I used to do.  Someone newly comes here and does some edits on the wiki and we are right behind them, changing, or redirecting or something.  When I talked to [[John Stanton]] after a month of starting [[WikiIndex]] he let me know that didn't feel good, like he wasn't doing something right.  I learned that the most important thing here was people participating, less important was getting the page, or the edit right.  Something to think about is all :-)  You are wonderful here and I am super excited about that!  Best, [[MarkDilley]]''


== Inactive and dead wikis ==
==Inactive and [[:Category:Dead|dead]] wikis==
 
What's the difference between them? --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 19:01, 30 March 2013 (PDT)
What's the difference between them? --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 19:01, 30 March 2013 (PDT)


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: I think that would be great and I would like them to all go to the Inactive template if I had any say in the work :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: I think that would be great and I would like them to all go to the Inactive template if I had any say in the work :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Can you enable [[mw:InstantCommons|InstantCommons]]? ==
==Can you enable [[mw:InstantCommons|InstantCommons]]?==
The logo of [[:Category:Wikimedia chapters|Wikimedia chapters]] is at the [[commons:File:Wikimedia logo text RGB.svg|wikimedia commons]]. So it's better to enable InstantCommons so that we can use some images without uploading.--[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 05:49, 6 April 2013 (PDT)


The logo of [[:Category:Wikimedia chapters|wikimedia chapters]] is at the [[commons:File:Wikimedia logo text RGB.svg|wikimedia commons]]. So it's better to enable InstantCommons so that we can use some images without uploading.--[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 05:49, 6 April 2013 (PDT)
: The logo you linked to isn't the Chapters logo!  And I'm not at all sure we need the [[mw:InstantCommons]] extension here on WikiIndex -- probably less than 1% of our logos are Wikimedia logos.  InstantCommons is best used on [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] wikis, or other non WMF wikis which link heavily to the free images held at [[Wikimedia Commons]]. WikiIndex has no need or requirement to link to free images -- we actually have a requirement to often link to copyrighted images (albeit under a 'Fair Use' claim). The two existing methods of image display here on WikiIndex seem to work perfectly satisfactorilly -- those being upload and [[wikilink]], or hotlink.  Best.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:45, 6 April 2013 (PDT)


: The logo you linked to isn't the Chapters logo!  And I'm not at all sure we need the [[mw:InstantCommons]] extension here on WikiIndex -- probably less than 1% of our logos are Wikimedia logos.  InstantCommons is best used on Wikimedia Foundation wikis, or other non WMF wikis which link heavily to the free images held at Wikimedia Commons.  WikiIndex has no need or requirement to link to free images -- we actually have a requirement to often link to copyrighted images (albeit under a 'Fair Use' claim).  The two existing methods of image display here on WikiIndex seem to work perfectly satisfactorilly -- those being upload and wikilink, or hotlink.  Best.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:45, 6 April 2013 (PDT)
:: ''I am unsure of necessity - but I am intrigued by the idea.  Please add to [[Upgrade]]s and include an example of how it is used.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]''
 
:::If you're going to use it, then I recommend using the [[English Wikipedia]] rather than the Wikimedia Commons as your foreign file repo. See http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Special:ViewFiles for an example of how that's done. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 12:28, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
:: ''I am unsure of necessity - but I am intrigued by the idea.  Please add to [[Upgrades]] and include an example of how it is used.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]''
:::If you're going to use it, then I recommend using the English Wikipedia rather than the Wikimedia Commons as your foreign file repo. See http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Special:ViewFiles for an example of how that's done. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 12:28, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
::::That's this section (should ask [[Emufarmers]]):  
::::That's this section (should ask [[Emufarmers]]):  
<pre>$wgForeignFileRepos[] = array(
<pre>$wgForeignFileRepos[] = array(
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:Is there are a way to get the best of both worlds? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:50, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
:Is there are a way to get the best of both worlds? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:50, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


== You're Welcome ==
==You're Welcome==
 
Thanks for the warm welcome, Mark. [[User:Johnny Pez|Johnny Pez]] ([[User talk:Johnny Pez|talk]]) 04:07, 10 April 2013 (PDT)
Thanks for the warm welcome, Mark.
[[User:Johnny Pez|Johnny Pez]] ([[User talk:Johnny Pez|talk]]) 04:07, 10 April 2013 (PDT)
 
== WikiOhana ==


==WikiOhana==
What's the point of [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=141451 this] edit? Why you change [[WikiIndex]] to [[WikiOhana]]? --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2013 (PDT)
What's the point of [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=141451 this] edit? Why you change [[WikiIndex]] to [[WikiOhana]]? --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2013 (PDT)
: Trying to remember the edit, I think that I changed it because [[WikiIndex]] is linked right above it. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: Trying to remember the edit, I think that I changed it because [[WikiIndex]] is linked right above it. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== Sysops and crats discussion ==
==[[Sysop]]s and crats discussion==
 
Are you able to give your opinion on this [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki&diff=prev&oldid=166290 reply from me] in [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Massive Spam User Creation|this section]].  Thanks  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:09, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
Are you able to give your opinion on this [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki&diff=prev&oldid=166290 reply from me] in [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Massive Spam User Creation|this section]].  Thanks  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:09, 22 April 2013 (PDT)


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: Please do both ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: Please do both ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== Meaning of the keys ==
==Meaning of the keys==
 
What does the keys mean? --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 04:17, 23 April 2013 (PDT)
What does the keys mean? --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 04:17, 23 April 2013 (PDT)


== [[:Category:Archived]] ==
==[[:Category:Archived]]==
 
Are we wanting [[:Category:Archived]] to be an official new sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki Status]]?  If so, it needs including into the {{template|WikiStatus}}, and the relevant Semantic Data form will need updating too, and also probably as a sub-cat of [[:Category:Dead]].  I actually think this is a good creation :PPPP
Are we wanting [[:Category:Archived]] to be an official new sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki Status]]?  If so, it needs including into the {{template|WikiStatus}}, and the relevant Semantic Data form will need updating too, and also probably as a sub-cat of [[:Category:Dead]].  I actually think this is a good creation :PPPP
: ''great idea and direction - will mull that over and try to make some edits, although I am still pretty scared if the SMW stuff :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''
: ''great idea and direction - will mull that over and try to make some edits, although I am still pretty scared if the SMW stuff :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''
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::OK, I'll try to e-mail you this Thursday - I'm awaiting some personal news :-(((  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:09, 30 April 2013 (PDT)
::OK, I'll try to e-mail you this Thursday - I'm awaiting some personal news :-(((  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:09, 30 April 2013 (PDT)


== [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] ==
==[[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]==
Originally posted on [[User_talk:Hoof_Hearted#MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]:
Originally posted on [[User talk:Hoof Hearted#MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]:


''Would you mind add another <nowiki><br></nowiki> after all the code of [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]? It looks really weird in the skins [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&useskin=modern modern] and [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&useskin=vector vector]. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  21:27, 30 April 2013 (PDT)''
''Would you mind add another <nowiki><br></nowiki> after all the code of [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]? It looks really weird in the skins [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&useskin=modern modern] and [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&useskin=vector vector]. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  21:27, 30 April 2013 (PDT)''
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--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  12:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small>  12:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


== We just got the Gadgets extension installed, mind if I import some gadgets? ==
==We just got the Gadgets extension installed, mind if I import some gadgets?==
 
I wanted to go by [[English Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] (and some of the other [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] wikis and import a few of the gadgets they have, like WikiEd and HotCat, as well as the UTC clock gadget for those who like that option, as well as few others if you or anyone else has one they'd be interested in.  
I wanted to go by Wikipedia (and some of the other Wikimedia Foundation wikis and import a few of the gadgets they have, like WikiEd and HotCat, as well as the UTC clock gadget for those who like that option, as well as few others if you or anyone else has one they'd be interested in.  
 
Is that alright?


[[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 19:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Arcane
Is that alright?  [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 19:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Arcane


: I don't see immediate issues with it, I am worried about thinking about [[WikiIndex]] as [[Wikipedia]] :-)  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: I don't see immediate issues with it, I am worried about thinking about [[WikiIndex]] as [[Wikipedia]] :-)  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:I installed some basic gadgets for now, didn't want to go too crazy. I added a gadget to display a UTC clock for those who prefer that, a gadget for a purge tab/page refresh option, wikiED (since we don't have the WikiEditor extension, I added this for those who want something similar). I also added an enhanced CharInsert option (you can see the difference when editing pages, as it's enabled by default, makes the custom character insert page a nice looking dropdown menu with easy to select options) and a "Sandbox" page option for those who want to do test edits (also enabled by default), and navigation popups, which allows users to see snippets of pages when hovering over links, as well as providing some extra editing options.
:I installed some basic gadgets for now, didn't want to go too crazy. I added a gadget to display a UTC clock for those who prefer that, a gadget for a purge tab/page refresh option, wikiED (since we don't have the WikiEditor extension, I added this for those who want something similar). I also added an enhanced CharInsert option (you can see the difference when editing pages, as it's enabled by default, makes the custom character insert page a nice looking dropdown menu with easy to select options) and a "Sandbox" page option for those who want to do test edits (also enabled by default), and navigation popups, which allows users to see snippets of pages when hovering over links, as well as providing some extra editing options.
:If you want me to change or remove anything, I'd be happy to. The gadgets that are enabled by default can be easily modified to be optional, and all of these gadgets can be enabled or disabled in the user preferences.
:If you want me to change or remove anything, I'd be happy to. The gadgets that are enabled by default can be easily modified to be optional, and all of these gadgets can be enabled or disabled in the user preferences. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 21:23, 20 June 2013 (UTC) Arcane
[[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 21:23, 20 June 2013 (UTC) Arcane
: I look forward to how they help this place grow!  Can you add info about these to the [[WikiIndex:Community portal|CommunityPortal]]?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: I look forward to how they help this place grow!  Can you add info about these to the [[CommunityPortal]]?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:: And [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] would be good. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
:: And [[Mediawiki:Sitenotice]] would be good. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
:: Added the info to the Sitenotice, wasn't sure where to put the information on the community portal. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 08:01, 21 June 2013 (UTC) Arcane
:: Added the info to the Sitenotice, wasn't sure where to put the information on the community portal. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 08:01, 21 June 2013 (UTC) Arcane
:: I've been testing a few more gadgets and site scripts to enhance WikiIndex on my test wiki, and I was wondering if I could import. AjaxRC and ajaxpreview. The first will make the recent changes page refresh every 30 seconds, so anyone who doesn't want to have to keep refreshing the recent changes page manually can just leave a tab open for it so they can monitor the recent changes with less hassle. This script can either be added to the MediaWiki:Common.js or as a user enabled gadget, was wondering what you would prefer. The second is a gadget that adds arrows to the "Show preview" buttons on the edit screen so the page will show the changes without having to totally reload the page. And, unlike the WikiEditor side by side tabbed preview feature, this version will accurately show any category changes (I disabled the side by side tabbed preview option on my own wiki because it works so well). My personal wiki runs MW 1.21, but these scripts have been tested successfully on MW 1.19+. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 04:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)Arcane
:: I've been testing a few more gadgets and site scripts to enhance WikiIndex on my test wiki, and I was wondering if I could import. AjaxRC and ajaxpreview. The first will make the recent changes page refresh every 30 seconds, so anyone who doesn't want to have to keep refreshing the recent changes page manually can just leave a tab open for it so they can monitor the recent changes with less hassle. This script can either be added to the [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] or as a user enabled gadget, was wondering what you would prefer. The second is a gadget that adds arrows to the "Show preview" buttons on the edit screen so the page will show the changes without having to totally reload the page. And, unlike the WikiEditor side by side tabbed preview feature, this version will accurately show any category changes (I disabled the side by side tabbed preview option on my own wiki because it works so well). My personal wiki runs MW 1.21, but these scripts have been tested successfully on MW 1.19+. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 04:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)Arcane
::: {{support}} as two gadgets. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 04:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
::: {{support}} as two gadgets. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 04:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
::: Go for it! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::: Go for it! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::: Unfortunally your AjaxRC doesn't work in some skins. Example: Modern, which I use. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:36, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
::: Unfortunally your AjaxRC doesn't work in some [[:Category:Skins|skins]]. Example: [[:Category:Modern|Modern]], which I use. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 02:36, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
::: I've only seen it work in skins like Vector or skins that use similar schema. I'll add a note to the Gadget description. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 02:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)Arcane
::: I've only seen it work in skins like [[:Category:Vector|Vector]] or skins that use similar schema. I'll add a note to the Gadget description. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 02:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)Arcane
 
== Category names ==


==Category names==
Two questions:
Two questions:
#Shall we use plural form or single form?
#Shall we use plural form or single form?
#Shall we use CamelCase, Upper Case or Lower case?
#Shall we use [[CamelCase]], Upper Case or Lower case?
Seems that [[Commons]] use plural form and Lower case. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:41, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Seems that [[Wikimedia Commons]] use plural form and Lower case. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:41, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 
== What's the deadline of [[TicsEns]] ==


==What's the deadline of TicsEns==
I would love to delete it. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:19, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
I would love to delete it. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:19, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
: Why don't you give it a deadline and see if you can stretch your patience about it a little longer.  :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: Why don't you give it a deadline and see if you can stretch your patience about it a little longer.  :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:: I would give a week -- due on 25 June 2013‎. But [[User:TicsEns]] is already on Google, and I don't want anyone think our wiki is not in English. BTW, I doubt [[User:TicsEns]] will reply. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:34, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
:: I would give a week -- due on 25 June 2013‎. But User:TicsEns is already on Google, and I don't want anyone think our wiki is not in English. BTW, I doubt User:TicsEns will reply. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:34, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
::: Already deleted most of it. Shall I delete the user page too? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 04:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
::: Already deleted most of it. Shall I delete the user page too? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 04:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
: I think deleting the account page makes sense too.  Many thanks for giving it a little space.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: I think deleting the account page makes sense too.  Many thanks for giving it a little space.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== still a wiki? ==
==still a wiki?==
 
Is the backend of [[Bérardier]] a [[:Category:Drupal|Drupal]] wiki?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Is the backend of [[Bérardier]] a Drupal wiki?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
 
hi! [[MarkDilley]], Yes .[[Bérardier]] is a Drupal wiki .It's shown at the bottom of its webpage ;  --[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 15:51, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


== Editsection inline ==
:hi! [[MarkDilley]], Yes. [[Bérardier]] is a Drupal wiki. It's shown at the bottom of its webpage ;  --[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 15:51, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


<s>How about having [[mw:Snippets/Editsection_inline|editsection inline]] as a site js or a gadget like most wikimedia projects?</s>(The edit button mentioned below would not work if we have that) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 06:25, 24 June 2013 (UTC) PS. The edit button of the news section of [[WikiIndex:Community portal]] is now ''fully cool'', but I do prefer to have a <code><nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki></code>.
==Editsection inline==
<s>How about having [[mw:Snippets/Editsection inline|editsection inline]] as a site js or a gadget like most wikimedia projects?</s>(The edit button mentioned below would not work if we have that) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 06:25, 24 June 2013 (UTC) PS. The edit button of the news section of [[WikiIndex:Community portal]] is now ''fully cool'', but I do prefer to have a <code><nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki></code>.
: trying it... ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: trying it... ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== [[Template:ArchivedWiki]] ==
==Template:ArchivedWiki==
 
Why does that template exist? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 07:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Why does that template exist? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 07:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


== Can't understand your edit ==
==Can't understand your edit==
 
What's the meaning of your edit ([[Special:Permalink/171119]])? It doesn't make any sense to me. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
What's the meaning of your edit ([[Special:Permalink/171119]])? It doesn't make any sense to me. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)


: It was a [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ASidebar&diff=171119&oldid=170777 test] to see if this image would show up on the sidebar. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: It was a [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ASidebar&diff=171119&oldid=170777 test] to see if this image would show up on the sidebar. Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Received my email? ==
==Received my email?==
 
--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:12, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 05:12, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


== Wordsmith ==
==Wordsmith==
 
There's way too many message you can wordsmith/reword on. A list is available at [[Special:AllMessages]]. ([[Sean]] seems really good at rewording, he reworded several of my pages.) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 06:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
There's way too many message you can wordsmith/reword on. A list is available at [[Special:AllMessages]]. ([[Sean]] seems really good at rewording, he reworded several of my pages.) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 06:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
   
   
: I know, I have wordsmithed most of them on other wiki - I just see what comes through on [[RecentChanges]]. :-)  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: I know, I have wordsmithed most of them on other wiki - I just see what comes through on [[RecentChanges]]. :-)  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== To complete translating and linking arabic equivalent ==
==To complete translating and linking arabic equivalent==
Thank you for making changes to the lateral panel of WikiIndex. All is in [[:Category:ArabicTranslation|Arabic]] except for ‘page information’. Can you change this button to  صفحة معلوماتي. The equivalent of Sandbox(mw-head) in Arabic is  ملعب تجربة .


Thank you for making changes to the lateral panel of WikiIndex.  
How to link these buttons directly to pages translated into Arabic and not to those in English , especially إضافة ويكي (WikiIndex:Add a Wiki). I noticed the “other languages “ link at the bottom of the page but not everyone may notice it.  


All is in Arabic except for ‘page information’ .
Gratefulnesses. [[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 14:07, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 
Can you change this button to  صفحة معلوماتي.
 
The equivalent of Sandbox(mw-head)  in Arabic is  ملعب تجربة .
 
How to link these buttons directly to pages translated into Arabic and not to those in English , especially إضافة ويكي (Add a Wiki).
 
I noticed the “other languages “ link at the bottom of the page but not everyone may notice it.
 
Gratefulnesses.[[User:Brahfous|Brahfous]] ([[User talk:Brahfous|talk]]) 14:07, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 
== logo hunting ==


==logo hunting==
If you look closly at the source, you can find something like this:  
If you look closly at the source, you can find something like this:  
<code><pre> <!-- logo -->
<code><pre> <!-- logo -->
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: I think I see now, that is just me not having time, or being lazy.  Quite familiar with digging around to find logos and such :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: I think I see now, that is just me not having time, or being lazy.  Quite familiar with digging around to find logos and such :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Plainlinks shortcut ==
==Plainlinks shortcut==
 
Gadget CharInsert used? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:32, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Gadget CharInsert used? --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:32, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:Is this something that I could have disabled in my preferences? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::I guess it's Gadget CharInsert. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:29, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


Is this something that I could have disabled in my preferences? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
==Admin rights==
:I guess it's Gadget CharInsert. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:29, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 
== Admin rights ==
 
'''Proposal''' I'd like to request admin rights on this wiki. I've seen your name around several places on here and you're evidently a bureaucrat as well. I have rights on several wikis, including admin status on several Wikimedia projects and [[Freedom Defined]]. If you think I'd be an acceptable admin, I'd appreciate the opportunity to have the tools. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 07:56, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
'''Proposal''' I'd like to request admin rights on this wiki. I've seen your name around several places on here and you're evidently a bureaucrat as well. I have rights on several wikis, including admin status on several Wikimedia projects and [[Freedom Defined]]. If you think I'd be an acceptable admin, I'd appreciate the opportunity to have the tools. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 07:56, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


== Canonical interwiki prefixes, II ==
==Canonical interwiki prefixes, II==
 
Hi Mark, I can write [[mw:Canonical interwiki prefixes/Proposed extension|an extension]] to help distribute a list of [[mw:Canonical interwiki prefixes|canonical interwiki prefixes]]. The way it will work is that there will be a [[mw:Manual:Tag extensions|parser extension tag]] or [[mw:Manual:Parser functions|parser function hook]], e.g.:
Hi Mark,
I can write [[mw:Canonical interwiki prefixes/Proposed extension|an extension]] to help distribute a list of [[mw:Canonical interwiki prefixes|canonical interwiki prefixes]]. The way it will work is that there will be a [[mw:Manual:Tag extensions|parser extension tag]] or [[mw:Manual:Parser functions|parser function hook]], e.g.:
  <nowiki><interwiki_prefix prefix="nathaniawiki" url="http://nathania.org/wiki/$1" apiurl="http://nathania.org/w/api.php"/></nowiki>
  <nowiki><interwiki_prefix prefix="nathaniawiki" url="http://nathania.org/wiki/$1" apiurl="http://nathania.org/w/api.php"/></nowiki>
or:
or:
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As with any extension, this will involve some troubleshooting and at least several versions to get all the bugs out and make the extension do everything we want it to do. So, ideally I would have access to FTP, phpMyAdmin and the shell. Alternatively, I would at least need someone with such access to make requested upgrades to the extension code in a timely manner. If that's not possible, then this probably isn't practicable. What do you think? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 01:40, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
As with any extension, this will involve some troubleshooting and at least several versions to get all the bugs out and make the extension do everything we want it to do. So, ideally I would have access to FTP, phpMyAdmin and the shell. Alternatively, I would at least need someone with such access to make requested upgrades to the extension code in a timely manner. If that's not possible, then this probably isn't practicable. What do you think? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 01:40, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


== Received my emails? ==
==Received my emails?==
 
Sent some recently. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:50, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Sent some recently. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:50, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


== E-mail ==
==E-mail==
 
'''Not working''' I tried to e-mail you from your [http://www.communitywiki.org/mark/ContactInfo contact info at your personal site] but both addresses had delivery failures. Do you want to contact me? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 03:40, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
'''Not working''' I tried to e-mail you from your [http://www.communitywiki.org/mark/ContactInfo contact info at your personal site] but both addresses had delivery failures. Do you want to contact me? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 03:40, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
:@Koavf: It should have gmail dot com as the domain name. See [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-blocked-display]]. If still fail, try using lowercase. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:15, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
:@Koavf: It should have gmail dot com as the domain name. See [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-blocked-display]]. If still fail, try using lowercase. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:15, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


== RedditWiki ==
==Reddit==
 
'''Userfied here [[User:MarkDilley/Reddit]]''' I deleted then undeleted and moved this page. Reddit allows subreddits, each of which can have its own wiki which is heavily modded/skinned [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]], as I recall. I'm now sure what you want to do about this: are you planning on having articles on thousands of subreddit wikis? Or maybe just one article talking about how wikis work on reddit? (The latter seems feasible and useful, the former completely insane). I was quick to delete but when I realized that you had done it, I thought, "Oh, he's probably doing something here that's smarter than I realize..." [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 08:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
'''Userfied here [[User:MarkDilley/RedditWiki]]''' I deleted then undeleted and moved this page. Reddit allows subreddits, each of which can have its own wiki which is heavily modded/skinned MediaWiki, as I recall. I'm now sure what you want to do about this: are you planning on having articles on thousands of subreddit wikis? Or maybe just one article talking about how wikis work on reddit? (The latter seems feasible and useful, the former completely insane). I was quick to delete but when I realized that you had done it, I thought, "Oh, he's probably doing something here that's smarter than I realize..." [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 08:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


: ''I think the idea you bring up is the best, one wiki page for Reddit.  I suppose if there is an important subreddit it could be added, maybe something like [[RedditWiki/subreddit]].  What do you think?  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''
: ''I think the idea you bring up is the best, one wiki page for [[reddit]].  I suppose if there is an important subreddit it could be added, maybe something like [[reddit/subreddit]].  What do you think?  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]''
::'''Sure''' That sounds reasonable. I've never seen any subreddit wikis that have much in the way of traffic or activity but it's hardly impossible. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 19:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
::'''Sure''' That sounds reasonable. I've never seen any subreddit wikis that have much in the way of traffic or activity but it's hardly impossible. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 19:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


== [[Special:Replace Text]] and [[Special:ListGroupRights|user group rights]] ==
==[[Special:ReplaceText]] and [[Special:ListGroupRights|user group rights]]==
Hi Mark, and Happy New Year to you. :)
Hi Mark, and Happy New Year to you. :)


I've just noticed that [[Special:Replace Text]] appears to have vanished from [[Special:Version|our installation]].  I'm guessing this happened during the MW software upgrade last year.  Checking on the [[mw:Extension:Replace Text|MediaWiki.org page]], it states that the Extension:Replace Text can be added as either a stand-alone add-on, or is available within the [[mw:Semantic Bundle|Semantic Bundle]] (which we do have - Version 1.8.0.4).  Can you please re-instate this?
I've just noticed that [[Special:ReplaceText]] appears to have vanished from [[Special:Version|our installation]].  I'm guessing this happened during the MW software upgrade last year.  Checking on the [[mw:Extension:Replace Text|MediaWiki.org page]], it states that the Extension:Replace Text can be added as either a stand-alone add-on, or is available within the [[mw:Semantic Bundle|Semantic Bundle]] (which we do have - Version 1.8.0.4).  Can you please re-instate this?


And can I also make an additional request regarding our [[Special:ListGroupRights|user group rights]].  I noticed we now have a new group called ''''autoconfirmed users'''' – can I propose two new custom user groups; the first called ''''autopatrolled users'''', where members will "Have one's own edits automatically marked as patrolled".  At the moment, this right is only granted to [[sysop]]s.  I suggest that 'autopatrolled users' be granted to existing trusted members of WikiIndex who are not sysops.  The second new user group could be called ''''spam fighter'''', and this group would again be for trusted users who have an interest in helping managing spam (such as [[YiFei]]).  The rights of the 'spam fighter' group would include global access to the abuse filters, such as <tt>(abusefilter-modify)</tt>, <tt>(abusefilter-modify-restricted)</tt>, <tt>(abusefilter-revert)</tt> and <tt>(abusefilter-private)</tt>.
And can I also make an additional request regarding our [[Special:ListGroupRights|user group rights]].  I noticed we now have a new group called ''''autoconfirmed users'''' – can I propose two new custom user groups; the first called ''''autopatrolled users'''', where members will "Have one's own edits automatically marked as patrolled".  At the moment, this right is only granted to [[sysop]]s.  I suggest that 'autopatrolled users' be granted to existing trusted members of WikiIndex who are not sysops.  The second new user group could be called ''''spam fighter'''', and this group would again be for trusted users who have an interest in helping managing spam (such as [[YiFei]]).  The rights of the 'spam fighter' group would include global access to the abuse filters, such as <tt>(abusefilter-modify)</tt>, <tt>(abusefilter-modify-restricted)</tt>, <tt>(abusefilter-revert)</tt> and <tt>(abusefilter-private)</tt>.
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:::@Mark: It's up to you about ^^ --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 14:48, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
:::@Mark: It's up to you about ^^ --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 14:48, 3 January 2014 (UTC)


Sorry folks, just seeing this.  The technical issue, put on [[Upgrades]] and the fine grain permissions classifications generally go against my SimplierIsBetter tendencies. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
Sorry folks, just seeing this.  The technical issue, put on [[Upgrade]]s and the fine grain permissions classifications generally go against my SimplierIsBetter tendencies. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
 
== New favicon ==


Hi Mark, <br/>
==New favicon==
sometimes I visit WikiIndex (sadly, I've currently no much time for it). <br/>  
Hi Mark, sometimes I visit WikiIndex (sadly, I've currently no much time for it). <br>  
Today I saw that there is a new(?) [http://wikiindex.org/favicon.ico favicon]. It's nice :)
Today I saw that there is a new(?) [https://WikiIndex.org/favicon.ico favicon]. It's nice :)
* Who made it?  
* Who made it?  
* Is there a ref copy in the [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=6 File namespace]?  
* Is there a ref copy in the [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=6 File namespace]?  
Best [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 12:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Best [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 12:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


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:Done :)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
:Done :)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC)


== This should clean out the spam accounts ==
==This should clean out the spam accounts==
 
[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RemoveUnusedAccounts.php This MediaWiki user script] should clean out most if not all of our current spam accounts. Someone with shell access needs to run it, but it's easy to do. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 01:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RemoveUnusedAccounts.php This MediaWiki user script] should clean out most if not all of our current spam accounts. Someone with shell access needs to run it, but it's easy to do. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 01:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:This sounds great!  Is it something you can do? Or how do we plan to get it done?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
::Hi Mark.  I hope all is well with you and yours.  If you need someone, I can run RemoveUnusedAccounts since I have root access on the server that hosts wikiindex.  Are you guys using the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke that is already installed on this wiki?  It's a good way to delete all the pages that the spammers have created.  Warm Regards, [[BrandonCsSanders]]
:::HI Brandon, that would be great.  I don't think we have had an issue in spam page creation in a while, so not have used Nuke ever.  Nice to see you.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]


This sounds great!  Is it something you can do? Or how do we plan to get it done?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
==Whitelist==
 
Hi Mark.  I hope all is well with you and yours.  If you need someone, I can run RemoveUnusedAccounts since I have root access on the server that hosts wikiindex.  Are you guys using the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke that is already installed on this wiki?  It's a good way to delete all the pages that the spammers have created.  Warm Regards, [[BrandonCsSanders]]
 
HI Brandon, that would be great.  I don't think we have had an issue in spam page creation in a while, so not have used Nuke ever.  Nice to see you.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
 
== Whitelist ==
 
Thank you for whitelisting the site. --[[User:Redgreenfourties|Redgreenfourties]] ([[User talk:Redgreenfourties|talk]]) 16:44, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for whitelisting the site. --[[User:Redgreenfourties|Redgreenfourties]] ([[User talk:Redgreenfourties|talk]]) 16:44, 2 May 2014 (UTC)


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: Yeah, it looks broken without the Semantic MediaWiki plugin, for sure. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: Yeah, it looks broken without the Semantic MediaWiki plugin, for sure. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== eMail function on WikiIndex still not working? ==
==eMail function on WikiIndex still not working?==
 
Dear Mark, I'm fine ;-) But WikiIndex seems not to be since long. I had quite some trouble to get an account here. Two admins where needed to get it to work. And the function for eMail verification seams to be never installed. Now, this is not sooo much my home, wikiwise https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Manorainjan is my home. Now I'm rather active here, in order to get warm with the system, clean up stuff I'm interested in and do some adding of wikis. But then I would come less often. I would not notice any stuff on my talk page. Also most basic pages are not set, like the TOS-page one "has" to read and accept during registration of account. This is not funny any more.
Dear Mark, I'm fine ;-)
But WikiIndex seems not to be since long.
I had quite some trouble to get an account here.
Two admins where needed to get it to work.
And the function for eMail verification seams to be never installed.
Now, this is not sooo much my home, wikiwise https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Manorainjan is my home.
Now I'm rather active here, in order to get warm with the system, clean up stuff I'm interested in and do some adding of wikis.
But then I would come less often.
I would not notice any stuff on my talk page.
Also most basic pages are not set, like the TOS-page one "has" to read and accept during registration of account.
This is not funny any more.


So, why is the eMail functionality not working?--[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:02, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
So, why is the eMail functionality not working?--[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:02, 29 July 2014 (UTC)


: Email isn't working even after a fresh install of the latest stable version, after several years since an update.  So, I don't have a clue where to start on that one.  I grew up on non automated alerts on wiki, so the email alerts are a bonus, but don't necessarily bother me personally.  I do understand that being broken, they are a major inconvenience.  If you would be interested, we should clear up the [[Upgrades]] page and get is started with this issue.  Also, I didn't know about any trouble getting an account.  That would also be good to document on the [[Upgrades]] page.   
: Email isn't working even after a fresh install of the latest stable version, after several years since an update.  So, I don't have a clue where to start on that one.  I grew up on non automated alerts on wiki, so the email alerts are a bonus, but don't necessarily bother me personally.  I do understand that being broken, they are a major inconvenience.  If you would be interested, we should clear up the [[Upgrade]]s page and get is started with this issue.  Also, I didn't know about any trouble getting an account.  That would also be good to document on the [[Upgrade]]s page.   


: WikiIndex has been working along ok.  We did just have an upgrade, and before that, we did go Semantic MediaWiki -  we cleared up a bad spam time or two - we edit a little most days, some days a lot.  You are completely invited to [[BeBold]] and make edits to whatever you wish.  [[Revert]]s happen and if there is an issue, we can talk about it to come up with a solution.  Often there are no issues.  There are many more things that WikiIndex can do or be and I could have a greater role in trying to make those things happen, I will agree with that!  My best to you, [[MarkDilley]]
: WikiIndex has been working along ok.  We did just have an upgrade, and before that, we did go Semantic MediaWiki -  we cleared up a bad spam time or two - we edit a little most days, some days a lot.  You are completely invited to [[BeBold]] and make edits to whatever you wish.  [[Revert]]s happen and if there is an issue, we can talk about it to come up with a solution.  Often there are no issues.  There are many more things that WikiIndex can do or be and I could have a greater role in trying to make those things happen, I will agree with that!  My best to you, [[MarkDilley]]
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:: I concretised the TOS-page which You created. Please check it! --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:09, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
:: I concretised the TOS-page which You created. Please check it! --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:09, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


== Puffff.... ==
==Puffff....==
 
Mark, please have a look at the history of [[AnansiWebWiki]]. I did some nonsense I do not understand. And suddenly my edits are gone for good..... I could revert it and got the good edit back, but have no idea how it went. happened already the 2nd time... funny thing ... half of my last mini-edit survived, other half not. (I noted the year of 404 which went and I shifted the notice about engine in the form which stayed.)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:38, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Mark, please have a look at the history of [[AnansiWebWiki]].
I did some nonsense I do not understand. And suddenly my edits are gone for good..... I could revert it and got the good edit back, but have no idea how it went. happened already the 2nd time... funny thing ... half of my last mini-edit survived, other half not. (I noted the year of 404 which went and I shifted the notice about engine in the form which stayed.)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 01:38, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


: could you link directly to the [[diff]] of the edit(s) you are speaking of?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
: could you link directly to the [[diff]] of the edit(s) you are speaking of?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
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: What I can see from the history is, that the suspect called MarvelZuvembie, a notorious inactivator, was sneaking around there and did one edit only 8 minutes after my last one. ;-)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:25, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
: What I can see from the history is, that the suspect called MarvelZuvembie, a notorious inactivator, was sneaking around there and did one edit only 8 minutes after my last one. ;-)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:25, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


: Community member [[MarvelZuvembie]] made and edit, but I don't see that it was to put the inactive template in  [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Anansi-Web_Wiki&diff=179436&oldid=179431] :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: Community member {{u|MarvelZuvembie}} made and edit, but I don't see that it was to put the inactive template in  [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Anansi-Web_Wiki&diff=179436&oldid=179431] :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
 
== Preistreiberei ==


I was mimicking this behaviour ;-)
==Preistreiberei==
http://wikiindex.org/WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal/Archive_2#the_other_wiki_index
I was mimicking this behaviour ;-) [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal/Archive 2#the other wiki index]]


: yep, :-) - picked up Wikindex.org after that conversation I believe and we switched from WikiIndex.com to WikiIndex.org at some point around then.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
: yep, :-) - picked up Wikindex.org after that conversation I believe and we switched from WikiIndex.com to WikiIndex.org at some point around then.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


== Get involved ;-) ==
==Get involved ;-)==
 
[[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Template:Inactive]] --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
http://wikiindex.org/WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Template:Inactive [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
:thanks
 
thanks

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