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==wikiindex page about Recent Changes Camp?== | ==wikiindex page about Recent Changes Camp?== | ||
Should there be a WikiIndex page about | Should there be a WikiIndex page about Recent Changes Camp? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:43, 14 November 2010 (PST) | ||
: Oops. There is one (at "[[RecentChangesCamp]]"). Move it to "Recent Changes Camp"? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:49, 14 November 2010 (PST) | : Oops. There is one (at "[[RecentChangesCamp]]"). Move it to "Recent Changes Camp"? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 01:49, 14 November 2010 (PST) | ||
:: will [[redirect]] the non-[[CamelCase]]d one. Thanks! ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | :: will [[redirect]] the non-[[CamelCase]]d one. Thanks! ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
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==wikiFactor 20== | ==wikiFactor 20== | ||
"is it correct that the [[wikiFactor]] would go to 20 when the twentieth most popular page reaches 20,000?" | "is it correct that the [[wikiFactor]] would go to 20 when the twentieth most popular page reaches 20,000?" | ||
:You are indeed correct! All the best, --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[ | :You are indeed correct! All the best, --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 09:36, 1 February 2012 (PST) | ||
==Do we have the | ==Do we have the {{Mw|Extension:Renameuser|RenameUser extension}}?== | ||
I forgot to ask about this earlier. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 24 2012 | I forgot to ask about this earlier. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''', 05 24 2012 | ||
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==[[Interwiki map]]== | ==[[Interwiki map]]== | ||
Hi Mark. Thank you (and all the other contributors to WikiIndex) for your hard work to maintain and administer this site, without which the highest aspirations for the 20,000-wiki | Hi Mark. Thank you (and all the other contributors to WikiIndex) for your hard work to maintain and administer this site, without which the highest aspirations for the 20,000-wiki {{Mw|Extension:InterwikiMap|InterwikiMap}} would not be possible, because there is (to my knowledge) no other wiki directory of the same comprehensiveness as this. I am hoping that within the next week or two, I can submit a version of the extension to the Git repository for code review. Some important requests for comment are {{Mw|Extension:InterwikiMap/Data|here}} and {{Mw|Canonical interwiki prefixes|here}}. I will soon be creating a list of proposed canonical interwiki prefixes, and will keep you posted on that and invite the comments of the WikiIndex community. My desire is that we adequately discuss the first edition of the list so that when it is published, we will have reached agreement on 99%+ of it and not have to revise prefixes too much later (although of course we'll need to add and remove prefixes from the list as new wikis are born and old wikis die). | ||
Please note that there are two parts to this process of data accumulation and distribution: the sending and receiving parts. Step 1 is to get the wikis to reveal more of their data via | Please note that there are two parts to this process of data accumulation and distribution: the sending and receiving parts. Step 1 is to get the wikis to reveal more of their data via {{Mw|API:Meta}} modules. Then it will be possible to harvest that data using bots, and push it to WikiIndex pages, which are already organized using templates and therefore would be bot-friendly, if you want to go the bot route. Step 2 is to harvest all of WikiIndex's data and push it into a database table (or, to the extent that SMW is in use, it's already in a database that can be conveniently queried). Step 3 is to allow wikis to pull that data from the central repository, which could be hosted at WikiIndex, or [http://meta.inclumedia.org Meta-Inclu], or wherever else is most convenient and can handle the traffic (viz., 20,000 wikis hitting it perhaps daily; that shouldn't be too big a deal, since it's only about, perhaps, a kilobyte of text about each wiki being transferred; so that adds up to 20,000 kilobytes/request multiplied by 20,000 wikis/day, which equals 400,000,000 kilobytes/request-day, or 400 megabytes/request-day; that's not so bad). Actually, I may be lowballing it a bit, though, depending on how many fields of data there are going to be. | ||
Step 4 is for each wiki to filter that data according to its criteria. The question is, will there be a demand for such filtering, or will wikis just want to load all 20,000 prefixes into the interwiki tables? If the latter, then maybe we don't need to distribute all that site data, in which case, the data transfer load can be significantly cut down to something more manageable. In other words, we can reduce it from a kilobyte of text per wiki to maybe one-quarter that. I think, though, that at a minimum they will want to filter based on wiki status (e.g. Dead, Spammed, etc.) | Step 4 is for each wiki to filter that data according to its criteria. The question is, will there be a demand for such filtering, or will wikis just want to load all 20,000 prefixes into the interwiki tables? If the latter, then maybe we don't need to distribute all that site data, in which case, the data transfer load can be significantly cut down to something more manageable. In other words, we can reduce it from a kilobyte of text per wiki to maybe one-quarter that. I think, though, that at a minimum they will want to filter based on wiki status (e.g. Dead, Spammed, etc.) | ||
I think as a minimum, though, we should have, as an API-accessible field on each wiki using InterwikiMap, a URL for some sort of general information page. Maybe there should be two URLs — one for the wiki's about page (so we get their view) and one for | I think as a minimum, though, we should have, as an API-accessible field on each wiki using InterwikiMap, a URL for some sort of general information page. Maybe there should be two URLs — one for the wiki's about page (so we get their view) and one for WikiIndex's page (so we get the WikiIndex community's view). WikiIndex, of course, can link to even more articles (e.g. in some cases, Wikipedia articles) giving more views about the wikis in question. But I think it's important that users browsing through the interwiki list have a quick way to get info about the various wikis they see on it. | ||
There's a question of what to use for the wiki's about page. Currently, that data hasn't yet been accumulated. [[Template:Wiki]] has a | There's a question of what to use for the wiki's about page. Currently, that data hasn't yet been accumulated. [[Template:Wiki]] has a WikiNode parameter, but no about page parameter. Should we conclude that the WikiNode idea is moribund, or should we keep pushing for its adoption? In the meantime, should we begin accumulating URLs for "about" pages? Perhaps in some cases, the about page ''would'' be the WikiNode, but usually not. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 19:36, 20 November 2012 (PST) | ||
==New User Bot Account== | ==New User Bot Account== | ||
Mark, can you please give [[User:LeucosticteBot]] the appropriate [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot Bot account] status? Best, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:34, 25 November 2012 (PST) | Mark, can you please give [[User:LeucosticteBot]] the appropriate [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot Bot account] status? Best, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:34, 25 November 2012 (PST) | ||
:Maybe it's time to promote HH to [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special | :Maybe it's time to promote HH to [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bureaucrat crat]? Or at least {{Mw|Manual:Establishing a hierarchy of bureaucrats|lieutenant}}. Anyway, I spammed up your RecentChanges with bot edits, but you can hide them from view by retroactively marking them as bot edits with this SQL command to update the {{Mw|Manual:Recentchanges table|recentchanges table}}: | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
UPDATE recentchanges | UPDATE recentchanges | ||
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WHERE rc_user_text='LeucosticteBot'; | WHERE rc_user_text='LeucosticteBot'; | ||
</pre> | </pre> | ||
This assumes that you don't have any | This assumes that you don't have any {{Mw|Manual:$wgDBprefix|table prefixes}}. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 02:54, 26 November 2012 (PST) | ||
==Extensions== | ==Extensions== | ||
Please install | Please install {{Mw|Extension:SyntaxHighlight GeSHi}} so that pages like [[WikiIndex:ChangeWikiaEngine.php]] will render properly. I also recommend installing {{Mw|Extension:Cite}}, e,g, in case anyone wants to copy and paste text concerning a wiki that has references in it. Thanks. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 02:34, 26 November 2012 (PST) | ||
==Need to put LeucosticteBot into the bot group== | ==Need to put LeucosticteBot into the bot group== | ||
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==InputBox implementing search bar for Template:Wiki== | ==InputBox implementing search bar for Template:Wiki== | ||
Please see the discussion [[User talk:Hoof Hearted#Search bar|here]]. I think this type of search bar would be pretty cool to put on the wiki pages. See another example at http://en.RationalWikiWikiWiki.org/wiki/WikiIndex . Do you have any interest in implementing this on WikiIndex? It would require installing the (hacked) [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.classes.php]] and [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.hooks.php]], which replace those two files that come with | Please see the discussion [[User talk:Hoof Hearted#Search bar|here]]. I think this type of search bar would be pretty cool to put on the wiki pages. See another example at http://en.RationalWikiWikiWiki.org/wiki/WikiIndex . Do you have any interest in implementing this on WikiIndex? It would require installing the (hacked) [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.classes.php]] and [[User:Leucosticte/InputBox.hooks.php]], which replace those two files that come with {{Mw|Extension:InputBox}}. The width of the bar and so on can be adjusted by the parameters at {{Mw|Manual:Inputbox#Parameters}}. Thanks, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:11, 2 December 2012 (PST) | ||
: If I understand correctly that the search box searches the wiki, that is '''wonderful!''' - Please place it on the upgrade page that [[Sean]] has been working on. Also, place anything on that page that you think would make WikiIndex better. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | : If I understand correctly that the search box searches the wiki, that is '''wonderful!''' - Please place it on the upgrade page that [[Sean]] has been working on. Also, place anything on that page that you think would make WikiIndex better. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
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:[[Another Web Company]] -- I finally got it to work, but I had to remove the "No" from the WikiNode line to do so. | :[[Another Web Company]] -- I finally got it to work, but I had to remove the "No" from the WikiNode line to do so. | ||
:I suggest this line on the help tab for the Wikinode part of the form "URL to the WikiNode of your wiki. If your wiki does not have a node, please type 'No'." should be rewritten to say "URL to the WikiNode of your wiki. If your wiki does not have a node, please leave it blank", since that seems to have cleared up the error. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 09:14, 22 January 2013 (PST)Arcane | :I suggest this line on the help tab for the Wikinode part of the form "URL to the WikiNode of your wiki. If your wiki does not have a node, please type 'No'." should be rewritten to say "URL to the WikiNode of your wiki. If your wiki does not have a node, please leave it blank", since that seems to have cleared up the error. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 09:14, 22 January 2013 (PST)Arcane | ||
:: I've [ | :: I've [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Property:WikiNode_URL&diff=165097&oldid=140940 fixed it] before, now you can edit it without any error. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 23:18, 13 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
: ''Many thanks!!! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'' | : ''Many thanks!!! ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'' | ||
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==Account oddities== | ==Account oddities== | ||
Hi Mark - there seems to be some oddities with accounts going on. I tried to update [[Baidu Baike]], but got blocked by the Spam protection filter. I checked both our [[blacklist]]s – the [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] has a couple of entries for 'baidu.com' (but I left that unchanged). In the [[My spam blacklist]], I found one entry for 'baidu.com' – which I removed. However, I still can't update the [[Baidu Baike]] article. Something's really confusing me though – a new user – [[User:Zhuyifei1999]] a few hours earlier had sucessfully [[Special:Contributions/Zhuyifei1999|edited]] the same article (complete with the addition of [ | Hi Mark - there seems to be some oddities with accounts going on. I tried to update [[Baidu Baike]], but got blocked by the Spam protection filter. I checked both our [[blacklist]]s – the [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] has a couple of entries for 'baidu.com' (but I left that unchanged). In the [[My spam blacklist]], I found one entry for 'baidu.com' – which I removed. However, I still can't update the [[Baidu Baike]] article. Something's really confusing me though – a new user – [[User:Zhuyifei1999]] a few hours earlier had sucessfully [[Special:Contributions/Zhuyifei1999|edited]] the same article (complete with the addition of [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Baidu_Baike&diff=next&oldid=165088 baidu.com url]). So how is it that a new (probably not even autoconfirmed user) can over-ride the two spam blacklists, yet a [[sysop]] such as I can not? | ||
Another thing which is making me curious - when I (regularly) check [[Special:WhosOnline]] – I see the list flooded with users who have been blocked (months ago). These seem to be permanently 'logged-in' to WikiIndex despite being blocked. [[Special:WhosOnline]] does not show anon or [[IP editor]]s, so how is it these supposedly banned users are still able to log in? | Another thing which is making me curious - when I (regularly) check [[Special:WhosOnline]] – I see the list flooded with users who have been blocked (months ago). These seem to be permanently 'logged-in' to WikiIndex despite being blocked. [[Special:WhosOnline]] does not show anon or [[IP editor]]s, so how is it these supposedly banned users are still able to log in? | ||
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:: ''sounds like the cache delay is the issue. don't know why a sysop was blocked but a regular account can edit. maybe privileges are messed up in the backend somewhere? ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | :: ''sounds like the cache delay is the issue. don't know why a sysop was blocked but a regular account can edit. maybe privileges are messed up in the backend somewhere? ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
: Online issues - I really think we need to also delete said accounts of spammers. Like you say, blocking them just prevents them from editing, but they can still flood us by being online. If we both block them, and then also delete them, this will sort out this issue. But only a crat can delete accounts. We really ought to install | : Online issues - I really think we need to also delete said accounts of spammers. Like you say, blocking them just prevents them from editing, but they can still flood us by being online. If we both block them, and then also delete them, this will sort out this issue. But only a crat can delete accounts. We really ought to install {{Mw|Extension:CheckUser}} as a matter of urgency, so we can range-block IPs. | ||
:: ''How can I as a 'crat delete the account? I think | :: ''How can I as a 'crat delete the account? I think {{Mw|Extension:CheckUser}} on the [[Upgrade]] list for consideration. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'' | ||
: Anyone in particular of where I've been heavy handed??? :-( Best, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:02, 31 March 2013 (PDT) | : Anyone in particular of where I've been heavy handed??? :-( Best, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:02, 31 March 2013 (PDT) | ||
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: I think that would be great and I would like them to all go to the Inactive template if I had any say in the work :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | : I think that would be great and I would like them to all go to the Inactive template if I had any say in the work :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==Can you enable | ==Can you enable {{Mw|InstantCommons}}?== | ||
The logo of [[:Category:Wikimedia chapters|Wikimedia chapters]] is at the [[commons:File:Wikimedia logo text RGB.svg|wikimedia commons]]. So it's better to enable InstantCommons so that we can use some images without uploading.--[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 05:49, 6 April 2013 (PDT) | The logo of [[:Category:Wikimedia chapters|Wikimedia chapters]] is at the [[commons:File:Wikimedia logo text RGB.svg|wikimedia commons]]. So it's better to enable InstantCommons so that we can use some images without uploading.--[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 05:49, 6 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
: The logo you linked to isn't the Chapters logo! And I'm not at all sure we need the | : The logo you linked to isn't the Chapters logo! And I'm not at all sure we need the {{Mw|InstantCommons}} extension here on WikiIndex -- probably less than 1% of our logos are Wikimedia logos. InstantCommons is best used on [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] wikis, or other non WMF wikis which link heavily to the free images held at [[Wikimedia Commons]]. WikiIndex has no need or requirement to link to free images -- we actually have a requirement to often link to copyrighted images (albeit under a 'Fair Use' claim). The two existing methods of image display here on WikiIndex seem to work perfectly satisfactorilly -- those being upload and [[wikilink]], or hotlink. Best. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:45, 6 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
:: ''I am unsure of necessity - but I am intrigued by the idea. Please add to [[Upgrade]]s and include an example of how it is used. Best, [[MarkDilley]]'' | :: ''I am unsure of necessity - but I am intrigued by the idea. Please add to [[Upgrade]]s and include an example of how it is used. Best, [[MarkDilley]]'' | ||
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'class' => 'ForeignAPIRepo', | 'class' => 'ForeignAPIRepo', | ||
'name' => 'shared', | 'name' => 'shared', | ||
'apibase' => ' | 'apibase' => 'https://En.Wikipedia.org/w/api.php', | ||
'fetchDescription' => true, // Optional | 'fetchDescription' => true, // Optional | ||
'descriptionCacheExpiry' => 86400, // 24 hours, optional (values are seconds) | 'descriptionCacheExpiry' => 86400, // 24 hours, optional (values are seconds) | ||
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==WikiOhana== | ==WikiOhana== | ||
What's the point of [ | What's the point of [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=141451 this] edit? Why you change [[WikiIndex]] to [[WikiOhana]]? --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
: Trying to remember the edit, I think that I changed it because [[WikiIndex]] is linked right above it. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | : Trying to remember the edit, I think that I changed it because [[WikiIndex]] is linked right above it. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==[[Sysop]]s and crats discussion== | ==[[Sysop]]s and crats discussion== | ||
Are you able to give your opinion on this [ | Are you able to give your opinion on this [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki&diff=prev&oldid=166290 reply from me] in [[Category talk:Active administrators of this wiki#Massive Spam User Creation|this section]]. Thanks [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 03:09, 22 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
:Thanks for looking into that. I'm glad you got Jack onboard. I also noticed you sneaked another one under the radar - you made me a crat too - wasn't expecting that ://// I also think that [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] should be made a crat too (she has a good handle on her own [[SuccuWiki]]). And I noticed that whilst [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] was removed from being a Sysop a while back, she's still listed as an [ | :Thanks for looking into that. I'm glad you got Jack onboard. I also noticed you sneaked another one under the radar - you made me a crat too - wasn't expecting that ://// I also think that [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] should be made a crat too (she has a good handle on her own [[SuccuWiki]]). And I noticed that whilst [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] was removed from being a Sysop a while back, she's still listed as an [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=interwiki interwiki] editor - should PC be removed from that list - she still makes contentious edits here (her last I had to revert)?! If you agree, maybe I can try out my new toys!!! Best --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:15, 30 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
: Please do both ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | : Please do both ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
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==[[:Category:Archived]]== | ==[[:Category:Archived]]== | ||
Are we wanting [[:Category:Archived]] to be an official new sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki Status]]? If so, it needs including into the {{ | Are we wanting [[:Category:Archived]] to be an official new sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki Status]]? If so, it needs including into the {{Template|WikiStatus}}, and the relevant Semantic Data form will need updating too, and also probably as a sub-cat of [[:Category:Dead]]. I actually think this is a good creation :PPPP | ||
: ''great idea and direction - will mull that over and try to make some edits, although I am still pretty scared if the SMW stuff :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'' | : ''great idea and direction - will mull that over and try to make some edits, although I am still pretty scared if the SMW stuff :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]'' | ||
:: I fixed both - the SMW stuff is fairly easy - see [[Property:Wiki status]]. Please review my updates :P [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:09, 30 April 2013 (PDT) | :: I fixed both - the SMW stuff is fairly easy - see [[Property:Wiki status]]. Please review my updates :P [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:09, 30 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
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Originally posted on [[User talk:Hoof Hearted#MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]: | Originally posted on [[User talk:Hoof Hearted#MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]: | ||
''Would you mind add another <nowiki><br></nowiki> after all the code of [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]? It looks really weird in the skins [ | ''Would you mind add another <nowiki><br></nowiki> after all the code of [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]? It looks really weird in the skins [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&useskin=modern modern] and [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&useskin=vector vector]. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 21:27, 30 April 2013 (PDT)'' | ||
--[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 12:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC) | --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 12:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC) | ||
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==Editsection inline== | ==Editsection inline== | ||
<s>How about having | <s>How about having {{Mw|Snippets/Editsection inline|editsection inline}} as a site js or a gadget like most wikimedia projects?</s>(The edit button mentioned below would not work if we have that) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 06:25, 24 June 2013 (UTC) PS. The edit button of the news section of [[WikiIndex:Community portal]] is now ''fully cool'', but I do prefer to have a <code><nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki></code>. | ||
: trying it... ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | : trying it... ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
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What's the meaning of your edit ([[Special:Permalink/171119]])? It doesn't make any sense to me. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | What's the meaning of your edit ([[Special:Permalink/171119]])? It doesn't make any sense to me. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 08:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
: It was a [ | : It was a [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&diff=171119&oldid=170777 test] to see if this image would show up on the sidebar. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==Received my email?== | ==Received my email?== | ||
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There's way too many message you can wordsmith/reword on. A list is available at [[Special:AllMessages]]. ([[Sean]] seems really good at rewording, he reworded several of my pages.) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 06:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | There's way too many message you can wordsmith/reword on. A list is available at [[Special:AllMessages]]. ([[Sean]] seems really good at rewording, he reworded several of my pages.) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 06:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
: I know, I have wordsmithed most of them on other wiki - I just see what comes through on [[RecentChanges]]. :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | : I know, I have wordsmithed most of them on other wiki - I just see what comes through on [[Special:RecentChanges]]. :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==To complete translating and linking arabic equivalent== | ==To complete translating and linking arabic equivalent== | ||
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==logo hunting== | ==logo hunting== | ||
If you look closly at the source, you can find something like this: | If you look closly at the source, you can find something like this: | ||
<pre><!-- logo --> | |||
<div id="p-logo" role="banner"><a style="background-image: url(/images/e/ea/Logo.gif);" href="/wiki/Main page" title="whatever"></a></div> | |||
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and <code>/images/e/ea/Logo.gif</code> is the logo's URL. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:33, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | and <code>/images/e/ea/Logo.gif</code> is the logo's URL. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:33, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
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==Canonical interwiki prefixes, II== | ==Canonical interwiki prefixes, II== | ||
Hi Mark, I can write | Hi Mark, I can write {{Mw|Canonical interwiki prefixes/Proposed extension|an extension}} to help distribute a list of {{Mw|canonical interwiki prefixes}}. The way it will work is that there will be a {{Mw|Manual:Tag extensions|parser extension tag}} or {{Mw|Manual:Parser functions|parser function hook}}, e.g.: | ||
<nowiki><interwiki_prefix prefix="nathaniawiki" url="http://nathania.org/wiki/$1" apiurl="http://nathania.org/w/api.php"/></nowiki> | <nowiki><interwiki_prefix prefix="nathaniawiki" url="http://nathania.org/wiki/$1" apiurl="http://nathania.org/w/api.php"/></nowiki> | ||
or: | or: | ||
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When the user | When the user {{Mw|Manual:Hooks/ArticleSaveComplete|saves the page}}, the extension will update the {{Mw|Manual:Interwiki table|interwiki table}}. The API will allow other websites to query to get either the entire table or the most recent updates to it. That way, other wikis can keep their own interwiki tables in sync with WikiIndex's. | ||
Does this all make sense? Really, it would be sort of like | Does this all make sense? Really, it would be sort of like {{Mw|Extension:InterWikiLinkManager/Example}} except that the interwiki links would be managed from all of the different wiki pages rather than from one central page. In the event of conflicts, i.e. two wiki pages with the same interwiki prefix, the one added first would get priority. | ||
As with any extension, this will involve some troubleshooting and at least several versions to get all the bugs out and make the extension do everything we want it to do. So, ideally I would have access to FTP, phpMyAdmin and the shell. Alternatively, I would at least need someone with such access to make requested upgrades to the extension code in a timely manner. If that's not possible, then this probably isn't practicable. What do you think? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 01:40, 15 October 2013 (UTC) | As with any extension, this will involve some troubleshooting and at least several versions to get all the bugs out and make the extension do everything we want it to do. So, ideally I would have access to FTP, phpMyAdmin and the shell. Alternatively, I would at least need someone with such access to make requested upgrades to the extension code in a timely manner. If that's not possible, then this probably isn't practicable. What do you think? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 01:40, 15 October 2013 (UTC) | ||
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'''Userfied here [[User:MarkDilley/Reddit]]''' I deleted then undeleted and moved this page. Reddit allows subreddits, each of which can have its own wiki which is heavily modded/skinned [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]], as I recall. I'm now sure what you want to do about this: are you planning on having articles on thousands of subreddit wikis? Or maybe just one article talking about how wikis work on reddit? (The latter seems feasible and useful, the former completely insane). I was quick to delete but when I realized that you had done it, I thought, "Oh, he's probably doing something here that's smarter than I realize..." [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 08:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC) | '''Userfied here [[User:MarkDilley/Reddit]]''' I deleted then undeleted and moved this page. Reddit allows subreddits, each of which can have its own wiki which is heavily modded/skinned [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]], as I recall. I'm now sure what you want to do about this: are you planning on having articles on thousands of subreddit wikis? Or maybe just one article talking about how wikis work on reddit? (The latter seems feasible and useful, the former completely insane). I was quick to delete but when I realized that you had done it, I thought, "Oh, he's probably doing something here that's smarter than I realize..." [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 08:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC) | ||
: | : I think the idea you bring up is the best, one wiki page for [[reddit]]. I suppose if there is an important subreddit it could be added, maybe something like <nowiki>[[reddit/subreddit]]</nowiki>. What do you think? ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
::'''Sure''' That sounds reasonable. I've never seen any subreddit wikis that have much in the way of traffic or activity but it's hardly impossible. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 19:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC) | ::'''Sure''' That sounds reasonable. I've never seen any subreddit wikis that have much in the way of traffic or activity but it's hardly impossible. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 19:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC) | ||
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Hi Mark, and Happy New Year to you. :) | Hi Mark, and Happy New Year to you. :) | ||
I've just noticed that [[Special:ReplaceText]] appears to have vanished from [[Special:Version|our installation]]. I'm guessing this happened during the MW software upgrade last year. Checking on the | I've just noticed that [[Special:ReplaceText]] appears to have vanished from [[Special:Version|our installation]]. I'm guessing this happened during the MW software upgrade last year. Checking on the {{Mw|Extension:Replace Text|MediaWiki.org page}}, it states that the Extension:Replace Text can be added as either a stand-alone add-on, or is available within the {{Mw|Semantic Bundle}} (which we do have - Version 1.8.0.4). Can you please re-instate this? | ||
And can I also make an additional request regarding our [[Special:ListGroupRights|user group rights]]. I noticed we now have a new group called ''''autoconfirmed users'''' – can I propose two new custom user groups; the first called ''''autopatrolled users'''', where members will "Have one's own edits automatically marked as patrolled". At the moment, this right is only granted to [[sysop]]s. I suggest that 'autopatrolled users' be granted to existing trusted members of WikiIndex who are not sysops. The second new user group could be called ''''spam fighter'''', and this group would again be for trusted users who have an interest in helping managing spam (such as [[YiFei]]). The rights of the 'spam fighter' group would include global access to the abuse filters, such as <tt>(abusefilter-modify)</tt>, <tt>(abusefilter-modify-restricted)</tt>, <tt>(abusefilter-revert)</tt> and <tt>(abusefilter-private)</tt>. | And can I also make an additional request regarding our [[Special:ListGroupRights|user group rights]]. I noticed we now have a new group called ''''autoconfirmed users'''' – can I propose two new custom user groups; the first called ''''autopatrolled users'''', where members will "Have one's own edits automatically marked as patrolled". At the moment, this right is only granted to [[sysop]]s. I suggest that 'autopatrolled users' be granted to existing trusted members of WikiIndex who are not sysops. The second new user group could be called ''''spam fighter'''', and this group would again be for trusted users who have an interest in helping managing spam (such as [[YiFei]]). The rights of the 'spam fighter' group would include global access to the abuse filters, such as <tt>(abusefilter-modify)</tt>, <tt>(abusefilter-modify-restricted)</tt>, <tt>(abusefilter-revert)</tt> and <tt>(abusefilter-private)</tt>. | ||
Can you please consider these, and arrange their implementation? Best regards [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC) | Can you please consider these, and arrange their implementation? Best regards [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
:I hope I can | :I hope I can {{Wp|WP:AGF}} about what you are trying to do here. Of course, {{support}} autopatrolled. But "spam fighter" => weird name imo. Also fighting spams should include delete and block rights (such as for [[User:ABIDEEN0]]). --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 14:00, 2 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
::[[YiFei]] - I absolutely and categorically do and will [[AssumeGoodFaith]], to you and all our other constructive editors. And I'm genuinely sorry that we have 'crossed swords' recently. I enjoy your energy, and on the whole value your contributions here. :-))))))) Oh, and a very Happy New Year to you! <hugs> | ::[[YiFei]] - I absolutely and categorically do and will [[AssumeGoodFaith]], to you and all our other constructive editors. And I'm genuinely sorry that we have 'crossed swords' recently. I enjoy your energy, and on the whole value your contributions here. :-))))))) Oh, and a very Happy New Year to you! <hugs> | ||
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Today I saw that there is a new(?) [https://WikiIndex.org/favicon.ico favicon]. It's nice :) | Today I saw that there is a new(?) [https://WikiIndex.org/favicon.ico favicon]. It's nice :) | ||
* Who made it? | * Who made it? | ||
* Is there a ref copy in the [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special | * Is there a ref copy in the [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&from=&to=&namespace=6 File namespace]? | ||
Best [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 12:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | Best [[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 12:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
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==This should clean out the spam accounts== | ==This should clean out the spam accounts== | ||
{{Mw|Manual:RemoveUnusedAccounts.php|This MediaWiki user script}} should clean out most if not all of our current spam accounts. Someone with shell access needs to run it, but it's easy to do. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 01:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:This sounds great! Is it something you can do? Or how do we plan to get it done? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | :This sounds great! Is it something you can do? Or how do we plan to get it done? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
::Hi Mark. I hope all is well with you and yours. If you need someone, I can run RemoveUnusedAccounts since I have root access on the server that hosts | ::Hi Mark. I hope all is well with you and yours. If you need someone, I can run RemoveUnusedAccounts since I have root access on the server that hosts WikiIndex. Are you guys using the {{Mw|Extension:Nuke}} that is already installed on this wiki? It's a good way to delete all the pages that the spammers have created. Warm Regards, [[BrandonCsSanders]] | ||
:::HI Brandon, that would be great. I don't think we have had an issue in spam page creation in a while, so not have used Nuke ever. Nice to see you. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | :::HI Brandon, that would be great. I don't think we have had an issue in spam page creation in a while, so not have used Nuke ever. Nice to see you. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
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==eMail function on WikiIndex still not working?== | ==eMail function on WikiIndex still not working?== | ||
Dear Mark, I'm fine ;-) But WikiIndex seems not to be since long. I had quite some trouble to get an account here. Two admins where needed to get it to work. And the function for eMail verification seams to be never installed. Now, this is not sooo much my home, wikiwise | Dear Mark, I'm fine ;-) But WikiIndex seems not to be since long. I had quite some trouble to get an account here. Two admins where needed to get it to work. And the function for eMail verification seams to be never installed. Now, this is not sooo much my home, wikiwise {{Wp|de:Benutzer:Manorainjan}} is my home. Now I'm rather active here, in order to get warm with the system, clean up stuff I'm interested in and do some adding of wikis. But then I would come less often. I would not notice any stuff on my talk page. Also most basic pages are not set, like the TOS-page one "has" to read and accept during registration of account. This is not funny any more. | ||
So, why is the eMail functionality not working?--[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:02, 29 July 2014 (UTC) | So, why is the eMail functionality not working?--[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:02, 29 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
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: could you link directly to the [[diff]] of the edit(s) you are speaking of? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | : could you link directly to the [[diff]] of the edit(s) you are speaking of? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
:: I can't imagine I did this one: | :: I can't imagine I did this one: https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Anansi-Web_Wiki&diff=next&oldid=179427 | ||
:: I never ever paste '{{Inactive |' in the first line and remove all my stuff put in the last edit. I was trying to just the opposite. Is it possible that this happens when two users edit at the same entry?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:56, 6 August 2014 (UTC) | :: I never ever paste '{{Inactive |' in the first line and remove all my stuff put in the last edit. I was trying to just the opposite. Is it possible that this happens when two users edit at the same entry?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:56, 6 August 2014 (UTC) | ||
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: What I can see from the history is, that the suspect called MarvelZuvembie, a notorious inactivator, was sneaking around there and did one edit only 8 minutes after my last one. ;-)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:25, 6 August 2014 (UTC) | : What I can see from the history is, that the suspect called MarvelZuvembie, a notorious inactivator, was sneaking around there and did one edit only 8 minutes after my last one. ;-)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 19:25, 6 August 2014 (UTC) | ||
: Community member {{u|MarvelZuvembie}} made and edit, but I don't see that it was to put the inactive template in [ | : Community member {{u|MarvelZuvembie}} made and edit, but I don't see that it was to put the inactive template in [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Anansi-Web_Wiki&diff=179436&oldid=179431] :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
==Preistreiberei== | ==Preistreiberei== | ||