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:I've updated [[WikiIndex:Creating New Articles]]. I personally don't think we should set an arbitary character limit -- if a wiki has an 'interesting' history which could support a lengthy prose, then by all means include it. Obviously, any unnecessary waffle, if found, can be trimmed. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:16, 6 May 2014 (UTC) | :I've updated [[WikiIndex:Creating New Articles]]. I personally don't think we should set an arbitary character limit -- if a wiki has an 'interesting' history which could support a lengthy prose, then by all means include it. Obviously, any unnecessary waffle, if found, can be trimmed. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:16, 6 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
==To what extent is WikiIndex intended to serve as a | ==To what extent is WikiIndex intended to serve as a 'meatball wiki'== | ||
[[WikiIndex:Creating New Articles]] says, "Most of the articles created in this [[WikiIndex]] wiki will be about other individual [[wiki]]s. Please refer to [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]] for further information. Other very limited topics are also appropriate, about [[:Category:Wiki People|wiki people]], wiki terms, [[:Category:WikiIdea|wiki ideas]], and how to use this wiki. Please be restrained in adding such peripheral material." | [[WikiIndex:Creating New Articles]] says, "Most of the articles created in this [[WikiIndex]] wiki will be about other individual [[wiki]]s. Please refer to [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]] for further information. Other very limited topics are also appropriate, about [[:Category:Wiki People|wiki people]], wiki terms, [[:Category:WikiIdea|wiki ideas]], and how to use this wiki. Please be restrained in adding such peripheral material." | ||
I notice that we don't actually have a lot of pages in [[:Category:WikiConcept]] and [[:Category:WikiIdea]]. To what extent is it actually encouraged to add these kinds of pages? There's a lot that one could write about wiki-philosophy, wiki norms, etc. However, I don't want to do it if it'll be frowned upon. A | I notice that we don't actually have a lot of pages in [[:Category:WikiConcept]] and [[:Category:WikiIdea]]. To what extent is it actually encouraged to add these kinds of pages? There's a lot that one could write about wiki-philosophy, wiki norms, etc. However, I don't want to do it if it'll be frowned upon. A 'meatball wiki' is basically one that "describes the general tendencies observed on wikis and other on-line communities; for example the life cycles of wikis, and people's behavior on them." To what extent are you cool with hosting that kind of content? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 07:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
:If clear standards are developed, I could assist in applying them. The problem with hosting deeper content, opinion, judgments, etc., is that it can rapidly spin out into massive debate. It can be done, but it takes protective structure. As an example of how we were able, on [[:Category:Wikiversity|Wikiversity]], to handle what could have become a massive content dispute, see [https://En.Wikiversity.org/wiki/Landmark_Education]. The overall presentation is neutral, and anything controversial or possibly controversial is on attributed subpages, with explicit attribution, not merely attribution through history. It can help, somewhat, if editors engaging in this are not anonymous. Anonymity fuels and enables seriously antisocial behavior. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 14:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | :If clear standards are developed, I could assist in applying them. The problem with hosting deeper content, opinion, judgments, etc., is that it can rapidly spin out into massive debate. It can be done, but it takes protective structure. As an example of how we were able, on [[:Category:Wikiversity|Wikiversity]], to handle what could have become a massive content dispute, see [https://En.Wikiversity.org/wiki/Landmark_Education]. The overall presentation is neutral, and anything controversial or possibly controversial is on attributed subpages, with explicit attribution, not merely attribution through history. It can help, somewhat, if editors engaging in this are not anonymous. Anonymity fuels and enables seriously antisocial behavior. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 14:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
::[[Anonymity]] also enables free speech (by reducing the potential for real-world consequences) and discourages ad hominem attacks (by making it harder to link an on-wiki identity to a user's off-wiki affiliations, interests, etc. and use that information to accuse him of conflicts of interests with regard to his on-wiki contributions). It also can enable users to get a fresh start, which is sometimes good and sometimes bad. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 20:57, 6 May 2014 (UTC) | ::[[Anonymity]] also enables free speech (by reducing the potential for real-world consequences) and discourages ad hominem attacks (by making it harder to link an on-wiki identity to a user's off-wiki affiliations, interests, etc. and use that information to accuse him of conflicts of interests with regard to his on-wiki contributions). It also can enable users to get a fresh start, which is sometimes good and sometimes bad. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 20:57, 6 May 2014 (UTC) | ||