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:Perhaps you have read something by Proxima, DavidCary, or Dilley, that I have not. I will believe what I read for myself, not your claims or interpretations of them. I don't really understand your point there anyway. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:03, 2 October 2009 (EDT) | :Perhaps you have read something by Proxima, DavidCary, or Dilley, that I have not. I will believe what I read for myself, not your claims or interpretations of them. I don't really understand your point there anyway. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:03, 2 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
:Thank you for tolerating me while it seems we have very different ideals and perceptions on these matters. I'm also grateful that you unprotected the blank RationalWiki article and that Dilley allowed you to do that. I kinda feel bad that my long posts offend you but it is difficult for me to imagine a "legitimate" reason for this. I don't see why certain editors here feel they ''have to'' read my posts. Afraid I'll say something I shouldn't be allowed to? What is more dominating, writing or patroling edits? But I don't exactly question your right to "rule" here. I wish I could stay within limits that you would consider polite, not just tolerable. But I must admit that I really prefer to post a lot in spite of this, and you have made many accusations and claims that I would like to defend myself from. But my feeling toward you is gratitude that in spite of how you perceive me, you seem to be allowing me free speech. I appreciate and respect that very much. I'm not sure where this will lead us, but for what it is worth anyway. (By the way, I managed to cut out about half of what I wrote before we spoke at IRC. For others looking for this chatroom: at the IRC command line type "/server irc.freenode.net", then "/join #wikiindex".) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:03, 2 October 2009 (EDT) | :Thank you for tolerating me while it seems we have very different ideals and perceptions on these matters. I'm also grateful that you unprotected the blank RationalWiki article and that Dilley allowed you to do that. I kinda feel bad that my long posts offend you but it is difficult for me to imagine a "legitimate" reason for this. I don't see why certain editors here feel they ''have to'' read my posts. Afraid I'll say something I shouldn't be allowed to? What is more dominating, writing or patroling edits? But I don't exactly question your right to "rule" here. I wish I could stay within limits that you would consider polite, not just tolerable. But I must admit that I really prefer to post a lot in spite of this, and you have made many accusations and claims that I would like to defend myself from. But my feeling toward you is gratitude that in spite of how you perceive me, you seem to be allowing me free speech. I appreciate and respect that very much. I'm not sure where this will lead us, but for what it is worth anyway. (By the way, I managed to cut out about half of what I wrote before we spoke at IRC. For others looking for this chatroom: at the IRC command line type "/server irc.freenode.net", then "/join #wikiindex".) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 05:03, 2 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
::You "only have one shot at this"? That seems overly dramatic. This is wiki, which means you have several shots at this. Even if a page gets protected "indefinitely", chances are that someone will come along and unlock at some point in the future. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:23, 2 October 2009 (EDT) |