WikiIndex talk:Real names: Difference between revisions

* There are three ways to participate on a wiki:

* There are three ways to be identified when editing a wiki:

: Semanitics, maybe?  I can either read or edit.  Those are the two ways to participate, methinks.  If I want to read, I don't need to identify myself at all.  If I want to edit, that's when this RealNames page comes into play, yes? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 21:28, 5 Mar 2006 (EST)

:''Maybe it is sematics.  I can read this wiki or I can participate at this wiki by editing. (is reading particiaption?)  If I want to read, I don't need to identify myself at all.  (except there is some identification in the logging of IP addresses)  If I want to participate in the wiki, that's when RealNames comes into play.''  

::: IP addresses are logged on every website, in some way.  I know I don't have access to the logs for WikiIndex.  Do you?  Yet when someone edits, that information is public, available to all.  So back to the word "participate."  If someone comes here from Buffy and the Goblet of Fire wiki and edits our entry for that wiki, is that participation?  It might be, if there's some kind of dialogue on the talk page, but it also might not be.  It might just be a fly-by edit, fixing an error, adding value in whatever way.  I hear that you '''want''' people to participate, but not everyone that edits is participating, the way I see it.  And it's not the participation that triggers this choice of 3 you've presented on [[RealNames]], it's the editing.  I think.  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 22:43, 5 Mar 2006 (EST)

* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username Wikipedia]

 

 

:I came to the internet from using bulletin boards where almost nobody used their real names. Before that it was campus computer mainframes where user names often had limitations (the number of characters, etc.), so most of those were not real names either. On the internet, my real name is completely meaningless because you can not find any version of that name that refers to me. On the other hand, my user name, [[User:BlankVerse|BlankVerse]], has a track record that you can easily see by visiting my [[wikipedia:user:BlankVerse|user page]] at the English-language Wikipedia. For all of my poetry and artwork, I use a different haigo (haiku penname), which is a longstanding tradition for Japanese poets.  

:One problem you may experience if you do require real names from participants is that people may just lie about their real names. Without any verification process like the real names feature for reviewers at amazon.com, you will never know. Mis dos centavos [[User:BlankVerse|BlankVerse]] 03:49, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)

:: Mark, I'm a bit confused.  Are you saying you don't want to work here if RealNames isn't the standard?  Does this mean you want us to have a guideline that people unwilling to use their RealNames should not log in at all? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:27, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)

:: BlankVerse, I'm not sure what you're saying here either.  You seem to be arguing the question of RealNames vs PseudoNyms.  If we are clear that RealNames are strongly prefered here, could you please address the difference between logging in with a PseudoNym and not logging in at all?  Thanks! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:27, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)

:::I think that the policy of the Wikipedia would be best to follow. It is not pro-RealNames, as described above, but the policy is pretty agnostic on the issue of editing by real names vs. pseudonyms vs. anon IPs. To be a regular participant you almost need to have watchlists and the other benefits of having a user account. If the WikiIndex required RealNames, I probably wouldn't become a regular participant. [[YourName]] | <small>[[User talk:LoginName|talk]]</small> 14:06, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)