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Who is responsible now?[edit]

2006 was the last time Ray did an edit here.

ok, 2014 now Raymond King | talk

I do not see any note that someone took over.--Manorainjan (talk) 11:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

aditional categories[edit]

Mark's calling these folksonomy categories. Is their use written down anywhere? I don't see the need to make them display on the page since they display when viewing the article anyway. Maybe this needs documentation? TedErnst 17:18, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)

Yes, that's exactly what I'd suggest. They show up in the footer in the default skin. Otherwise, maybe we ought to have a Template:MoreCat that will give you the display text you're looking for, rather than having to remember the codes all the time. I don't know. What's the purpose of having it show up twice? TedErnst 17:26, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)

You deleted altorgwiki for inappropriate content... what does that mean? MarkDilley

re: tags[edit]

Looks great! TedErnst | talk 11:16, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)

I don't know much about templates, except from messing with them. I know John had a problem with formatting which is why he added bullets to the tag template originally. I'm not sure what else to say about it, actually. TedErnst | talk 12:21, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)



Re: Template question[edit]

Seem ok to me check out Notebook

Unable to solve the problem seems best not to use templates in-line with text.

Thanks Raymond[edit]

Hi Raymond, thanks for helping out with the categories on the PattayaWiki entry I initiated. I am new to Wikis and wasn't quite sure how to place it. I initially created loads of category tags which I now realize was a mistake, Harry Wood cleared them up and I have also written to him via his User Talk page.

The main guy behind the Pattaya Wiki is Pete who has been running the forum for about a decade - it's an excellent forum with a lot of knowledgeable regulars. I suggested a wiki because I noticed how a lot of excellent contributions were submerging over time and the same questions were being asked again and again; veteran users were becoming antagonistic towards newbies who apparently didn't know how to use the search feature. I had never run a wiki but am a heavy Wikipedia user and am convinced that, if we can dig out all the wisdom that has been shared over the years in forum and refashion it for the wiki, it will be an extremely useful resource.

I believe that the subject matter is legitimate and, as more and more people relocate or retire to Thailand, it is important that they be informed not only of the highlights but also the pitfalls. Donny 15:03, 8 Feb 2006 (EST)

Bonjour Raymond - catégorie aide LangueFrançaise[edit]

Hi raymond. Just discovering via translation main features I ignored. So let's create a category:aide which could *really help* our french fellow wikistes ! [[User:ChristopheDucamp|Christophe Ducamp | User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] 21:12, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)

Ok, I'll follow your lead on this. Is there anything you need me to do? --Raymond King | talk 22:15, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)

Thanks. For the moment that seems ok. Will have just to build bridges on the Portail Communauté. For the moment, I'll try to synchronize and learn more about the software used here -- Christophe Ducamp | talk 22:29, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)

C'est bon. Vous avez vraiment ajouté une grande dimension à l'emplacement :-) --Raymond King | talk 22:31, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)

Raymond about the advertising I completely agree even if you could make a poll as [I saw here]. On my own, I think contextual advertising, (I mean in french) could help too bring some new contents. Let's say I agree on advertising. On CraoWiki, we've chosen to reserve it only for lurkers. That's to say, if people are logged no advertising. I like this idea ;-) Christophe Ducamp | talk 04:50, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the thoughts, I'm going to circle around with the other major contributors and get a consensus. I think Mark and John pretty much feel the same way. --Raymond King | talk 13:20, 11 Feb 2006 (EST)

Bonjour. Woaaaa. Really impressed with your visual language dropped on Image:WikiIndexMap.jpg. Very clear and concise. How about translating them ? Could you drop any source file (svg, ai, ...). Think we could adapt in french. Very helpful to understand the architecture. Christophe Ducamp | talk 16:09, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)

Mon Français est des pauvres, me satisfait ainsi correct où nécessaire. En outre, j'ai laissé les catégories en anglais parce que je ne pense pas que nous voulons des reproductions (les "English" et "Anglais"). Que pensez-vous ? --Raymond King | talk 17:09, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)

I agree (for the moment !) not to duplicate categories/tags. It could be a real mess. May be we could translate them further ? Let's say for the moment, keep it simple, ... But my suggestions would be, your first translation should be reworked... How ?

  • we could design a table (even if it seems complicated with the syntax here...)
English French
english paragraph french translation

etc. And everybody could complete. ... But from my experience, it's heavy. The best we have tested on CommunityWiki is just to drop diagram in a CategoryDiagram[1]. People provide the sources and we translate the diagram. You will find an example on DossierDiagramme[2]. It works, it's a wikiway to make people cooperate, redesign on any visual if we could use some standards like SVG. Pehraps we could talk in the future of a svgwiki ?  ;) Christophe Ducamp | talk 19:13, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)

I'm not sure I understand how that would work, but I just purchased the tool I need to convert the diagram to SVG format. It should be here in a few days :-) Let's give it a try then. --Raymond King | talk 19:55, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)

edit mode[edit]

Could you please weigh in at Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode? I'm getting antsy to make some decisions on these. Thanks! TedErnst | talk 17:04, 22 Feb 2006 (EST)

OK, sorry for the delay, was in Seattle for last 2 days...--Raymond King | talk 21:40, 22 Feb 2006 (EST)

No worries. My impatience is no one's issue but mine. :-) TedErnst | talk 23:38, 22 Feb 2006 (EST)

Wiki Gnomes - Wiki Kiwi[edit]

Great idea by you and BrandonCsSanders!! -->

Wiki node future linking question[edit]

Asked John this: I am toying with the mark-up for wikinodes that are not there and TedErnst asked me a good question. Can we currently sort on a no for URL_wikinode? Meaning if we do what I am thinking about (e.g. The league of scarybirds with the - WikiNode) does that damage being able to find those? Best, MarkDilley | talk

That's a really good idea, but I'm just not sure of the implementation given that we'd normally categorize that field and if we did so, then we'd have tons of category entries for the articles that in fact have wikinodes. It would seem that there should be some solution tho. --Raymond King | talk 20:57, 25 Feb 2006 (EST)


Sorry :-( - didn't understand the reply. FutureLink is usually for internal wiki actions. But FutureLinking the web is cool! Like WikiBardo. (moving this stuff to proposals.) MarkDilley | talk

ok, you are anal![edit]

I just asked the person at the DARnet wiki to come make his presentation - his. :-) Will look even better when he shows up. 'cept you anal-ness didn't take into count that the page name is wrong! I will do that now :-) MarkDilley | talk

Doh! --Raymond King | talk 15:46, 26 Feb 2006 (EST)

wikis for review[edit]

Do we have a way to mark wikis for review? If not, remind me to create something, will you? In the meantime, take a look at GreenCheese, okay? comment going to both Mark and Ray -- TedErnst | talk 17:21, 10 Mar 2006 (EST)

irc no more?[edit]

Haven't seen you on IRC in ages. You okay? TedErnst | talk 23:29, 24 Apr 2006 (EDT)

yeah, so sorry, Domain Roundtable event last week and then I had to jump on a plane and I'm in New York now. Was sick as a dog yesterday...--Raymond King | talk 23:46, 24 Apr 2006 (EDT)

ICANN discussion at[edit]

Join us? TedErnst | talk 16:58, 28 Apr 2006 (EDT)

Thanks! TedErnst | talk 10:24, 29 Apr 2006 (EDT)

re wikinoding[edit]

it's the same one I posted previously at project wikinoding - used at chicago something arts wiki TedErnst | talk 16:31, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

re: MediaWiki:Name[edit]

Well, when you sign up here, you're asked for a Username. It's no wonder people don't put their real names. What I'm trying for is that people are ased for their Name. It doesn't have to say RealName, because your name is your name. At least that's what I'm trying for. I don't actually know if I've suceeded. TedErnst | talk 18:25, 13 May 2006 (EDT)

Ted, thanks, I really think I am understanding you more clearly. Best, MarkDilley

Could you both please log out and see if this is working? Also, when you're logged in, check your preferences to see how that screen looks. THanks! TedErnst | talk 20:27, 13 May 2006 (EDT)


please weigh in - please confirm John's call on consensus or weigh in with whatever other work we still need to do - thanks! TedErnst | talk 16:53, 22 June 2006 (EDT)

you're back?[edit]

how was the trip?

Trip was great, i should post some pics, i took a whole bunch. After ICANN Marrakesh, we spent a week traveling in the desert and it was awesome. eating my way out of a pile of mail and e-mail now...

wiki reputation system[edit]

Ray, it just occured to me that reverting spam and patrolling recent changes are both function you'll want to capture in your wiki reputation system. TedErnst | talk 12:53, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Ah, good point, thanks. I have someone here in portland just getting started on it. Will keep you posted --Raymond King | talk 15:44, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Ray, take a look at this diff. See how there was two single quotes at the start of ''11-Aug-2006: [[Scouting_wikis]] added these. Scouting wikis. for more info.''<br> and then the change shows those single quotes inside a cut and paste that Mark did?. This demonstrates what I was trying to get at when talking with you long ago about the difficulty of determining who did what. Are you writing a new diff engine or a new way to store pages or both? TedErnst | talk 11:01, 18 August 2006 (EDT)

yeah, that's difficult to deal with. Our current plan is to measure one thing at a time and right now it is just "added characters". "Deleted Characters" and other measurements to come when we have reasonable algorithms to calculate them. --Raymond King | talk 10:01, 19 August 2006 (EDT)

blog v weblog[edit]

Ray, just checking to see if you would mind terrible if I, at some point, moved your work on the BlogArchive to WeblogArchive. Best, MarkDilley

BTW, that is excellent work! :-)

Human Hub[edit]

Hi - I notice you created Human Hub. Thought I'd mention I'd marked it as inactive - couldn't find a live wiki on that site. --Singkong2005 07:15, 30 August 2006 (EDT)

yeah, bummer, thanks Raymond King | talk 14:04, 18 October 2006 (EDT)

check out this user[edit]

User:JenniferForUnity - see her contributions - awesome energy around the category system TedErnst | talk 15:58, 17 October 2006 (EDT)

yes, that's great, she's got some good thoughts on categorization. I'll leave her a note now Raymond King | talk 14:05, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
I'm happy but I'm blushing... Thanks for the compliments ^_^ - JenniferForUnity 22:54, 18 October 2006 (EDT)

visual wiki index[edit]

Hi Ray, please would you have a look on this: Proposal:Visual WikiIndex --Peu 17:17, 24 October 2006 (EDT)

I took a look but I'm not sure I fully understand the goal. Also, I see that Sean and Ted responded, is there anything else should review? --Raymond King | talk 17:02, 25 October 2006 (EDT)


PeterCraig asked on his talk page about caricatures.

I'll try to get a small together and I'll have Rhoda do them --Raymond King | talk 09:42, 27 October 2006 (EDT)


I noticed that you own Would you be interested in selling it to me?

You can email me at cybiko123 [ a t ] mailcan d o t com.


Hi Ray,

There's a new template:sysop that can be used to tag users, which are currently active sysops. I think this will be good, because only sysops have the right to bluck/unblock and if someone feels blocked he needs help. --Wolf | talk 06:44, 13 October 2007 (EDT)


Hi. I'm asked MarkDilly. Can the KUW (A Club about Wikis) make a German Version of this Wiki on Wikia? Thank you! Gruß, BobaCartman 12:27, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Hosting change[edit]

Where will we move to? BTW: will this include an MediaWiki upgrade to 1.15.5? Best regards --Wolf | talk 06:05, 23 August 2010 (EDT)

I apologise for my error[edit]

Sorry Raymond, I messed up on blocking a spammer and blocked you for about 2 minutes until I fixed it. I deeply apologise for my mistake. I will be more careful I promise. TeraS 05:35, 30 March 2011 (PDT)

Upgrade and logo stuff - open to all[edit]

Please check out WikiIndex:New logo decision and WikiIndex:Spring 2011 Upgrade Path, Best, MarkDilley 26 April 2011

Picture what for?[edit]

AELLogo.jpg did any Wiki exist, was it a logo? Manorainjan (talk) AOLServerLogo.png 15:38, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Could this AboutUsLogo.jpg be the beta logo of AboutUs? Manorainjan (talk) 21:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

yes that is a beta logo for AboutUs. ~~ MarkDilley


This TLD has become available. Did You register any domain under such a TLD? Manorainjan (talk) 00:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

I think that a server change is already "complicated" enough for this wiki and its users. I do not think it should be made more complex or complicated by opening the discussion about the new name at the same time. I prefer to get a new name ending on .wiki, but I would not like to complicate the situation, because from my experience with this wiki and its community, this will most likely lead to one of those so called "endless discussions". If one would like to get anything done, one has to keep it as simple as possible in order to get any kind of result within a reasonable time here. Therefore I request You to "keep it simple". Please also take into consideration, that a change of name inevitably rises a new-logo debate which obviously would become even more emotional than a "simple" name discussion! I would strongly prefer to avoid such a three-tire discussion right now (move-name-logo). Move is complex enough, really. It includes extensions and backup and cleaning the user list. The later is already very difficult to solve. Manorainjan (talk) 16:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Weigh in on WikiIndex:Proposal: domain name change#Poll?[edit]

I wanted to be sure to draw your attention to a potential decision to change the domain of this wiki. I hope you'll weigh in with your opinion. Thanks! BrandonCsSanders (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


I think the translate extension would be useful on this wiki. 06:57, 25 October 2016 (PDT)


Hello, may I ask why, except of you, the Wiki.Wiki staff (along with BrandonCSSanders and Jason) are not active anymore? I see that for now you don't allow the creation of new wikis there, but will they be available in the future? Thank you and best regards, --TheTVFan (talk) 10:09, 28 January 2017 (PST)

Some questions for you[edit]

Hello Ray! I have some questions for you:

- what's your official account? Rathbone or Ray King? I noticed that they are both in the staff group.
- what happened with Wiki.Wiki? Why was it closed?
- did Wiki.Wiki staff members like Brandon and Jason leave also WikiIndex?

--Itallyano (talk) 02:58, 14 December 2017 (PST)

I've pretty much been using Rathbone. We had to close as it was a lot of work and we didn't have a clear path to sustainability. I don't think those guys are active on WikiIndex. Raymond King | talk 12:07, 3 January 2018 (PST)

Itallyano won't get Your answer. That account was blocked indefinitely in 15 December 2017 because it was a sock-puppet of the blocked account User:TheTVFan etc. --Manorainjan 15:36, 3 January 2018 (PST)
ok thx, I'm not going to sweat it then Raymond King | talk

Abuse filter 12 blocking sign-up for Jordan D[edit]

Hi Ray, hope you are well.

I have been looking through the Abuse filter log and noticed a trigger alert of 25 August 2018 disallowing the creation of a username (and therefore account) by Jordan D that contained the word 'Jordan'. Knowing that is an acceptable christian name / given name and/or surname, I amended Abuse filter 12 to effectively allow 'Jordan' to create an account contaning said username. Further down the abuse filter log, I also noticed that both Mark Dilley and yourself tried to manually create a user account for the same Jordan D on 15 July 2018, but without success. Now that I have amended offending abuse filter, if either yourself or Mark still have contact details for Jordan D, maybe you (or Ray) can try again to create his account.

I shall copy the above to User talk:MarkDilley, just in case Mark has more time or still has the contact details of Jordan D. Miss your input here, hope you can find time to actively return. All the best. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 07:12, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Domain redirection from to .org[edit]

Hi, Ray! Many old Fandom (Wikia) sites still have [[wikiindex:]] interwiki link set to$1. For examples, see cities.fandom (a.k.a. Cities Wiki), list.fandom (WikiLists) and the Star Trek wiki, memory-alpha.fandom (Memory Alpha).

The problem is, or any URL to dot-com with any subpage just redirects to the homepage ( Thoughts on fixing how that domain redirection is set up? Cooperating with Fandom doesn't really work since they're generally hostile to linking to outside wikis, so the ball is on our court to take advantage of already existing interwikis from a simpler time. —AStranger195 (talk) 11:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)