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Requerimos saber ¿como hacer para que mi wiki : pueda tener implementada la caja de creación de artículos? debido a que hemos tratado de crearle una propia, inclusive copiandola de otros wiki-sitios y no lo hemos conseguido.

We need to know: as doing so that my wiki: could have implemented the box of creation of articles? because we have tried to create the proper one to him, inclusive copying it of other wiki-places and have not obtained it. --Wicodatos Colombia 17:55, 21 June 2006 (EDT)

My translation: Wicodatos would like the add box for their wiki, but they don't know how to do it. :-) TedErnst | talk 01:33, 22 June 2006 (EDT)
This is a MediaWiki extension, see Extension:InputBox --John 14:05, 4 July 2006 (EDT)


hi John, Wiki Specification Request 3 (WSR 3) is becoming active. see -- Max

future wiki-nodes[edit]

Hello John, I am toying with the mark-up for wikinodes that are not there and TedErnst asked me a good question. Can we currently sort on a no for URL wikinode? Meaning if we do what I am thinking about (e.g. Scarybirds wiki with the - WikiNode) does that damage being able to find those? Best, MarkDilley | talk

More potential[edit]

This wiki is great, but I honestly believe if it turned into a wiki of websites, instead of just wikis, it could be all that better. You already would have a good start on other wikis attempting this, as you already have users and info about lots of wikis. --Elliot Goodrich (not a member here) 16:37, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

Funny you should mention that because within a week or so our sister wiki, will launch with that exact concept pre loaded with 2 million+ web sites. Keep checking it. John 16:48, 19 June 2006 (EDT)


Hi John, please see this conversation: WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Sitemap. Best MarkDilley

MediaWiki talk:MyNavMenu[edit]

Mind taking a minute to look in there? — User:Sean Fennel@ 16:51, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

upgrading MediaWiki[edit]

Why do we work with MediaWiki 1.6.5 what is the upgrade policy? --Peu 03:09, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

The MediaWiki quarterly update policy is a bit too frequent so we try to update every 6 months or so. The 1.8.x version was just released at the beginning of October and we wait till most of the bugs in a release are fixed (probably about 1.8.5, they are on 1.8.2 already) before we start to plan an upgrade. We should be on 1.8.5 before the first of next year. John 11:36, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
I see. In our company, we update closer to MediaWiki and live quite good with it (of course it's a closed wiki). What about updating to 1.6.8? --Peu 13:09, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
We try to stay with what works unless we have a problem. Every new release brings some incompatibilities that we have to work thru and generates a lot of work. If we had only one wiki and no other interests it might be possible but there are over 40 wikis that we manage on this one server and it is quite impossible to update all of them 8 times a quarter. Just as an example, this next upgrade will require changing everything to PHP5 and will break our current "pretty url" scheme, we know how to change to PHP5 but have not yet figured out what broke the "pretty url" scheme and we cannot upgrade until we solve that problem. John 13:34, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
Oh, I did not know about it. --Peu 15:47, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

error message I've never seen before[edit]

John, while patrolling recent changes, I came across this, which displays this error:

The database did not find the text of a page that it should have
found, named "Category:Asia (Diff: 32701, 32801)".

This is usually caused by following an outdated diff or history
link to a page that has been deleted.

If this is not the case, you may have found a bug in the software.
Please report this to an administrator, making note of the URL.

Strange, no? TedErnst | talk 14:49, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

Very strange! I'll check further... John 15:28, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

I got another one with the same error as above. TedErnst | talk 03:45, 27 February 2007 (PST)

Here's another new one from Recent Changes:

The requested page title was invalid, empty, or an incorrectly 
linked inter-language or inter-wiki title. It may contain one more 
characters which cannot be used in titles.

I think I understand what is going on.

I get the "did not find the text of a page that it should have" message a lot on another MediaWiki wiki I edit.

This happens when:

  1. I obsessively check "Recent changes". I either leave that page open for hours, or I click on some "diff" or "history" link and leave *that* page open for hours.
  2. Meanwhile, some sysop (often myself) discovers that a spammer has created a new page (not merely added spam to a pre-existing page), so that sysop deletes the page and all its history (not merely edit the page and blank all the spam). Then
  3. I eventually return to that "Recent changes" page I had left open, and I click on the "history" or "diff" link for the deleted page. Or, I eventually return to the "diff" or "history" page that has long been deleted, and I hit "refresh" or click the "history" tab at the top.

Since that page has been deleted, there is no "diff" or "history" to show, so MediaWiki throws up that (perhaps poorly-worded) message. Does that explain what you are seeing, or do you suspect a more serious problem? --DavidCary 10:04, 28 November 2007 (EST)

spam blacklist[edit]

please see Talk:My spam blacklist. thanks! TedErnst | talk 09:29, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

thumbnail problem[edit]

this picture File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.jpg is black when shown in any category, it seems it cannot be scaled? --Peu 08:10, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Something wrong with the picture, I downloaded the original and converted it to a .png format File:Ruangchotvit ChinarutPicture.png and uploaded it and it works better but still not right John 12:46, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

.org / .com[edit]

Hello John!nnWhat are your thoughts on the possibility to make all of WikiIndex's links .org?

See you soon I hope, MarkDilley

Looks complicated, I'm having enough trouble just trying to figure out the rewrite rules for upgrading to 1.8 :-) When do you arrive??? John 12:41, 27 October 2006 (EDT)

ParserFunctions extension[edit]

Hi John, would you please have a look on the template wiki talk Template talk:Wiki/Archive 1#Why not one of the extensions? Dantman suggested to use this extension for WikiIndex; he has good experiences with it on Gaiapedia, and we have problems with our 'if-template' and the resulting text layout, that could not be worked around. Could we have these extensions too (in the next future)? (see also my posting and his answer on Gaiapedia) --Peu | talk 10:13, 29 October 2006 (EST)

See the discussion under Template talk:Wiki/Archive 1#Why not one of the extensions?. John 12:15, 29 October 2006 (EST)

Interwiki editing[edit]

That'd be great! Thanks! Smiddle / T·C·@ 17:44, 29 October 2006 (EST)

Ok, you can edit now.
Yeah, but what's those "local" and "trans" stuff? Smiddle / T·C·@ 18:02, 29 October 2006 (EST)
They allow you to do local and remote site transclusion, check both for maximum capability :-) You can actually suck in pages from a remote wiki into your page. See some of the examples I put on the InterWiki page. John 18:10, 29 October 2006 (EST)

Can I add links to all wikis? I just clicked a random wiki, I'll piece the description: "WikiFur is a wiki about furry community" etc. we could add interlinks to all (most) wikis and for example link "furry" and everything in the article.

Extensions to install[edit]

Since Peu wanted to allow the logos of wikis to link to the sites I thought I'd do that because I already know the only ways images can be made into links on media wiki.

Firstly, I don't know if it will work in the template but this extension may let people create linked images at will if you want it.

But this is the best way I can think of to make it work. I basically created a simple extension that is similar to the Fullurl and Localurl functions already built into MediaWiki. They are Fullimage and Localimage, they basicly instead of doing links to articles they make external links to local images so that they can be embedded in a method that allows for linking.

Here's the code (Just place it in extensions/FullLocalImage.php and include it int LocalSettings.php)

 * @Extension Full/Local Image
 * @Author Daniel Friesen( Aka: Dantman )
 * @Description Creates 2 parserfunctions. Localimage and Fullimage, they work similar
 *      to the Localurl and Fullurl functions except they return the path to a image not a article.

$wgExtensionFunctions[] = 'wfFLImage';
$wgExtensionCredits['parserhook'][] = array(
	'name' => 'Full/Local Image',
	'author' => 'Daniel Friesen( Aka: Dantman )'

function wfFLImage() {
	global $wgParser;
	$wgParser->setFunctionHook( 'Localimage', array( wgFLImageFuncts, 'Localimage' ), SFH_NO_HASH );
	$wgParser->setFunctionHook( 'Fullimage', array( wgFLImageFuncts, 'Fullimage' ), SFH_NO_HASH );

class wgFLImageFuncts {
	function Localimage ( &$parser, $name = '', $arg = null ) {
		return wfImageDir( $name ) . '/' . ucfirst( $name );
	function Fullimage ( &$parser, $name = '', $arg = null ) {
		global $wgServer;
		return $wgServer . wfImageDir( $name ) . '/' . ucfirst( $name );

It would be much apreciated, If you can get that I can get some stuff working in Template:Wiki/3 that couldn't before. Dantman 19:50, 29 October 2006 (EST)

This file seems to be missing the ending PHP tag and may be missing more than that, can you complete the listing??? Many thanks. John 20:19, 29 October 2006 (EST)
Sorry about that, I must have slipped when I copied it from my local installation. But that's all the code there is, the code works fine. I just don't have uploads on my testing because it's a local installation on my XP Home computer meaning I can't work permissions. But I did some alternative testing to it. My guess from looking at other wikis and the MediaWiki code is that MediaWiki capitalizes the first letter of every file it uploads automaticly. So I have the ucfirst function there. From everything I've tested this should work fine. The worst that could happen is that I miscalculated something on how the system works, and some of the Places where {{fullimage:Something.png}} is used create incorrect urls that I'll half to find a way to fix. But for all purposes it should work now. wfImageDir is a system function that I used to grab the directory, so that should compensate for any mistake other than how files are capitalized. I added the end tag just for reassurance. Dantman 04:07, 30 October 2006 (EST)
I loaded the extension using
per your instructions (other options would be "Require" or "Require_Once") and it did not cause the wiki to fail :-) so I assume it is functional. Please check it out and let me know if it is functional. I would appreciate it if you would start a page called "FullLocalImage Extension" and document the uses, syntax and source code for the extension. Many thanks! John 11:41, 31 October 2006 (EST)
I looked. Unofortunatly it trys to work. But it's using a filepath instead of a urlpath (A server may use /home/~user/www/public_html/ as the filepath of it's server, and the local urlpath to that would just be /) So the links aren't working right. I'll try to find out what I can do to fix that. I added the full information on Meta, and just created that page you wanted with information leading to there. I put a slightly different version on meta, the only difference is I added the 'url' element to the information array so when you go to Special:Version if you change to the one on meta right now, it still won't work, but the url there will lead back to that page for information. Dantman 20:06, 31 October 2006 (EST)
Ok, I updated the code at Meta. There are no errors so it still won't break the site. The URL element is in so that people can reach the documentation either by the article you requested or by using the link given on Special:Version. This Time I think I found the correct methods for it from the documentation. It uses predefined methods so it should work. Dantman 20:37, 31 October 2006 (EST)
Yup double checked. 1.6.8's code has those same methods. So if something does go wrong the only glitch that could come out should be it for some reason giving the fullurl making localurl give a fullurl, and fullurl give a fullurl with the before it. Dantman 20:40, 31 October 2006 (EST)

Wiki analytics[edit]

Hello, my name is Lars Sobanski, i´m writing my Diploma Thesis about wikis. So, i do a analythics of wikis. I also have some qustions which normaly can not be answerd throw the wiki itself, may you please answer me some?

  1. What is the story of founding this wiki?
  2. Has there been a community before?
  3. What public realation measures has been done to promote the wiki?
  4. Can Users become admin?

Thank you in advance, Lars Sobanski (excuse me for my english, i hope you understand what i want know?! i´m german antive...)

Lars, brief history of WikiIndex: was created by Ray King and John Stanton in June 2005 as a way to track the wiki sites they thought had value for them. At the WikiSym conference in San Diego in October 2005 Ray and John joined forces with Mark Dilley who had a much more comprehensive wiki list called SwitchWiki and took the decision to join the two efforts together. The resulting wiki was to be more comprehensive and take full advantage of wiki technology. John converted and expanded the data from both sites and built out the original set of 1000 wikis in January of 2006. Throughout 2006 a community formed around WikiIndex and greatly expanded the number of wikis and improved the original format. By November 2006 the article count was at 3,195 and WikiIndex had become the authoritative source for information about Wiki sites.
WikiIndex dedicated volunteers include the following who have sysop status: Ray King, Mark Dilley, John Stanton, Ted Ernst, David Cary, Mattis Manzel and Sean Fennel. Many, many others have contributed significantly to WikiIndex in all kinds of capacities.

A previous community existed for SwitchWiki, Mark Dilley's creation.
We did do some some promotion at various events including Recent Changes Camp. We did caricatures of participants, gave out stickers and other promotional items.
Users are invided to become admins based on participation and contributions we started with 3 admins and we now have 7.
John 11:29, 14 November 2006 (EST)

Namespace creation[edit]

Read my comments here. I don't know how to install it, but it could be useful. (now I know I'd put it on talk:main page but anyway) Smiddle / T·C·@ 10:11, 15 November 2006 (EST)

Here I found something (maybe) Help:Namespace manager, download Smiddle / T·C·@ 14:08, 17 November 2006 (EST)
Not sure why your talk page is semi-protected. In any case, the namespace editor was something included in MW1.6-wikidata which never made it into the main code (which currently would be MW1.9-alpha). There is a kludge version which operates as a Special:Interwiki-lookalike extension, editing a namespace list. The original was somewhat more ambitious in scope. --Carlb 13:22, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Problems with ParserFunctions[edit]

I tried to use #expr in the Sandbox-Page (Permalink), but it did nothing but errors. How can we get it to function? (it's for WikiIndex:WikiProject - By Size: if #expr does it's job, we can enter and display page count numbers and auto-categorize the wiki page (by comparison with size class limits)) --Peu | talk 13:37, 22 November 2006 (EST)

We should do further discussion on Help:Parser functions or its talk page. --Peu | talk 16:33, 22 November 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the upgrade! --Peu | talk 13:10, 19 December 2006 (PST)

Domain redirect[edit]

.com isn't redirecting me to .org. seems to think it was bought by 1 & 1 hosting. — User:Sean Fennel@ 00:02, 18 December 2006 (PST)

Domain Tools is always slow to pick up changes, the difficulty is that Ray actually owns both the names and he has to make the changes on GoDaddy. We had already initiated the change when I discovered that the logo images weren't working properly so we reversed the change and that's when the trouble began. Ray and I are getting together today at noon and we should be able to get it squared away then. John 08:26, 18 December 2006 (PST)

spam filter[edit]

please see WikiIndex talk:Community talk#Spam protection filter blocks normal editing TedErnst | talk 15:37, 27 December 2006 (PST)

&-character not working in page titles[edit]

please see Talk:National Disaster Animal Relief Mutante 07:57, 3 January 2007 (PST)


I'm getting the page a lot: Doesn't seem consistent when it shows up. Sometimes going back and clicking the orginal link again seems to work, other times not. TedErnst | talk 11:56, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Hmmm... I haven't noticed errors here but it does seem very slow to me. My provider, Comcast, seems to be having problems generally since the first of the year and everything seems slow. How is the speed on your end??? John 12:49, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Yes, very slow as well. The errors are awful. Maybe 10% or more of the RC links I clicked gave me the error. TedErnst | talk 13:56, 7 January 2007 (PST)

I started a ticket with the new hoster, DreamHost, and if we can't get it resolved I'll move it to another hoster. John 15:20, 7 January 2007 (PST)
Dream Host is offloading a bunch of stuff off our server today to free up some capacity. I can see some improvement already. They say the move should be complete by midnight tonight PST so give it a whirl tomorrow and let me know how it works. If this doesn't do the trick they say they will move us to an underutilized server. John 18:36, 9 January 2007 (PST)
PS Don't forget to change your bookmarks to (BTW I'm on jury duty tomorrow so I'll be off line during the day) John 18:39, 9 January 2007 (PST)


Great news John!! ;-) I asked RayKing to make the change today, and he told me it looked like it was working already, I thought, hey John must have done that!! You ROCK!! Best, MarkDilley

Input Box and Templates[edit]

I also am looking for a new page input system for my plant photos project. It looks like to do what you are with the individual listed wiki pages, you are using a combination of the input box with a couple templates. Is this the main jist of it?

your system, adapted a bit, looks like it would be very convenient for adding a page with info and image for each plant listed. Could you give me a little advice on how to start in on setting that up. I am installed at --PlantPhotos 15:21, 27 January 2007 (PST)


I see the info for adding Google AdSense by editing the Monobook.php. Is this what you are doing here? Also the info here: Meta-Wiki:Google Ads Monobook says it is for version 1.5.6. Just wondering if this is what you are using, will it work, or where else I should look for info. I am using version:

MediaWiki: 1.8.2 PHP: 5.1.2 (cgi-fcgi) MySQL: 5.0.24a-standard-log at --PlantPhotos 14:28, 28 January 2007 (PST)

Long, annoying URL[edit]

Why is there a index.php?title= in the URL? How did it get there? – Smiddle/TC 10:21, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Problems with the rewrite functions in .htaccess made some pages inaccessable, see Community portal. If we can restore the short URLs we will, if not we will have to keep the standard long, ugly MediaWiki URLs. John 10:52, 9 February 2007 (PST)
Oh. Also, I added a redirect button to the toolbar which worked fine for a while, but for now it's just, for some reason, gone. – Smiddle/TC 02:53, 10 February 2007 (PST)

PrettyURL problem[edit]

Sorry to be a pest about this, but I feel the need to emphasize that at the moment this little tech glitch is a quite serious PR issue: The top google link for WikiIndex is broken by this, and gives the naive user the impression that the site is down! Can we at least make the 404 Not Found error auto redirect to a working homepage, or even just change the contents of it to include a working link to the homepage?-- 06:55, 15 February 2007 (PST)

I agree with you totally but I have been unable to find a solution to the problem if you have one I would love to hear about it! You can see the problem on a new test wiki I have set up at Glad for any help anyone can provide. John 08:12, 15 February 2007 (PST)
I did put up a page for the 404 errors John 10:56, 15 February 2007 (PST)
I implemented an automatic redirect that converts the short URL to the long URL as a workaround, code below. John 15:25, 15 February 2007 (PST)
$FullURL = "" . substr($_SERVER[SCRIPT_URL], 1);
header( 'Location: ' . $FullURL ) ;

It works! Sounds like you aren't so happy with this solution, but it seems to do the job for now -- Thanks!!-- 06:00, 16 February 2007 (PST)

Oops -- suddenly it is back to Not Working!-- 17:27, 23 February 2007 (PST)
We had a system outage that forced us to completely rebuild WikiIndex, see Community portal. I check to see what went wrong with the script. John 19:37, 23 February 2007 (PST)
Should be working now, thanks for alerting me! John 19:53, 23 February 2007 (PST)

open id[edit]

Can we (I mean you, actually. :-) ) make this happen? WikiIndex talk:Community talk#OpenID - thanks! TedErnst | talk 23:26, 12 February 2007 (PST)

Yeah, that's part of what I wanted to talk you and Mark about but I'm going to go ahead and do it as soon as I get the ugly URL problem taken care of John 09:30, 13 February 2007 (PST)

talk page now unprotected[edit]

Just letting you know. Also, when we protect it again in case of spam, let's remember to put a notice at the top that says a person has to log in to edit it. TedErnst | talk 15:58, 14 February 2007 (PST)

Dynamic Page List[edit]

The WikiIndex website is using a rather outdated version of a MediaWiki extension named DynamicPageList (DPL). There is a new version with plenty of improved functionality available. Perhaps you may want to have a look? --Algorithmix 08:22, 20 February 2007 (PST)

"There are 200 articles in this category."[edit]

When I go to Category:All, I see this message. I checked the system messages, but ???. By the way: if we don't really need the DPL extension (I don't know if) we should consider to cancel it, pages that contain DPL should not be cached, you have to purge manually. I deleted it from "my own" wiki some time ago, adapting the "WikiIndex way" of using categories. --Wolf | talk 14:42, 20 February 2007 (PST)

I will update the DPL to the latest version this week. It is useful for some people to gather specialized info about WikiIndex. John 19:53, 20 February 2007 (PST)
Ok, but what about the erroneous "200 articles"? --Wolf | talk 07:31, 21 February 2007 (PST)
The "Category:All" category page has a "next 200" and a "previous 200" link to allow you to page through All of the wikis on this site, 200 at a time. It is not the total count of wikis. I'm glad you mentioned that because I need to set that page size higher, probably at 2000 or so, I'll take care of that sometime today. John 08:42, 21 February 2007 (PST)
Changed to 2000 categories per page. John 08:50, 21 February 2007 (PST)
2000 is good for the category:All, maybe not soo good for other categories, for instance Category:WikiLogo, but the main misbehavior is the obviously wrong "There are X articles in this category." --Wolf | talk 13:10, 21 February 2007 (PST)
I changed the system message to read "There are nnnn articles on this category page." to make it a bit cleared to all. John 13:39, 21 February 2007 (PST)
Ok, I think it's a MediaWiki issue, I can read on the english wikipedia "There are $1 files in this section of this category." --Wolf | talk 13:50, 21 February 2007 (PST)
Definitely is a MediaWiki issue, all we can do is explain it better:-) John 14:14, 21 February 2007 (PST)

fault-tolerant wiki[edit]

Dear John, I was sad when WikiIndex went offline, like too many other wiki. I am glad you brought it back online. I've been thinking about setting up a "fault-tolerant wiki". I suspect you are now more receptive to such ideas :-).

The idea of making a wiki more fault-tolerant seems so obvious to me that I'm surprised every wiki isn't already fault-tolerant. But I hope to build one soon. Feel free to make suggestions and give advice. --DavidCary 01:54, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

I love the idea of a fault-tolerant wiki, count me in! John 13:35, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

Block IP[edit]

Hi there John, as you seem to be a Sysop, it is probably worth blocking the IP for spam infractions. -- Carl McBride 10:25, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

Thanks Karl, Peu got him, it's not normally too useful to block IPs because they switch them so easily but we have just implemented a Captcha to slow them down a bit :-) John 14:24, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

what about MediaWiki 1.11 ?[edit]

Hi John again, our company wiki has been updated some days ago and I read carefully the MediaWiki release notes 1.10->1.11 The problem with dark thumbnail pictures (#thumbnail problem) (see for instance File:AK VORRAT.png in Category:WikiLogo) has gone. Also the good page count raised from about 750 to about 1000. The only problems that occured was with DPL (our DPL-extension was too old). Should we update? Best regards --Wolf | talk 08:20, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

What do you think about external wikiindex entry points?[edit]

Hi John, please have a look on Proposal:WikiIndex Pages on indexed Wikis --Wolf | talk 07:03, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

qwepoksdf - what does this mean?[edit]

Hi John, (so many questions now), what is the sense behind this junk edits all over the wiki, have you any idea? Best regards --Wolf | talk 03:04, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

Spoke with some other wiki folks at Wiki Wednesday who are experiencing the same attack & nobody seem to know, it is annoying. John 10:18, 5 October 2007 (EDT)
See my recent edit of WikiIndex talk:RecentChanges patrol. These are likely spammers testing the terrain before putting in real spam. I know it's against our policy, but may I suggest banning their IPs? It is al least moderately effective, which is better than nothing. -- Felix Pleşoianu | talk 04:37, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
I block them for a period that depends on activity. Long distances of junk insertion leads to long block times:
  • 1 junk edit → 1 day
  • 1 junk edits only today → 3 days
  • 1 junk edits since 1 month → 3 months
I think it's a good idea - if they come back after unblocking, I can use the Block Log to find out how long they should be blocked.
But, do we do the right, are these IPs ony used by spamming bots? --Wolf | talk 06:04, 6 October 2007 (EDT)(sorry forgot)
It's definitely possible that somebody's computer is running a bot without their knowledge, or that a network with a shared IP has just one compromised computer in it. But in this case, the owners of said computer/network are at least partly responsible. Let them clean up their machines and then tell us. -- Felix Pleşoianu | talk 14:02, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
I have made a list of my blocked IPs (maybe I should expand it to all blocked IPs), it will possibly better to collect our knoledge there (would do you think about a "WikiProject:Junking bots"?). I think, we should make it visible to our anonymous users that some IPs are blocked. We should further more rethink the blocking depth: allow starting an account or not and the blocking duration. If we work seriously on this, I would say, we can keep wikiindex rather clean. --Wolf | talk 14:19, 6 October 2007 (EDT)

How do I mark pages as patrolled?[edit]

Hi John, I cannot remove the exclamation marks, a know this link "mark as patrolled", but I cannot find it anymore ?? --Wolf | talk 06:42, 6 October 2007 (EDT)

Your sysop status has not changed Wolf, you should be able to patrol as always John 22:49, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

plus symbols in page names[edit]

Hi again John, do you control the rewrite rules for the Wikiindex-URLs? Maybe there is something broken (or in LocalSettings.php?). I know several Wikis that accept such page names. I need it fur UTC-Distance categorization. I would be happy if that could be brought to work. Thanks in advance --Wolf | talk 12:14, 6 October 2007 (EDT)

please look at Category:time zone UTC+2 (← doesn't work) in Category:Time zone distances --Wolf | talk 17:17, 8 October 2007 (EDT) (tippo corrected), please have a look on it, John --Wolf | talk 16:36, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
This is a continuing problem with the pretty URL code in .htaccess, almost every mediawiki revision introduces some new problem with pretty url code. It takes a lot of study and trial and error on my part to debug the rewrite code because I am not very good at it :-) I'll get on it next week, any help much appreciated! John 22:45, 11 October 2007 (EDT)


Hi John, There's a new template:sysop that can be used to tag users, which are currently active sysops. I think this will be good, because only sysops have the right to block/unblock and if someone feels blocked he needs help. --Wolf | talk 06:43, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Looks good! John 09:15, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
Thank you for using the tag. Is there a page on wikiindex, where a user can address all admins, in case he or she needs help urgently? Should we make the talk page of category:Active administrators of this wiki to that place? --Wolf | talk 16:04, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Captcha for ALL anon edits[edit]

Hi John, this one: would you please have a look on this, it's very boring and depressing to revert gibberish all the time. We should - for now - activate the Captcha for all anonymous editors. --Wolf | talk 19:40, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

Done! Check it out, might have some unintended consequences. See Community portal#Growing Pains John 21:28, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

Problem with Captcha[edit]

Hi John, what do you think about this?: Talk:Welcome#Captcha --Wolf | talk 03:30, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Hi John, checking this very question :-) MarkDilley
Let me know what you find Mark, thanks John 00:05, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Problem trying to contact you[edit]

Dear Mr Stanton, I am trying to contact you, would you please place an email where you can be reached? Your page in AboutUS returned my email to you with User unknown Giving up. Thank you very much. GN

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[9:57pm] Warpath: ahh get your wikis spam blacklist updated pliz
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Best, MarkDilley

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AdvenTiki - please check out and help if you can

Hi, I'm responsible for AdvenTiki and tried to update all info as well as I could. If something is still lacking, I'll be happy to help. Chris


User:Deborah has vandalized the Conservapedia article. Proxima Centauri 17:08, 30 July 2008 (EDT)


Snuffleupagus is a troll. He hasn’t been here since August 5th. I suggest keeping an eye on him if he returns. Proxima Centauri 07:08, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

He's returned. He's trolling. An administrator should delete the Sandbox and oversight it as Snuffleupagus put personal information there.

As far as I can tell this user has not made one useful contribution to the Wiki. If I were a sysop here I would consider blocking him. Proxima Centauri 06:51, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

Give me sysop buttons and I'll deal with these trolls that have turned up in recent changes. Proxima Centauri 17:03, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

When it says number of pages on the size template, does it mean number of articles[edit]

Or does it include the talk pages, templates, images, e.t.c? P.S can you reply on my talk page --Semajdraehs 07:58, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

See WikiIndex:WikiProject - By Size. --DavidCary 14:31, 22 October 2008 (EDT)


Hi John. A few months late, I noticed your note on the Community portal about DPL. We had similar problems with the scalability of that feature at Wikia. One thing we found helped a lot was to have a specific DPL server, so that slow queries only affect other DPL queries rather than affecting the whole site. Removing DPL from the most popular pages such as the home page can make a huge difference, and having social rules about using simpler queries such as basic category intersections rather than anything complex can help to limit use to levels the site can cope with. I hope you're able to revive it - it was a useful feature here. Angela 15:21, 17 October 2008 (EDT)


Since you are a Developer, sure you can contribute to too. Thanks


Thanks for making Elassint aned me sysops. What work do sysops do here? Proxima Centauri 10:47, 6 November 2008 (EST)

The Conservapedia RationalWiki war[edit]

There has been discussion about removing a great deal of criticism from the Conservapedia article. See Lengthy criticisms. A great deal of material was removed. Then there was a problem because the RationalWiki article linked to criticism that no longer existed. I therefore put the criticism of Conservapedia into a new article, The Conservapedia RationalWiki war and linked it to both the Conservapedia and RationalWiki articles. If that's still not acceptable I can probably get Rationalwiki to host it and put it into an external link. Proxima Centauri 13:25, 15 November 2008 (EST)

Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war is getting quite long. Proxima Centauri 02:37, 16 November 2008 (EST)

Can you help?[edit]

Someone has a problem. I don't know what to do. Proxima Centauri 09:45, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Addition of a wikiFactor?[edit]

Dear John Stanton, I have just started the page Proposal:wikiFactor, and it would be wonderful if you would take a look. All the best -- Carl McBride (talk) 05:53, 4 March 2009 (EST)


Hi John, I reverted the wikiFactor to 1. I'm sorry for that, I don't want to begin a war concerning this, I see that the factor is 1.965 - thats very close to 2. Maybe the factor of popular pages grows automatically if some pages make a article of the day carousel. I hope you understand my kind intention - my English isn't so good. :-) Greetings from Berlin --Wolf | talk 03:25, 1 April 2009 (EDT)


Can I be an administrator? I did many constructive edit.Jonah Musto 21:08, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

I think, you should spend a few days longer on WikiIndex and create a User page and feed your countributions list a little - maybe you'll be surprised to be an admin some day (without asking for that). Greetings --Wolf | talk 04:38, 23 July 2009 (EDT)
And, please, add the source to the images you uploaded. Even if they are public domain it's nice to have the author mentioned. --Wolf | talk 04:44, 23 July 2009 (EDT)
He's blocked because he's been doing things like asking for money, see User talk:Jonah Musto. Proxima Centauri 23:23, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Dispute Resolution[edit]

Hey John, wanted to see if you were interested in dispute resolution, my suggestion is here ~~ MarkDilley

If you are gonna be around or available in some way, I (and probably others) would appreciate if you could give us your perception of the policy development page that I created to try to help editors and sysops, to anticipate what to expect from the administration. Lumenos 11:53, 6 September 2009 (EDT)


Palaeos wiki is down and there is a placeholderin its place. Will Palaeos be back? Proxima Centauri 13:56, 19 September 2009 (EDT)

It's down yet again. Proxima Centauri 09:55, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
It's still down a day later, what's wrong? Proxima Centauri 00:31, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
I've amended the Palaeos article to say it's offline. Proxima Centauri 08:59, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

There were problems here, some were genuine mistakes I made but I could have explained other problems that MarkDilley had with me. I was given a chance to explain but frankly I decided that I have too many administrative duties on too many wikis. Mark Dilley would never have full confidence in me again and I would never have full confidence in the absentee owner either. Therefore I decided to stay on wikis where the others trust me and not to spend several hours explaining controversial actions that I’d done and that Mark Dilley would have probably understood if he spent more time here. Proxima Centauri 12:00, 11 February 2010 (EST)

Looking for John Stanton of Maywood.

Problems with accounts[edit]

This wiki is not managed very well, isn't it? Do you know about that texvc error when signing up, and that the WikiIndex doesn't send any eMail, so no one can get informed about changes? --Bachsau 07:18, 26 June 2012 (PDT)